500bbs deep at Wynn
 

I went to the Wynn to feast upon the JUICY 10/20nl with 20k and stumbled upon a three handed 50/100nl. I recognized Tim, (a regular in gabe thaler's venetian 200/400 ) JoeB, (bellagio 25/50 grinder) and Randy Jensen "the dream crusher". It occurred to me very quickly who this game was designed around. Randy is your quinticential donkament station. I wasted no time and bought in for 20k before he went bust. Half an hour later I have 55kish in front of me and am covered by Tim and Randy. Randy has been bluffing at me incessantly and is on pajunky-monkey tilt when this hand goes down;

I open 350 UTG with 22. Randy makes it 1100 outta SB, and tim cold calls outta BB. I call. Flop is Q92 rainbow. I have a boner. They check to me, I fire $2500 into $3300.
Randy has about 8k in chips in front of him along with 100k in cash and annouces a raise of all the chips. I flat call. Do you fellas like a raise here? I really felt like if we're going to put 500bbs in on the flop he's going to show me a better hand. Turn is a beautiful Q. Randy leads 10k... I make it 35k and plan to barf, then call a shove. All comments on all streets appreciated.

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I dont see much wrong with the hand, I don't really trust his line here, Would he not lead the flop with AQ in stead of checkraise? Then again it's hard to say cause he is not a cash player so his hand values might be a bit messed up.


off topic: I was at the Wynn that night btw in the 10-20 game. The 50-100 game looked great. I like Tim as a person but he was on life-tilt in that period. Joey wasn't really clearminded and Randy is a cashdonk. Sick game to be in [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img].

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Depends on how big a donk he is, I don't think you can fold a set here. On the flop I'd raise for sure.. Q on the turn is beautiful? How do you know he doesn't have KQs AQs etc.. his play makes that very possible. What was your image to him at the time?

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I had been running over the game. I had taken 30kish off Randy and 5k off Tim in the last 30 minutes-hour.

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looks good, id probably think for a while call the turn and get it in on the river. (shove over a bet) he's not ever bet/folding a made hand here (Qx) and may actually fold an overpair or whatnot on the turn but would instead bet on theriver. and of course he could have a ton of bluffs that you dont want to shut out. if he ever has 99 w/e, but this is just such a beautiful spot.

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Turn seems like a good spot to tank for a couple seconds and then just call, then get it in on the river. He's obviously not laying down a Q but given that it's Randy who could still be firing with ATo or something, I would let him keep the initiative.

Kirk

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Depends on how big a donk he is, I don't think you can fold a set here. On the flop I'd raise for sure.. Q on the turn is beautiful? How do you know he doesn't have KQs AQs etc.. his play makes that very possible. What was your image to him at the time?

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You do realize OP has a set on the flop. This means he now has a boat on the turn whereas AQ or KQ just has trips. And I'm not sure what hands you think are going to call your flop reraise. This is a hand we want to target his stack. Betting him off his hand is just bad poker.

Also, I agree with Bobbo and Kirk with turn/river line.

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Thanks man. I think you're right. The play woulda been flat call and shove over a bet on the river. I really gotta give his overpairs and bluffs some more rope with a cc on turn. Hehe.. woulda saved myself 40k too with the river being the ole' second nineball and he shows me 99 for quads.

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Calllllllll the turnnnn

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I went to the Wynn to feast upon the JUICY 10/20nl with 20k and stumbled upon a three handed 50/100nl. I recognized Tim, (a regular in gabe thaler's venetian 200/400 ) JoeB, (bellagio 25/50 grinder) and Randy Jensen "the dream crusher". It occurred to me very quickly who this game was designed around. Randy is your quinticential donkament station. I wasted no time and bought in for 20k before he went bust. Half an hour later I have 55kish in front of me and am covered by Tim and Randy. Randy has been bluffing at me incessantly and is on pajunky-monkey tilt when this hand goes down;

I open 350 UTG with 22. Randy makes it 1100 outta SB, and tim cold calls outta BB. I call. Flop is Q92 rainbow. I have a boner. They check to me, I fire $2500 into $3300.
Randy has about 8k in chips in front of him along with 100k in cash and annouces a raise of all the chips. I flat call. Do you fellas like a raise here? I really felt like if we're going to put 500bbs in on the flop he's going to show me a better hand. Turn is a beautiful Q. Randy leads 10k... I make it 35k and plan to barf, then call a shove. All comments on all streets appreciated.

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call the turn...and see what the river is and evalute--almost never folding unless it's a Q or a 9, and probably just calling the river bet anyway. Bet river if checked to, pretty close to full pot. Shoving river is often burning $ this deep.

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I went to the Wynn to feast upon the JUICY 10/20nl with 20k and stumbled upon a three handed 50/100nl. I recognized Tim, (a regular in gabe thaler's venetian 200/400 ) JoeB, (bellagio 25/50 grinder) and Randy Jensen "the dream crusher". It occurred to me very quickly who this game was designed around. Randy is your quinticential donkament station. I wasted no time and bought in for 20k before he went bust. Half an hour later I have 55kish in front of me and am covered by Tim and Randy. Randy has been bluffing at me incessantly and is on pajunky-monkey tilt when this hand goes down;

I open 350 UTG with 22. Randy makes it 1100 outta SB, and tim cold calls outta BB. I call. Flop is Q92 rainbow. I have a boner. They check to me, I fire $2500 into $3300.
Randy has about 8k in chips in front of him along with 100k in cash and annouces a raise of all the chips. I flat call. Do you fellas like a raise here? I really felt like if we're going to put 500bbs in on the flop he's going to show me a better hand. Turn is a beautiful Q. Randy leads 10k... I make it 35k and plan to barf, then call a shove. All comments on all streets appreciated.

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plz tell me when you played this game. i.e., how long ago was this?

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soooooooooooooooooooooo sick... def just call turn... but ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww...

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Thanks man. I think you're right. The play woulda been flat call and shove over a bet on the river. I really gotta give his overpairs and bluffs some more rope with a cc on turn. Hehe.. woulda saved myself 40k too with the river being the ole' second nineball and he shows me 99 for quads.

[/ QUOTE ]Yeah. But what do you all think about if a 9 comes? a Q?

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Early July

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This hand def happened

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he was such a [censored] fish when he won that pot screamed so loud...

i remember us from our table telling him nobody cares idiot shut up and stop celebrating

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he was such a [censored] fish when he won that pot screamed so loud...

i remember us from our table telling him nobody cares idiot shut up and stop celebrating

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was i there? you and i played together like everyday at the wynn...

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randy jensen seems like a total tool

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just call turn

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sick spot i raise turn usually cuz i always see a gross river when i flat but i think flat is more +ev

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call.

and results?

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AKZ whats ur real life name?

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he was such a [censored] fish when he won that pot screamed so loud...

i remember us from our table telling him nobody cares idiot shut up and stop celebrating

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was i there? you and i played together a few times at the wynn...

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i'm dubness/alex btw
azk is ari

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ow hey hmmz ari mehh doesnt ring a bell.. picture plz [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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I would not be barfing calling a shove. I would be salvating over how much money I was just about to win assuming my full house held up against AQ/AA/KK/KQ. I would just flat call on the turn, continue trapping him. You get more money that way. Oh and barfing is unneccessary when you get it all in on the river [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] Unless the river is a Q or 9 of course.

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lol @ someone who puts in their whole 500bb stack without a boat, and deuces full doesnt beat many of those

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lol @ someone who puts in their whole 500bb stack without a boat, and deuces full doesnt beat many of those

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do you know anything about live poker?

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Turn seems like a good spot to tank for a couple seconds and then just call, then get it in on the river. He's obviously not laying down a Q but given that it's Randy who could still be firing with ATo or something, I would let him keep the initiative.

Kirk

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i agree with kirk here. chances are that the best hand randy has here is AA... much more likely to have 88, AK, kj, ect... if you read randy as having a q... yeah, get it in on the turn... otherwise, i think he dumps the hand here.

call the 10k and then hope he donks out of 20k on the river

the way you have described the game, i dont think we can ever lay this hand down.

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don't have a pic handy, you mucked AJ to me.

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ok on AKJ where u flopped QT?

that was AK btw [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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This hand def happened

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lol

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Depends on how big a donk he is, I don't think you can fold a set here. On the flop I'd raise for sure.. Q on the turn is beautiful? How do you know he doesn't have KQs AQs etc.. his play makes that very possible. What was your image to him at the time?

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ok on AKJ where u flopped QT?

that was AK btw [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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sick life

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I cant wait to get him acrossed the felt from me again... He's in big troule