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lead24 10-14-2007 06:46 PM

50nl QQ
 

CO: $38.30
BTN: $255.55
SB: $50.25
Hero (BB): $49.25
UTG: $49.65
MP: $14.95

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, CO calls $0.50, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, CO calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $13.25</font>, <font color="red">Hero ?

is this a clear WA/WB situation? What should i do?

CruS 10-14-2007 06:49 PM

Re: 50nl QQ
 
I shove because he has an overpair a lot and will call your shove. But a lot of turns will slow down the action

lead24 10-14-2007 07:32 PM

Re: 50nl QQ
 
if i shove will he call with something that i can beat

CruS 10-14-2007 07:37 PM

Re: 50nl QQ
 
read my post again and you understand what I think.

iheartponeez 10-14-2007 07:46 PM

Re: 50nl QQ
 
Yeah, the basic thinking here is: He's probably not calling a raise with a 2 in his hand, unless he has 22. That's a rarity though, since it would make quads.

So he's probably on 66+. That puts you ahead of his range. Since he's not drawing, and won't keep paying off here, you just shove and get it all-in. If he has 66, AA, or KK...sucks. But JJ, TT, 99, 88, and 77 are all good times, not to mention he might think your bluffing and nothing hit you, and so he's pushing the action with AK or something.

orange 10-14-2007 07:48 PM

Re: 50nl QQ
 
we are rarely behind here...if he has 2x/66, so be it, but i think we are good here nearly always. i would call and either c/bomg turn or just shove now.

iheartponeez 10-14-2007 08:02 PM

Re: 50nl QQ
 
Oh yes, and AA/KK are less likely since he'd probably have reraised you preflop were he holding those hands.

sl8a 10-15-2007 07:44 AM

Re: 50nl QQ
 
Just push, limp call is usually never AA/KK and mid pp is a big possibility, ur ahead of everything in his range except 22/66. Could even be AJ/AQ trying to get tricky.

sovietsong 10-15-2007 07:56 AM

Re: 50nl QQ
 
As already said this is a definate push for me, i think he is holding a pp here 9/10 AA/KK are out as he would almost certainly repop pre and 66 is just unlucky, plus i think he raises less with a flopped FH.

Nick Royale 10-15-2007 08:02 AM

Re: 50nl QQ
 
Shove it now.

corsakh 10-15-2007 08:03 AM

Re: 50nl QQ
 
I think it looks more like a better hand trying to get an overpair pot committed. But I still shove readless.

BananaDan 10-15-2007 08:15 AM

Re: 50nl QQ
 
On a sidenote what about the size of the preflopraise? I tend to make it 4x when I´m opening, add 1 bb for every limper and possibly add yet another bb or even 2 if OOP. Not that it´s a big deal in this situation, just curious if anyone else is raising a tad more preflop.

EDIT: Oh and readless I too am getting it in here vs an unknown at 50 $ level.

Nick Royale 10-15-2007 08:17 AM

Re: 50nl QQ
 
[ QUOTE ]
On a sidenote what about the size of the preflopraise? I tend to make it 4x when I´m opening, add 1 bb for every limper and possibly add yet another bb or even 2 if OOP. Not that it´s a big deal in this situation, just curious if anyone else is raising a tad more preflop.

EDIT: Oh and readless I too am getting it in here vs an unknown at 50 $ level.

[/ QUOTE ]
Yeah.

takingcontrol 10-15-2007 08:20 AM

Re: 50nl QQ
 
get it in, all pairs call you, a6 calls you, a2s/aa/kk/66 are unlucky but you get called by worse hands all day every day until till 2099.


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