Should the tape of Steve Irwin\'s death be released to the news media?
 

I have to admit to a sick fascination and a desire to see the film of the incident. I understand that the public has no "right" to see the tape, and that the owners of the tape should be able to do whatever they want with it, and that the family has the right to request they not distribute it.

The question is, am I the only sick [censored] that wants to see it, and do you think it will make its way out regardless of what the decision is?

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Yeah, we really needed a fourth dead croc dude thread...

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I'm fairly certain that the video tape of you being killed should be released on the internet.

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yes I want to see it, no I don't really think it should be released.

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I'm fairly certain that the video tape of you being killed should be released on the internet.

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i always wondered why this was a big deal to people or their familys. i wouldn't care if the video of me being killed was on the internet, and don't know why other people would care.

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Didn't this subject come up with him before? I thought he'd always said he wants it to be shown.

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I'm fairly certain that the video tape of you being killed should be released on the internet.

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i always wondered why this was a big deal to people or their familys. i wouldn't care if the video of me being killed was on the internet, and don't know why other people would care.

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It's not something you can defend logically, but I can certainly understand the idea of not wanting the grisly death of a loved one to become what is basically entertainment.

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Didn't this subject come up with him before? I thought he'd always said he wants it to be shown.

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Really? Where'd this info come from? An interview? His show?

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Sure why not...and while we're at we should release all the tapes from killers and rapists...hey child molesters too...we wouldn't Borodog to miss out on anything.

Lets release it so his daughter, and I'm sure she'll find out that the only reason he was filming stingrays is so the footage could be used for her tv show, can watch her father die.

As someone who's seen a person get speared..albeit thru the leg... with a stingray barb...your wont see anything. It moves incredibly quick and then is gone...there is hardly any blood or anything. So basically the only reason you'd want to watch it is to get to see a person die--which isn't my cup of tea but I'm sure it is for a large # of the losers who frequent OOT.

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I'm fairly certain that the video tape of you being killed should be released on the internet.

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i always wondered why this was a big deal to people or their familys. i wouldn't care if the video of me being killed was on the internet, and don't know why other people would care.

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It's not something you can defend logically, but I can certainly understand the idea of not wanting the grisly death of a loved one to become what is basically entertainment.

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yea i guess its more a psychology thing, but i just don't think that many people will actually be "entertained". people are just interetested to see it for themselves instead of hearing about it. i guess if its something really embarassing like it seems to be (him being horny and drunk with the stringray), thats something else too.

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why start a new thread for something this dumb?

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It because loved ones don't want to see and hear about the youtube video of their father/mother/brother etc being killed.

Its called common decency...some people have it-like the documentary filmmakers who turned their cameras away from from the people who had been soaked with jetfuel and were burning alive just inside the lobby of WTC1-and some people don't.

More and more in todays society it seems like there is a growing lack of it.

But morons like you still wanna know or see what it looks like so its confusing to you why people have a problem with it...cuz I mean gosh--if u were raped and murdred...you'd have no problem with the video of your death being on the internet...so everyone should just get with the program and put this kind of [censored] on youtube.

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Sure why not...and while we're at we should release all the tapes from killers and rapists...hey child molesters too...we wouldn't Borodog to miss out on anything.

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Thanks for the insinuation. Because watching a person get stung by a stingray is exactly analogous to watching rapists and child molestors at work.

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Lets release it so his daughter, and I'm sure she'll find out that the only reason he was filming stingrays is so the footage could be used for her tv show, can watch her father die.

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Uh . . . what?

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As someone who's seen a person get speared..albeit thru the leg... with a stingray barb...your wont see anything. It moves incredibly quick and then is gone...there is hardly any blood or anything. So basically the only reason you'd want to watch it is to get to see a person die--which isn't my cup of tea but I'm sure it is for a large # of the losers who frequent OOT.

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Human beings are fascinated by death. You've never watched the Zapruder film? You clicked away every time CNN showed Dale Earnhardt's car hit the wall?

The fact that there's no blood or gore makes me more inclined to watch, not less. If he'd been torn apart by a shark, I'd be much less interested in seeing it. I'm curious. How big was the ray? How fast was the strike? Did he see it coming? What must he have been thinking in the immediate aftermath? If you don't wonder these things or things like them, you seem pretty inhuman to me.

For the record, I'm sure there are plenty of gorey videos of people getting killed on the internet, and I have no desire to watch them. But I would watch this one. If that makes me a sick [censored], so be it.

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Borodog..your entire post just says...I want to see a person die..cuz I think it would be really cool to watch what happens to them before and right as their dying.

Go back to watching yr kiddie porn

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Borodog..your entire post just says...I want to see a person die..cuz I think it would be really cool to watch what happens to them before and right as their dying.

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Sure. Go with that. I said it would be "cool." Right.

I'll ask you the same question. You click away everytime a documentary shows the Zapruder film?

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I'm usualy not into watching people die, but for some reason I do want to see this. I think I want to see his reaction to getting stung more then anything.

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Borodog..your entire post just says...I want to see a person die..cuz I think it would be really cool to watch what happens to them before and right as their dying.

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Sure. Go with that. I said it would be "cool." Right.

I'll ask you the same question. You click away everytime a documentary shows the Zapruder film?

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its been ages but i vaguely remember seeing it in JFK...but yes I tend to avoid the voyerstic versions of 9/11 coverage etc.

I avoided nick berg getting his head chopped off etc.
If im watching a nature show and all of a sudden someone gets attacked that one thing.

But if they say hey...we have a video coming up where u get to watch somebody gets stabbed in the heart and we focus on them as they are dying...stay tuned!

I change the channel.
I don't get off on that kind of [censored]....you obviously do.

you went to the trouble of making a post about wanting to watch the video of Steve Irwin dying..so you obviously think it would be really interesting and cool to watch.

Go watch the Nick Berg video instead cuz, hate to burst your bubble, I dont ever see this getting released...you know...cuz he like has to kids under the age of 10 and stuff--yeah i know...just tell em to change the channel right?

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Didn't this subject come up with him before? I thought he'd always said he wants it to be shown.

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I also remember reading this somewhere.

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From reading the other threads, a lot of people are up in arms that video of Steve Irwin's life was released to the media.

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Borodog..your entire post just says...I want to see a person die..cuz I think it would be really cool to watch what happens to them before and right as their dying.

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Sure. Go with that. I said it would be "cool." Right.

I'll ask you the same question. You click away everytime a documentary shows the Zapruder film?

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its been ages but i vaguely remember seeing it in JFK...but yes I tend to avoid the voyerstic versions of 9/11 coverage etc.

I avoided nick berg getting his head chopped off etc.

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Me too. I have never watched it and have no interest.

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If im watching a nature show and all of a sudden someone gets attacked that one thing.

But if they say hey...we have a video coming up where u get to watch somebody gets stabbed in the heart and we focus on them as they are dying...stay tuned!

I change the channel.
I don't get off on that kind of [censored]....you obviously do.

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You're a jackass if you can't understand the difference between having an interest in death and "getting off on it."

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you went to the trouble of making a post about wanting to watch the video of Steve Irwin dying..so you obviously think it would be really interesting and cool to watch.

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Stop projecting. If I watch a documentary on the Holocaust it doesn't mean I think it's "cool."

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Go watch the Nick Berg video instead cuz, hate to

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I have zero interest in watching it.

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burst your bubble, I dont ever see this getting released...you know...cuz he like has to kids under the age of 10 and stuff--yeah i know...just tell em to change the channel right?

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If it's never released that's fine. Probably certain to be better for the family.

But if it's released, I'll watch it.

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How could this possibly NOT hit the internet?

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Wanting to watch Steven Irwin be killed is no different than wanting to watch Nick Berg be killed or a video of a kid being killed.

Your interested in wanting to watch someone die, how they react as their dying etc...no matter how u try to slice it...thats what u want to see.

Trying to say watching Irwin's death is different than Nick Bergs is just BS.
And I totally believe based on your interest in seeing SI die that you never got around to watching Nick Berg being killed.

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I'm a member of the "news media" and I will throw up if this video hits any air of a legitimate broadcast.

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Wanting to watch Steven Irwin be killed is no different than wanting to watch Nick Berg be killed or a video of a kid being killed.

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This is [censored] and you know it. There is a world of difference between a guy doing what he loved and being quickly struck by something he never saw coming, by all accounts without blood, and a guy screaming and crying getting his head cut off, knowing that its coming. If you think the two are equivalent there is something seriously wrong with you.

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Your interested in wanting to watch someone die, how they react as their dying etc...no matter how u try to slice it...thats what u want to see.

Trying to say watching Irwin's death is different than Nick Bergs is just BS.

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You're insane. One guy is accidentally killed by wildlife doing what he loved, the other guy is murdered by slow decapitation.

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And I totally believe based on your interest in seeing SI die that you never got around to watching Nick Berg being killed.

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I couldn't care less what you "totally believe", because you are a total idiot. You overreacted and are now trying to rationalize. Apparently 2/3 of people would watch the video, and I would wager it's not because they would think it would be "cool" or they'd "get off on it."

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CDS,

I like you as a poster, but you are coming off as a complete tool in this thread.

As for the OP
I am apathetic about watching it.
I think it is up to the family whether or not it gets released.Or if Steve Irwin actually said what some else said earlier in an interview.
I think it will end up getting released.

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Wanting to watch Steven Irwin be killed is no different than wanting to watch Nick Berg be killed or a video of a kid being killed.

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Of course there is. A huge difference.

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CDS,

I like you as a poster, but you are coming off as a complete tool in this thread.



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Wanting to watch Steven Irwin be killed is no different than wanting to watch Nick Berg be killed or a video of a kid being killed.

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Of course there is. A huge difference.

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Very big difference between seing SI getting stung by and sting ray and see a man knowing he's going to die and then get his head cut off.

I've never seen the nick berg video and I dont plan on watching it. If the SI video came out I'd watch it right away and I dont think I'd feel bad about it.

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Yea, I never watch really fcked up shi.t and people dying, but I would watch steve irwin getting stung by a stingray.

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I think the thrill of his shows was knowing that he was risking his life, but since it's on TV, he isn't going to die, since they wouldn't just show that on the discovery channel. On this particular documentary, I don't think they should show it - 1) for his family's sake and 2) I really don't want to see a man die.

That said, if there is footage, and it wasn't immediately destroyed, it will be hard for it NOT to show up on the internet somehow. The news media and other outlets will not show it (I hope). Tabloids may or may not...I don't know.

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As someone who's seen a person get speared..albeit thru the leg... with a stingray barb...your wont see anything. It moves incredibly quick and then is gone...there is hardly any blood or anything. So basically the only reason you'd want to watch it is to get to see a person die--which isn't my cup of tea but I'm sure it is for a large # of the losers who frequent OOT.

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Human beings are fascinated by death. You've never watched the Zapruder film? You clicked away every time CNN showed Dale Earnhardt's car hit the wall?

The fact that there's no blood or gore makes me more inclined to watch, not less. If he'd been torn apart by a shark, I'd be much less interested in seeing it. I'm curious. How big was the ray? How fast was the strike? Did he see it coming? What must he have been thinking in the immediate aftermath? If you don't wonder these things or things like them, you seem pretty inhuman to me.

For the record, I'm sure there are plenty of gorey videos of people getting killed on the internet, and I have no desire to watch them. But I would watch this one. If that makes me a sick [censored], so be it.

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Pudge..you can't say watching one person dying is differrent than another simply because one was an accident and another wasn't.

To want to watch a video to see how a person reacted as their being killed or what might be going thru the their head/facial reaction etc as they are being stabbed is the same as wanting to watch a Nick Berg video, a person being eaten by a shark, a public execution, etc etc

Your watching because you want to see the curcumstances of a persons death. It doesn't matter how or why someone dies...its the fact that you want a video to be shown so you can see the person die..and the manner in which they died.

I equate this as no different than the people who got upset with W. Herzog for not including the audio of Treadwell being eaten alive by the bear in Grizzly Man.

Pudge if you are in the camp that you'd like to see the video released and watch it yourself than I have to say it totally changes my opinion about u.

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Is there a difference in the circumstances and method of the Nick Berg and Steve Irwin videos--of course.

Do the videos capture the same thing--yes

A person being killed--one accidentally and one on purpose...and their subsequent death from said killing.

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I think the thrill of his shows was knowing that he was risking his life, but since it's on TV, he isn't going to die, since they wouldn't just show that on the discovery channel. On this particular documentary, I don't think they should show it - 1) for his family's sake and 2) I really don't want to see a man die.

That said, if there is footage, and it wasn't immediately destroyed, it will be hard for it NOT to show up on the internet somehow. The news media and other outlets will not show it (I hope). Tabloids may or may not...I don't know.

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the footage was shot by the cameraman who was one of his good friends, so I would assume it won't leave his hands unless he chooses to let it.

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The footage has already been seized by the police.

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Based on Boro's early warning that i breezed over of "I have to admit to a sick fascination and a desire to see the film of the incident. "

I may have been a bit harsh in tone...but still think it was a dumb post to start regardless..

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Has anyone seen that Documentary titled "Bear Man" or something similar in which that guy goes to live with bears and then gets killed? Do they show the guy getting killed, and if so, would that be any different than this video.

If it did show the guy getting killed, I don't recall anyone getting up in arms about, because you know, he was just a moron who played with bears, not some famous tv guy.

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The poor guy met an early and unfortunate death from a freak accident. Both Steve Irwin and the young family he left behind deserve to be treated with respect and dignity.

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Of course they do. That was never the question. The questions were, if the video were available would you watch it, and do you think the video will be leaked.

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Has anyone seen that Documentary titled "Bear Man" or something similar in which that guy goes to live with bears and then gets killed? Do they show the guy getting killed, and if so, would that be any different than this video.

If it did show the guy getting killed, I don't recall anyone getting up in arms about, because you know, he was just a moron who played with bears, not some famous tv guy.

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there was audio of him being killed and eaten and there was a bit of hubub about the filmmaker coping out and just listening to it on camera and not letting the audience hear it for themselves.

I agreed with Herzog...the tape should be burnt.