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Bertrand13 11-13-2007 01:59 AM

busto again on stars
 
im just curious if anyone else has the same problem as myself

i have a decent roll on ub ap and party (10k each) and consistently win there

however when it comes to stars i cant seem to keep a roll

i recently built one up to 10k and well a month or so later its gone

im thinking im just not good enough for the large feilds or i run bad when it matters

any thoughts or suggestions??

illini43 11-13-2007 02:07 AM

Re: busto again on stars
 
Stop playing the Super Tuesday

chrismystero 11-13-2007 02:31 AM

Re: busto again on stars
 
Don't suck.

Did you actually expect serious replies?

Bertrand13 11-13-2007 02:36 AM

Re: busto again on stars
 
nah

just thought maybe some people have had the same problem as myself

jonnyd 11-13-2007 02:41 AM

Re: busto again on stars
 
they fk u

ShipitFMA 11-13-2007 02:42 AM

Re: busto again on stars
 
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nah

just thought maybe some people have had the same problem as myself

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Losing? Pretty sure aloot of people have this problem

pegusus 11-13-2007 02:45 AM

Re: busto again on stars
 
before you busted you roll, were you playing the tuesday 1k's, 100 rebuys, or full sunday stars schedule (i.e. warmup, million, second chance, etc.)

Annulus 11-13-2007 02:47 AM

Re: busto again on stars
 
stars is rigged for you?

Bertrand13 11-13-2007 02:49 AM

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nah

just thought maybe some people have had the same problem as myself

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Losing? Pretty sure aloot of people have this problem

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yea your right

guess it was a stupid post

but i am a winning player on every other site

just kinda frustrated cause stars money is much better

Bertrand13 11-13-2007 02:53 AM

Re: busto again on stars
 
and yea i may have over extended my roll abit but never played the 1k only went as high as the warm up and million on sundays and never really played the 100r

ianisakson 11-13-2007 03:14 AM

Re: busto again on stars
 
for some reason I thought for like 1/4 of a second that you were Elky. does that make me stoopid?

Soulman 11-13-2007 03:41 AM

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for some reason I thought for like 1/4 of a second that you were Elky. does that make me stoopid?

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Obv

Bakes 11-13-2007 03:43 AM

Re: busto again on stars
 
i say this every time but Elky's loc would def be: the future

chrismystero 11-13-2007 07:17 AM

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never really played the 100r

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either you did or you didn't

Rocco 11-13-2007 08:17 AM

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nah

just thought maybe some people have had the same problem as myself

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+1

hasuuser 11-13-2007 09:41 AM

Re: busto again on stars
 
You should ve played the 100r. Easymoney!

tufat23 11-13-2007 09:43 AM

Re: busto again on stars
 
im like a 5k lifetime loser on stars

MJBuddy 11-13-2007 12:11 PM

Re: busto again on stars
 
Play within your [censored] bankroll.


Or just ship me the money instead.

BrandiFan 11-13-2007 01:06 PM

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for some reason I thought for like 1/4 of a second that you were Elky. does that make me stoopid?

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Obv

[/ QUOTE ]Elky crushes Stars, Supernova ELITE! He's definitely not down...

the alex 11-13-2007 04:47 PM

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nah

just thought maybe some people have had the same problem as myself

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Losing? Pretty sure aloot of people have this problem

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I'm not at all attracted to the girl in your avatar, but it makes me smile every time I see it.

Do I have t3h ghey?

the alex 11-13-2007 04:48 PM

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i say this every time but Elky's loc would def be: looking like Dee Snider

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FYP

Chesskid1 11-13-2007 04:51 PM

Re: busto again on stars
 
to be honest, pokerstars should easily be the most profitable site to any dedicated MTTer player, in regards of amount of tournies starting, strength of field, prize pools, etc. (elky is losing because he plays above his head). If you aren't winning on stars MTT, you aren't playing well. (obvious exceptions for like if you only play the high buyins)

Perplexity 11-13-2007 05:27 PM

Re: busto again on stars
 
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to be honest, pokerstars should easily be the most profitable site to any dedicated MTTer player, in regards of amount of tournies starting, strength of field, prize pools, etc. (elky is losing because he plays above his head). If you aren't winning on stars MTT after playing X tournies with average field size Y, you aren't playing well. (obvious exceptions for like if you only play the high buyins)

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FYP... what are plausible X/Y values?

Bertrand13 11-13-2007 05:46 PM

Re: busto again on stars
 
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to be honest, pokerstars should easily be the most profitable site to any dedicated MTTer player, in regards of amount of tournies starting, strength of field, prize pools, etc. (elky is losing because he plays above his head). If you aren't winning on stars MTT, you aren't playing well. (obvious exceptions for like if you only play the high buyins)

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i understand what your saying...i dont think i play that bad i mean i have made around 100k in the past year on ub party and ap but the avg field size in those mtt's are usually around 200 or so

my thinking is i need to find out what my leaks are in mtt's with large fields or variance is just biting me in the ass on stars

any suggestions how to figure out my leaks other than cardrunners?

pegusus 11-13-2007 06:14 PM

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i understand what your saying...i dont think i play that bad i mean i have made around 100k in the past year on ub party and ap but the avg field size in those mtt's are usually around 200 or so



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100k in winnings or 100k in profits, if it's 100k in profits over a good sample size (i.e. you didn't just run hot or luckbox something) then why would you care about stars, just stick to your strengths. although yea, if you have a good sample size on stars and are still a losing player then perhaps you are playing above your head or playing bad.

Bertrand13 11-13-2007 07:10 PM

Re: busto again on stars
 
yes its around 100k in profits and no i didntly just luckbox a big tourny iv actually won a ton of smaller mtt's (avg like 4k prize)

and the reason i care so much about stars is because i wanna move up and its hard to do so on ub when the biggest daily tournament has a prize pool of like 20k

but you are right i should def just stick to my strengths

A_PLUS 11-13-2007 10:16 PM

Re: busto again on stars
 
What is the average field size? I imagine stars is a lot larger. If so, that means you need a ton more MTTs before you can reasonably say you are a losing player on stars.

Honestly, I always thought stars was the toughest pre US outlaw, but the prize pools and tourney frequency made up for it. Probably still the same now.

Assani Fisher 11-13-2007 10:22 PM

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nah

just thought maybe some people have had the same problem as myself

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Losing? Pretty sure aloot of people have this problem

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LOL.


99,670 and counting

jonnyd 11-13-2007 10:23 PM

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nah

just thought maybe some people have had the same problem as myself

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Losing? Pretty sure aloot of people have this problem

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LOL.


99,670 and counting

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seriously what are you counting

Assani Fisher 11-13-2007 10:32 PM

Re: busto again on stars
 
Ugh, theres a huge thread on this already in the "About the Forums"

99,667 and counting

jonnyd 11-13-2007 10:33 PM

Re: busto again on stars
 
lol get over yourself you herb

Soulman 11-14-2007 07:13 AM

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Honestly, I always thought stars was the toughest pre US outlaw, but the prize pools and tourney frequency made up for it. Probably still the same now.

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Word. Apart from the "play vs the best for practice" argument, I don't see any particular reason to play on Stars if there are alternatives. Of course, if you're 10-tabling not playing Stars is probably silly, but especially for Euros playing MTTs on Stars apart from the obvious ones ($150 nightly, $50 $50kg, Mill etc) probably isn't the best idea from a ROI perspective.


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