Is casino bonus whoring easier than poker bonus whoring?
 

I want to make a few hundred bucks extra to supplement my income without risking too much money and spending too much time. I have tried bonus whoring playing poker but I find most of them hard to clear at the micro level (low financial risk). For example, you have the dealt monthly bonuses at Crypto but to clear $100 in 5 hours you need to play 2/4 Limit on 4 tables (100MPPS/hour). Another "easy" one is Will Hill´s but you need to sit for 5 hours at 1/2 to get $50. A similar thing happens with the Prima ones (Eurolinx, Purple). Most of the times I just broken even after the bonuses were cleared.

A good bonus for example is Empire´s 10xRHs. You can clear it at the micros in 2-3 hours (low financial risk plus clears fast). After looking around I see that this could probably be the only poker bonus of this nature. I want to dig into the casino bonuses and see if with some basic blackjack skills (or any casino games if possible) I could clear some good bonuses. Any Empire´s like casino bonuses around that I could clear relatively fast (no more than 4 hours per bonus) and playing for pennies?

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Are you in US?

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No

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imo casino bonusing is way better. you play when you want and the EV can be calculated exactly so all you nned to do is get used to variance. I make way more on casinos in much less time than poker.

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Try www.beatingbonuses.com and work your way through the best sign up bonuses list.

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Careful though - get use to the differences between cashable and sticky bonuses. The strategy for each is different. And go via Affiliates to get kickbacks. Don't use the site links cos they will keep the kickback themselves.

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I want to make a few hundred bucks extra to supplement my income without risking too much money and spending too much time.

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I dont know whether this is possible.
Either u need to make big bets and spend little time and at the same time risk your deposit or bet small, spend much time and almost certain income.

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Its easily possible. I clear about $800 per month.

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You are too late thats all. 2 years ago you could clear pokerbonusses fast and easy on low / microstakes. But the same happens with Casinos, many have now a WR from 30, 40,50,60 and BJ is not allowed.

I whored and played poker for 4 years, but lost nearly any interest. The best times are over !!!!

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http://www.beatingbonuses.com/bestbonus.htm

so what bonus would clear fast here? im a noob to casino whoring

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so what bonus would clear fast here? im a noob to casino whoring

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why not just play one? goldenpalace or bet365 for example so you can compare it later to new ones

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I'll pm you

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Its easily possible. I clear about $800 per month.

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Playing for pennies? For example, I can clear Empires playing Micro stakes (Lower than NL10). Do you the same at casinos?

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You are too late thats all. 2 years ago you could clear pokerbonusses fast and easy on low / microstakes. But the same happens with Casinos, many have now a WR from 30, 40,50,60 and BJ is not allowed.

I whored and played poker for 4 years, but lost nearly any interest. The best times are over !!!!

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I understand. However there has to be at least one casino that still reminds you of the old days. I only want 1 or 2 easy bonuses to make a few ($200-$300), thats all.

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You are too late thats all. 2 years ago you could clear pokerbonusses fast and easy on low / microstakes. But the same happens with Casinos, many have now a WR from 30, 40,50,60 and BJ is not allowed.

I whored and played poker for 4 years, but lost nearly any interest. The best times are over !!!!

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This is incorrect and is a knee jerk reply based on the wide spread US player restrictions amongst on-line casinos. You must bear in mind that the OP has clearly stated that he is a non-US resident.

I personally now average $8,500 per month from casino bonus bagging and I must admit that it took me a little while (around 5 months) to work up to that level once I decided to take it seriously. I work approx 7 hours a day, from a bankroll of £6k ($12k) and I am not an aggressive multi-accounter. I only play for myself and my other-half and I only play for my other-half at casinos that are what we call 'partner friendly'.

Also note that the monthly return that I have stated above wholly excludes extra profits made from sports book bonus scalping (which thankfully is still a lucrative area of on-line bonus bagging) and also excludes poker room bonuses.

Truth be told, there are in fact a lot of great casino bonus offers out there. However, the main difference between now and two years ago is that now, very few of the great offers hang around for very long (the t&c's for the bonus change in a matter of days/weeks rather than months). Or the game of wagering choice is more difficult to learn (blackjack excluded bonuses).

For example, last month I cleared a cashable £500 ($1000) bonus with a mere £5,000 wagering requirement (10 times bonus). Plus baccarat, roulette, craps and blackjack were all allowed games to clear the wagering with. That offer has now very recently been pulled, but the simple fact that offers like that are still out there to be had, lets you know just how lucrative casino bonus hunting can still be to someone who is looking to profit from it.

To the OP, I suggest you start out with the really small deposit bonuses. Offers that require less than $100 deposit cash and let you play blackjack (low variance). Simply ease yourself into the casino bonus bagging game. A small, but solidly good, bonus to start out with is Littlewoods sign up £50 ($100) casino bonus offer.

Also, do some research... google to try and find out about other forums that are dedicated to casino bonus bagging (twoplustwo is a great place to start, but the focus here tends to be upon poker bonuses, rather than casino ones) and finally learn how to play casino games other than blackjack.

I must also stress, that I can only speak from my experience as a non-US bonus bagger.

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is there any sites that still give you the bonus upfront, so you can wager with it instead of risking your own roll? or have most sites stopped?

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I personally now average $8,500 per month from casino bonus bagging

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This figure surprises me. I don't doubt that you can earn this monthly but from my own experiences I'd never be able to find a range of sign up bonuses and monthlies to get near this amount. Is it just a matter of trawling through the Internet for the best offers?

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I lost about $1000 this and last month trying to clear casino bonuses. I guess it's variance, but it doesn't feel a safe way of making money.

In addition to that one less reputable site stole $400 from me.

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The problem is that casinos are much less dependable and risky than the larger poker sites. The casinos that offer lucrative signups are unheard of and it's a gamble in itself playing there. There are a lot of sites that without sufficient research can give you tens of thousands of bonuses a month, but you'll find they stiff a large percentage of the players. Maybe you've gotten lucky so far, but any site that changes its T&C's in a matter of days/weeks is not likely a big site, and most likely will stiff people.

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I personally now average $8,500 per month from casino bonus bagging

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This figure surprises me. I don't doubt that you can earn this monthly but from my own experiences I'd never be able to find a range of sign up bonuses and monthlies to get near this amount. Is it just a matter of trawling through the Internet for the best offers?

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Seems like a high number for sure.
I counted every monthly on the beatingbonuses page and there was only EV of +2k, not counting exhange fees since the bonuses are given in 3 different currencies. Then you have to play every casino game and also take a few stickys, whatever optimal strategy for that is.

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This figure surprises me. I don't doubt that you can earn this monthly but from my own experiences I'd never be able to find a range of sign up bonuses and monthlies to get near this amount. Is it just a matter of trawling through the Internet for the best offers?

Pretty much. Almost one fourth of my time is spent researching offers (both finding them and checking out the rep of the casino as well as discussing the offer with fellow casino baggers).

I lost about $1000 this and last month trying to clear casino bonuses. I guess it's variance, but it doesn't feel a safe way of making money.

Mathematically, casino bonus bagging is a consistant way of making money. However, you need to grow to accept the variance along the way and more importantly you need to believe in the maths behind the bonus offer... even when you are losing.

Therefore there isn't much else I can say to you other than to keep playing +ev offers, don't tilt and play within your bankroll/risk temperament.

There are a lot of sites that without sufficient research can give you tens of thousands of bonuses a month, but you'll find they stiff a large percentage of the players. Maybe you've gotten lucky so far, but any site that changes its T&C's in a matter of days/weeks is not likely a big site, and most likely will stiff people.

I find that the harder I work, the luckier I get ... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Seriously, it isn't a luck thing. I make a real effort to avoid risky casinos. I do this by cross checking a casino's reputation on a number of forums/review websites before I deposit. There are three or four reputable and active review websites/forums that are dedicated to checking up on and lengthily discussing the reptuation of online casinos/sportsbooks/pokerrooms.

That is why I am rarely nervous about depositing my money into a casino and (touch wood) I have so far never had money withheld from me (although admittedly I do have to jump through hoops now and then with certain casinos simply to get my money back out). Basically, I have never been the one to go in and 'Guinea pig' a new casino offer (this is where you jump in to test the water, then report back) no matter how lucrative the offer may look.

Seems like a high number for sure.
I counted every monthly on the beatingbonuses page and there was only EV of +2k, not counting exhange fees since the bonuses are given in 3 different currencies. Then you have to play every casino game and also take a few stickys, whatever optimal strategy for that is.

First of all, yes my monthly return is definitely a high number, one that surprises even myself. But it is on target ev wise, so it is not a case of my 'running good', simply 'running in line with ev'. To be frank, I have no idea how long I can maintain this kind of return for... but I stay cautiously optimistic. Investing extra time into this has made all the difference in my monthly returns.

Secondly, beatingbonuses is great in that they have a lot of offers on its list, but simply glancing at their monthly bonus offers list, they have missed out a number of weekly offers (which isn't their fault, it would be almost impossible for anyone to keep a list of every single +ev offer out there all in one place, hence my visiting many different places to find out what bonuses are currently on offer).

Also, when you are a regular at a casino, you also get on the lists for various VIP bonuses (offers that aren't available to everyone). At most casinos, getting on the VIP list can be hit or miss, but when you find yourself on two or three VIP lists, then that is a substancial amount of extra +ev you have just added to your bottom line.

There are also semi-recurring bonuses offered to everyone (usually they offer these as an incentive, to invite people back into their casino, when a major sporting event is on... for example recently the Rugby World cup offered up a load of emailed offers).

Lastly, there is an optimal strategy for sticky bonuses... in layman's terms, it mostly revolves around how much risk you are willing to take when clearing a sticky. And yes, I do play pretty much every game, depending on what the wagering requires (that is why I stressed that the OP learns casino games outside of blackjack).

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Careful though - get use to the differences between cashable and sticky bonuses. The strategy for each is different. And go via Affiliates to get kickbacks. Don't use the site links cos they will keep the kickback themselves.

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What good casino affiliate are ther out ther ?

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Talking about poker bonus whoring why don't you try PokerSourceOnline or PokerSavvy. They offer some really nice bonuses for micro stakes. Wingows, Carbon via PSO and Noble via Savvy. Good luck.