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sirio11 08-06-2006 09:35 PM

Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
Lets unite efforts, just in case.

I had like a 85k stack (twice average) when the problems started.

Bolivia 08-06-2006 09:39 PM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
thing just shut down on me i hade $250k

timex 08-06-2006 09:39 PM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
martin__gale, 18-19k chips so I was on my way out

rwesty 08-06-2006 09:42 PM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
i was in, sent party an email demanding equity

yaaaflow 08-06-2006 09:42 PM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
I'm heading out so I won't be able to check in on this, but for me it started [censored] up right around 750 players left, I had 34k in chips, party name yaaaflow_.

sirio11 08-06-2006 09:43 PM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
[ QUOTE ]
thing just shut down on me i hade $250k

[/ QUOTE ]

When was that Ed? I mean how many players left?

Problems started at 752 players, some tables were playing and some weren't. When I could log back, I was down to about 60k. Played again and had like a 90k stack, when about 400 left, then tournament paused again and I just can't log back after that while some people told me they were still playing.

What a F* mess.

Superfluous Man 08-06-2006 09:45 PM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
I didn't get totally screwed, I think i was right around average when the [censored] hit the fan. Of course, then I went down to 4k, doubled up a bunch of times and now i have a stack.

sirio11 08-06-2006 09:48 PM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
[ QUOTE ]
and now i have a stack

[/ QUOTE ]

Mmmmm, you still playing?

diddle 08-06-2006 09:51 PM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
Anyone still playing

SharpObject 08-06-2006 09:57 PM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
I got f-ed out of a lot of chips early on when it freezed, then realized no one was there after i restarted party, then made a run for 100k, by stealing like a champ, then I won a monster pot right before the entire thing crashed (300k), i hate party poker's guts

lpblkc72 08-06-2006 10:05 PM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
The event ahould have been canceled and paid as of the 752 player mark. Everything after that was unfair. My equity actually went up after the problems, so I will be interested to see how they handle the payouts.

Superfluous Man 08-06-2006 10:10 PM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
and now i have a stack

[/ QUOTE ]

Mmmmm, you still playing?

[/ QUOTE ]
No, by the time i posted that, someone had busted at my table and it had frozen. It's been stuck like that ever since.

SmileyEH 08-06-2006 10:14 PM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
[ QUOTE ]
The event ahould have been canceled and paid as of the 752 player mark. Everything after that was unfair. My equity actually went up after the problems, so I will be interested to see how they handle the payouts.

[/ QUOTE ]

THEOSU 08-06-2006 10:36 PM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 

good at bluffing?

Clayton 08-06-2006 10:47 PM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
i'm laughing at the thought of some kid in India with an awful connection that has somehow found the greatest goldmind of a 215 dollar (or 709872435 rupee) tournament. EVERYONE ELSE IS DISCONNECTED, I NOW HAVE TWICE THE CHIPS OF 2ND, ZOMG I WILL BE THE RICHIEST KID IN MY CITY!!!! THX ANURAG.

Schaefer 08-06-2006 10:51 PM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
I had 44K with 752 left and was down to 17K by the time I got reconnected. I wrote them a long email but who knows what's going to happen. It was pretty damn ridiculous and I'm probably never going to play on Party again.

NHFunkii 08-06-2006 10:52 PM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
party is so bad I don't understand it

they are making ZILLIONS OF DOLLARS every day and yet every single week there's a new MASSIVE PROBLEM

Tornado69 08-06-2006 11:28 PM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
I was 31st in chips with 752 people to go ... had something like 93k in chips I believe. And had 144k in chips when the tournament ended with 250 peeps left so I was about 60-70th in chips. I better get a good god damn pay day :@ ...

Zinzan 08-06-2006 11:36 PM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I had 44K with 752 left and was down to 17K by the time I got reconnected. I wrote them a long email but who knows what's going to happen. It was pretty damn ridiculous and I'm probably never going to play on Party again.

[/ QUOTE ]

Similar situation... had t24K (I think avg was about t35K) w/752 left. Table said tourney was paused. After a while, someone notice other tables were semi-playing--no one was actually playing, but auto-folding to BB.

Then someone noticed that at one table, one guy was playing and stealing everyones' blinds. Then someone noticed our stacks at our table had changed dramatically--everyone blinded down, but one guy had almost quadrupled up.

At that point, I figured I had nothing to lose and closed Party and got back in. I could now play, but I was down to 14K going into the BB (3K). Went out shortly thereafter.

Maybe I should have tried to disconnect/reconnect earlier, but last year when my table paused, I disconnected immediately and couldn't reconnect. All the while, I'm reading on 2+2, "hey, tourney is no longer paused. gl, everyone." I was never able to reconnect to that tourney, which eventually was cancelled.

I used to play 98% on Party. Over the last 5/6 weeks, I've started playing about 40% on Stars and about 15% on FullTilt. I'm trying to ween myself off the fish on Party.

-Z

sirio11 08-07-2006 12:21 AM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
Has anybody received any info from Party?

ace_in_the_hole 08-07-2006 12:25 AM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
I had about 65k at 752 entrants but was up to 110k at 250 entrants when it ended. I think I am entilted to at least $2k, I will be uber pissed with anything less. I am so dissapointed in Party but I am definatley not suprised.

I am really mad that they haven't even issued an e-mail acknowledging the problem or outlining their plans for a resolution.

Superfluous Man 08-07-2006 12:26 AM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Has anybody received any info from Party?

[/ QUOTE ]
Ain't gotten [censored], bro.

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uclabruinz 08-07-2006 12:30 AM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
RIP, Party.

J/k - I basically have to play there because nobody else offers near the frequency of $100+ buyin tourneys. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Zinzan 08-07-2006 12:39 AM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
Haven't heard from them, though I did email Mike O'Malley (out of office) and support hours ago.

-Z

Superfluous Man 08-07-2006 12:42 AM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
[ QUOTE ]
RIP, Party.

J/k - I basically have to play there because nobody else offers near the frequency of $100+ buyin tourneys. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]
Yeah, was originally going to close my party account to get some akebrack. I actually redeposited some money today so I could play this particular donkament; I had a feeling about it or something. Or maybe I'm just a degenerate. Either way, it was nice to go semi-deep in something until it died. [censored] ME TO TEARS.

Hoodlum 08-07-2006 01:16 AM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
i was in too, sitting around 100k when it was down to 250 players left. thats when it stopped for me. obviously the first problems started at the bubble.

i understand that the people who busted in like 350th+ already have the money in there account, does anyone know approx how much someone with an average stack would get?

also, do you guys know when exactly it was cancelled?

Zinzan 08-07-2006 01:25 AM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
[ QUOTE ]
i was in too, sitting around 100k when it was down to 250 players left. thats when it stopped for me. obviously the first problems started at the bubble.

i understand that the people who busted in like 350th+ already have the money in there account, does anyone know approx how much someone with an average stack would get?

also, do you guys know when exactly it was cancelled?

[/ QUOTE ]

Don't know exactly when they're rolling back. I finished in the 500s and have money in my account. I could be screwed. I think they should roll back to 752. Average would get about $1450 at that point. I had about t24.5K, so should get at least $980. I probably won't get any more than the $450 or whatever they have already given me. If so, I will be very [carebear].

-Z

ace_in_the_hole 08-07-2006 01:29 AM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
So as of now, Party has just stolen about $1 Million from its players.

Zinzan 08-07-2006 01:34 AM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
[ QUOTE ]
So as of now, Party has just stolen about $1 Million from its players.

[/ QUOTE ]

I have no doubts the prize pool will be distributed in some form. But it will be absoultely unfair if only the final 350 or so players chop the remaining prize pool.

-Z

SmileyEH 08-07-2006 01:36 AM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
So as of now, Party has just stolen about $1 Million from its players.

[/ QUOTE ]

I have no doubts the prize pool will be distributed in some form. But it will be absoultely unfair if only the final 350 or so players chop the remaining prize pool.

-Z

[/ QUOTE ]

The only fair way to distribute the prize money is to give everyone the first payout level (all 752), then divide the remaining prizepool up by percentage of chips.

whether that will happen is very doubtful.

-SmileyEH

Lloyd 08-07-2006 01:38 AM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
[ QUOTE ]
So as of now, Party has just stolen about $1 Million from its players.

[/ QUOTE ]
That's obviously not true. The funds have been re-allocated among players but that's not remotely close to Party "stealing" funds. Obviously I'm not excusing them but don't say they're stealing.

ace_in_the_hole 08-07-2006 01:41 AM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
I just recived this e-mail from Party:

Dear Zach,

I am sorry you experienced problems during the Multi-Table Tournament
ID 780579.

Please stay logged in to the client and you will receive an update at
the table informing you of the tournament status.

Your patience in this matter is much appreciated.

Syeda
PartyPoker Customer Care



Hahahahahahaha, they are such a joke. I want my $$$$!!!

uclabruinz 08-07-2006 01:43 AM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
They are friggin' clueless. I got a similar email pointing out that the barely ITM payout money has already been allocated to my account, so basically I should be very happy.

Yeah, right.

Superfluous Man 08-07-2006 01:45 AM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
[ QUOTE ]
They are friggin' clueless. I got a similar email pointing out that the barely ITM payout money has already been allocated to my account, so basically I should be very happy.

Yeah, right.

[/ QUOTE ]
I was too lazy to email them. Hopefully this means I get more than $0.

La Brujita 08-07-2006 02:03 AM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
im on the phone with a party supervisor about to give him a piece of my mind.

they are telling me i was knocked out in 500 whatever before the tournament started having problems

i was close to going ballistic altough i am super polite on the phone

i luckily didnt lose my cool

but i am steamed

Zinzan 08-07-2006 02:07 AM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
[ QUOTE ]
im on the phone with a party supervisor about to give him a piece of my mind.

they are telling me i was knocked out in 500 whatever before the tournament started having problems

i was close to going ballistic altough i am super polite on the phone

i luckily didnt lose my cool

but i am steamed

[/ QUOTE ]

I have emailed them several times and told them the problems occured with 752 remaining. All of you should also email and point out that this is when the problems occurred and some players were able to steal blinds freely at that point and build huge stacks.

Geez, they can look at the server logs, or the hand histories and see that oakman42 on my table was able to steal 20 or 30 blinds in a row without opposition.

-Z

Edit - From my HH:

#Game No : 4892376228
***** Hand History for Game 4892376228 *****
NL Texas Hold'em Trny:27022446 Level:11 Blinds-Antes(1000/2000-75) - Sunday, August 06, 20:04:46 ET 2006
Table Sunday Million Guaranteed(780579) Table #46 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: oakman42 ( $20637 )
Seat 3: paveplanet ( $22866 )
Seat 5: LARGECAPS ( $22544 )
Seat 7: REWOP12 ( $7596 )
Seat 8: Toddyhack10 ( $22362 )
Seat 1: timkey31 ( $7660 )
Seat 10: glamp1 ( $89286 )
Seat 9: d4heals ( $16595 )
Seat 6: GOTTACALLME ( $21535 )
Seat 4: snowybluff ( $38514 )
Trny:27022446 Level:11
Blinds-Antes(1000/2000-75)
timkey31 posts ante [75].
oakman42 posts ante [75].
paveplanet posts ante [75].
snowybluff posts ante [75].
LARGECAPS posts ante [75].
GOTTACALLME posts ante [75].
REWOP12 posts ante [75].
Toddyhack10 posts ante [75].
d4heals posts ante [75].
glamp1 posts ante [75].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to LARGECAPS [ 6h As ]
GOTTACALLME folds.
timkey31: 3
snowybluff: HIT THE WRONG BUTTON, HAD AK - DANGIT
REWOP12 folds.
Toddyhack10 folds.
d4heals folds.
glamp1 folds.
timkey31: 2
LARGECAPS: come on, tim
timkey31 folds.
LARGECAPS: be a real gambler and go all in on this hand
glamp1: whew, had a q
timkey31: 2 more and I'll play speed poker
oakman42 folds.
paveplanet folds.
snowybluff will be using his time bank for this hand.
snowybluff folds.
LARGECAPS does not show cards.
LARGECAPS wins 3750 chips
lol

Game #4892591433 starts.
#Game No : 4892591433
Table Closed
The hand history for this hand number is not available here.Please use Instant Hand History in the "Game Rules & Options" menu to have this hand history delivered to the email address you have registered with us.

Game #4892593192 starts.

#Game No : 4892593192
***** Hand History for Game 4892593192 *****
NL Texas Hold'em Trny:27022446 Level:12 Blinds-Antes(1500/3000-75) - Sunday, August 06, 20:37:04 ET 2006
Table Sunday Million Guaranteed(780579) Table #46 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: absni ( $75154 )
Seat 2: oakman42 ( $83660 )
Seat 3: paveplanet ( $13766 )
Seat 4: snowybluff ( $27164 )
Seat 5: LARGECAPS ( $13944 )
Seat 6: GOTTACALLME ( $11185 )
Seat 7: REWOP12 ( $6438 )
Seat 8: Toddyhack10 ( $27057 )
Seat 9: d4heals ( $6245 )
Seat 10: glamp1 ( $75186 )
Trny:27022446 Level:12
Blinds-Antes(1500/3000-75)
absni posts ante [75].
oakman42 posts ante [75].
paveplanet posts ante [75].
snowybluff posts ante [75].
LARGECAPS posts ante [75].
GOTTACALLME posts ante [75].
REWOP12 posts ante [75].
Toddyhack10 posts ante [75].
d4heals posts ante [75].
glamp1 posts ante [75].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to LARGECAPS [ 4s Qs ]
oakman42 folds.
paveplanet folds.
snowybluff folds.
LARGECAPS folds.
GOTTACALLME is all-In [11110]
REWOP12 folds.
Toddyhack10 folds.
d4heals folds.
glamp1 folds.
absni calls [8110].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9c, 6h, 3s ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2s ]
** Dealing River ** [ Ks ]
absni shows [ Jc, Js ] a pair of jacks.
GOTTACALLME shows [ Tc, Kh ] a pair of kings.
GOTTACALLME wins 24470 chips from the main pot with a pair of kings.
Game #4892629760 starts.

La Brujita 08-07-2006 02:20 AM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
i talked to the party vip and had quite a nice chat.

i pointed him to this thread and laid out the entire set of concerns. equity wise it doesn't effect me all that much but its a big deal as a regular party tourney player.

bottom line: the management is looking into what to do. they realize it was a mistake not to cancel at 752, at least it was said "it could have been handled better"

the ultimate problem is the following:

if they roll it back to 752 (when they should have stopped the tourney) the people who gained chips, in whatever form after 752 but before it was canceled, will feel like they are screwed out of equity.

the question is where will the makeup come from, if it comes at all.

CharlieDontSurf 08-07-2006 02:27 AM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
party should run it from when the problem began-752...but give every player double their buy-in prior---the players who didnt get booted shouldnt have anything to gripe about given it was a software malfunction that allowed them to increase their stacks.

Zinzan 08-07-2006 02:32 AM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
[ QUOTE ]
the ultimate problem is the following:

if they roll it back to 752 (when they should have stopped the tourney) the people who gained chips, in whatever form after 752 but before it was canceled, will feel like they are screwed out of equity.

[/ QUOTE ]

A number of players were able to build up quite nicely by unfairly stealing blinds. And already big stacks were able to survive, only losing 10-15K in blinds.

The players that were hurt the most were small to below average stacks, like me. We were wiped out or pretty much crippled without an opportunity to play.

Actually, small stacks should probably get MORE than chip count. For example, when a deal is proposed at a final table, the small stacks are the ones that typically get more than chip count, because they have more to gain by playing on. They should definitely get more than standard payout for helplessly busting in the first or second pay-tier.

-Z

ace_in_the_hole 08-07-2006 02:33 AM

Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?
 
[ QUOTE ]
i talked to the party vip and had quite a nice chat.

i pointed him to this thread and laid out the entire set of concerns. equity wise it doesn't effect me all that much but its a big deal as a regular party tourney player.

bottom line: the management is looking into what to do. they realize it was a mistake not to cancel at 752, at least it was said "it could have been handled better"

the ultimate problem is the following:

if they roll it back to 752 (when they should have stopped the tourney) the people who gained chips, in whatever form after 752 but before it was canceled, will feel like they are screwed out of equity.

the question is where will the makeup come from, if it comes at all.

[/ QUOTE ]

Was there any mention on when we could expect to see money?


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