($55 turbo) Is this one of those \"push any two\" times?
 

I'm newish to SNGs, this is an any2 push right?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t400 with t25 antes (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Hero (t2795)
Button (t2550)
SB (t6820)
BB (t1335)

Preflop: Hero is in CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="red">Hero raises to t2770 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, SB calls t2570, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>

Flop: (t6040) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)


Turn: (t6040) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)


River: (t6040) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

Re: ($55 turbo) Is this one of those \"push any two\" times?
 

nope, that's a fold. BB is calling you with any two, just let SB take him out.

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Absolutely not. The nightmare scenarios resulting from a push here (SB calling and BB folding) is the reason not to do this.

You have a player with a wee more than 3xBB in the BB this hand, which means that chances are, if neither you nor button push, SB will be pushing a huge range on him, which will likely result in a showdown. Even if things do not go according to that plan and BB folds, he's still left with t910, while you're sitting with t2370 after posting. You're doing fine.

Remember: SNGs are about survival. Get in the money when there is a vulnerable player on the bubble.

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nope, that's a fold. BB is calling you with any two, just let SB take him out.

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Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. So how bad is this push? I'm trying to work on bubble play a lot.

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nope, that's a fold. BB is calling you with any two, just let SB take him out.

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Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. So how bad is this push? I'm trying to work on bubble play a lot.

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To be totally candid and serious, it's really quite bad. You are allowing the possibility of placing ITM to escape you when chances are other players at the table will take care of that for you without A) any effort on your part or B) allowing the possibility of SB sucking out on you or calling w/ a better hand.

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nope, that's a fold. BB is calling you with any two, just let SB take him out.

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Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. So how bad is this push? I'm trying to work on bubble play a lot.

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To be totally candid and serious, it's really quite bad. You are allowing the possibility of placing ITM to escape you when chances are other players at the table will take care of that for you without A) any effort on your part or B) allowing the possibility of SB sucking out on you or calling w/ a better hand.

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Hahah that's fine. I just knew I was supposed to be aggressive on the bubble. I guess you don't have to be aggressive when someone is very likely to bust soon.

Re: ($55 turbo) Is this one of those \"push any two\" times?
 

Easy fold. There is more to push/fold play than "I have x stack and my hand is y." You have to consider other things like position and stacks as well.

Re: ($55 turbo) Is this one of those \"push any two\" times?
 

Always analyze all of the stacks before you just look down at your hand/stack in relation to the blinds &amp; push away. Easy fold.

Re: ($55 turbo) Is this one of those \"push any two\" times?
 

I wouldnt fold nearly any two in that spot. Youll still have a great deal of FE against Button and SB will be (should be) pushing 100%.

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nope, that's a fold. BB is calling you with any two, just let SB take him out.

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Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. So how bad is this push? I'm trying to work on bubble play a lot.

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Here's my Favorite General Bubble guide...


To be totally candid and serious, it's really quite bad. You are allowing the possibility of placing ITM to escape you when chances are other players at the table will take care of that for you without A) any effort on your part or B) allowing the possibility of SB sucking out on you or calling w/ a better hand.

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Hahah that's fine. I just knew I was supposed to be aggressive on the bubble. I guess you don't have to be aggressive when someone is very likely to bust soon.

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Here's my favorite General Bubble Play guide.
Common Bubble Situations

Re: ($55 turbo) Is this one of those \"push any two\" times?
 

Pushing is AWFUL.

If SB or button calls you its a disaster.

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I wouldnt PUSH nearly any two in that spot. Youll still have a great deal of FE against Button and SB will be (should be) pushing 100%.

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FMP

Re: ($55 turbo) Is this one of those \"push any two\" times?
 

put this in SnGPT and it says push presto.

Thanks guys, I learned TREMENDOUSLY from this one thread. wow.

Re: ($55 turbo) Is this one of those \"push any two\" times?
 

Haven't put this in SnGPT but this seems like a pretty clear fold to me. No reason to accidentally go out 3rd and you're getting called by BB which sucks too.

Re: ($55 turbo) Is this one of those \"push any two\" times?
 

it's an .8% push. I guess in certain circumstances, you should disregard SNGPT

Re: ($55 turbo) Is this one of those \"push any two\" times?
 

A lot depends on what range you put the opponents on. If you put button on range 1, small blind on range 2 and BB on 50% it's -. Eh, really varies but I think this is a fold in general.

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it's an .8% push. I guess in certain circumstances, you should disregard SNGPT

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You might want to try to revise your calling ranges.

BTW, push any two spots generally only exist when you're in the SB. It can happen from other positions, but it's much rarer.

Re: ($55 turbo) Is this one of those \"push any two\" times?
 

Happens a lot when you're short stack and have 3xBB or less.

Re: ($55 turbo) Is this one of those \"push any two\" times?
 

Hej, I played against u today!

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put this in SnGPT and it says push presto.

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Uhm, no! You put this in SnGPT with some crazy calling ranges and then it said it was a push.

If you put in any kind of reasonable ranges this will be -EV.

Try 22% for BB, 12% for SB and 7% for Btn (It's -0.1% equity) and I think those are conservative estimates of their calling range (they are probably much wider, BB is probably closer to 35% and SB closer to 15% = -0.9% equity).