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if person A says that something will happen by "8p sharp" and a wager is placed with person B who "takes the over," does person A win if the event occurs by 8:00:59 or does he lose at 8:00:01?

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My vote would be hi wins at 8:00:59. I take 8 sharp to mean 8:00 on a clock.

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he loses at 8:00:01

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if person A says that something will happen by "8p sharp" and a wager is placed with person B who "takes the over," does person A win if the event occurs by 8:00:59 or does he lose at 8:00:01?

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The over/under is 8:00:00. If it happens at 8:00:59 or 8:00:01, person B wins.

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if person A says that something will happen by "8p sharp" and a wager is placed with person B who "takes the over," does person A win if the event occurs by 8:00:59 or does he lose at 8:00:01?

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He loses at 8:00:01 obv, I can't believe this is even a question.

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he loses at 8:00:01

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he loses at 8:01:00 surely you cant have a super exact acurate time to the last milisecond.

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he loses at 8:00:01

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if person A says that something will happen by "8p sharp" and a wager is placed with person B who "takes the over," does person A win if the event occurs by 8:00:59 or does he lose at 8:00:01?

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The over/under is 8:00:00. If it happens at 8:00:59 or 8:00:01, person B wins.

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why do you think "8p sharp" implies 8:00:00? why stop there? why doesn't it imply 8:00:00:00, with person A losing at 8:00:00:01?

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I'm sure that's what he meant, but very few clocks go beyond seconds.

It clearly means the point in time that is 8:00. There is only one point in time that would be agreed upon as 8:00, and it is not 8:00:59. Physicists please do not reply to this post.

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if person A says that something will happen by "8p sharp" and a wager is placed with person B who "takes the over," does person A win if the event occurs by 8:00:59 or does he lose at 8:00:01?

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The over/under is 8:00:00. If it happens at 8:00:59 or 8:00:01, person B wins.

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why do you think "8p sharp" implies 8:00:00? why stop there? why doesn't it imply 8:00:00:00, with person A losing at 8:00:00:01?

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sure why not

regardless, if the guy isn't there by the time your digital watch turns 8:00, B loses

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Everyone, take a step back for a second and realize what you're spending time discussing.

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I like ponies.

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PROP BETS OMG

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large amounts of money have been won and lost over matters much more trivial.

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I bet you this thread will still be active tomorrow at 8pm sharp

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if person A says that something will happen by "8p sharp" and a wager is placed with person B who "takes the over," does person A win if the event occurs by 8:00:59 or does he lose at 8:00:01?

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He loses at 8:00:01 obv, I can't believe this is even a question.

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It could be either. It just needs to defined before the bet is entered ito. I cant believe there is any other answer.

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if person A says that something will happen by "8p sharp" and a wager is placed with person B who "takes the over," does person A win if the event occurs by 8:00:59 or does he lose at 8:00:01?

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The over/under is 8:00:00. If it happens at 8:00:59 or 8:00:01, person B wins.

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why do you think "8p sharp" implies 8:00:00? why stop there? why doesn't it imply 8:00:00:00, with person A losing at 8:00:00:01?

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sure why not

regardless, if the guy isn't there by the time your digital watch turns 8:00, B loses

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so you are assuming perfectly synchronized clocks/watches? at least synchronized to the second? wouldn't it be far more reasonable to expect synchronization to the minute?

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This is a decent thread idea. Everyone has an opinion, it's meaningless but kinda funny. What more do you want?

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8:00 sharp is anytime the minute hand is > 7:59 and < 8:01. Whoever called whatever happened wins, whoever is disagreeing is a bitch.

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This is a decent thread idea. Everyone has an opinion, it's meaningless but kinda funny. What more do you want?

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This is far more important and far ranging that the average OOT post.

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he loses at 8:00:01

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to the 8:00:01 contingent, consider this:

if you said to a prospective employer you'd show up at an interview at "8p sharp," according to your logic you'd be violating that statement even if you showed up at 7:59:59, as well as if you showed at 8:00:01.

the obvious, logical, and common-sensical interpretation of "8p sharp" is that you'd be late by 8:01.

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the obvious, logical, and common-sensical interpretation of "8p sharp" is that you'd be late by 8:01.

The obvious, logical and common-sensical conclusion is that when 8:00:00:00000000000000000 rolls around, you're there.

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so you are assuming perfectly synchronized clocks/watches? at least synchronized to the second? wouldn't it be far more reasonable to expect synchronization to the minute?

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this is a very good point - if I had to be somewhere at 8pm sharp then I'd assume that I'd have as long as the watch says 8:00 to get there

I now agree with you

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he loses at 8:01:00 surely you cant have a super exact acurate time to the last milisecond.

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Agreed.

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the obvious, logical, and common-sensical interpretation of "8p sharp" is that you'd be late by 8:01.

The obvious, logical and common-sensical conclusion is that when 8:00:00:00000000000000000 rolls around, you're there.

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Quoted for blazingly obvious correct-ness.

Mikeech - pay your friend his money.

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There is a time-tested solution here that allows for a fudge factor. Anyone read Around the World in Eighty Days?

Get a grandfather clock. When it stops tolling, the bet has been lost. If you bet for 1pm instead of 9pm, tough nuggets.

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to the 8:00:01 contingent, consider this:

if you said to a prospective employer you'd show up at an interview at "8p sharp," according to your logic you'd be violating that statement even if you showed up at 7:59:59, as well as if you showed at 8:00:01.

the obvious, logical, and common-sensical interpretation of "8p sharp" is that you'd be late by 8:01.

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If you told me, as your prospective employer that you would be there by 8P sharp, and I looked up at a clock with a time that started with 8, you'd better be in the chair already.

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to the 8:00:01 contingent, consider this:

if you said to a prospective employer you'd show up at an interview at "8p sharp," according to your logic you'd be violating that statement even if you showed up at 7:59:59, as well as if you showed at 8:00:01.

the obvious, logical, and common-sensical interpretation of "8p sharp" is that you'd be late by 8:01.

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If you told me, as your prospective employer that you would be there by 8P sharp, and I looked up at a clock with a time that started with 8, you'd better be in the chair already.

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Best point so far.

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if "sharp" is dictated, then the prop bet is lost when the clock strikes 8pm.

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he loses at 8:00:01

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if "sharp" is dictated, then the prop bet is lost when the clock strikes 8pm.

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agreed.
sry mike.

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OP: When are you going to concede that you got uttlery owned sideways on this one? You can't ask OOT to settle a dispute and then refuse the ruling.

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Was the bet "At 8pm sharp" or "By 8pm sharp"?

scrub

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OP: When are you going to concede that you got uttlery owned sideways on this one? You can't ask OOT to settle a dispute and then refuse the ruling.

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stfu retard! and it ain't over yet, 2hrs after posting is still way too early.

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Was the bet "At 8pm sharp" or "By 8pm sharp"?

scrub

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surprisingly, this is somewhat important

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OP: When are you going to concede that you got uttlery owned sideways on this one? You can't ask OOT to settle a dispute and then refuse the ruling.

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stfu retard! and it ain't over yet, 2hrs after posting is still way too early.

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Right. Don't believe those FL exit polls.

Your opponent in this matter informs me that you'll be sending him in the neighborhood of $700 for your gaffe. LOL.

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if "sharp" is dictated, then the prop bet is lost when the clock strikes 8pm.

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agreed.
sry mike.

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you both suck. btw, how'd you guys do at commerce last wknd? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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Was the bet "At 8pm sharp" or "By 8pm sharp"?

scrub

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this can no longer be determined with any certainty. assume neither preposition was used.