NL100: KQ top 2
 

Live game 9-handed. 2/2 NL with $100 max buyin.

Table is loose and villains are both LAGgy regulars. So they are LAGgy, but they certainly aren't fish.

Hero has $172
MP1 has $100
SB has $200+

Hero has K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in CO

Pre-flop: EPs fold, MP1 calls $2, folded to Hero in CO who raises to $12, button folds, SB calls, BB folds, MP1 calls

Pot (after rake): $36

Flop: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

SB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $20, SB calls, MP1 folds

Pot: $76

Turn: J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

SB checks, Hero...?

What is your plan from here on turn and river?

Re: NL100: KQ top 2
 

I'm betting literally any turn card here.

Re: NL100: KQ top 2
 

Umm what are turn card?

Re: NL100: KQ top 2
 

I was thinking that too....

Re: NL100: KQ top 2
 

Sorry guys... J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Re: NL100: KQ top 2
 

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I'm betting literally any turn card here.

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you bet a heart turn card?

Re: NL100: KQ top 2
 

i check here when alot of draws just hit villain

Re: NL100: KQ top 2
 

I check.

Re: NL100: KQ top 2
 

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Sorry guys... J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

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Obv. that is a really crappy turn card. It hits a lot of his range and is also scary to a lot of his weaker hands that we might have been able to get lots of value from.

Basically the only hands we beat after that turn card that are going to give us any significant action are KJ and QJ, and even then they will now tread carefully.

Checking will be the best play on the turn here.

Re: NL100: KQ top 2
 

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I'm betting literally any turn card here.

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you bet a heart turn card?

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Oops, missed the FD. I'd probably check and call a reasonable river bet.

Re: NL100: KQ top 2
 

Nobody bets here? On the flop, your SPR was 4.4 against a loose player and you have top 2.

Re: NL100: KQ top 2
 

I bet 40 here and fold to any aggression.

Re: NL100: KQ top 2
 

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I bet 40 here and fold to any aggression.

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id bet 30 here but also fold to any aggression

Re: NL100: KQ top 2
 

I check, call a reasonable bet on the river; probably check behind river, although one of my weaknesses is missing out on value on the river, I'm not sure if this is one of those cases...

Re: NL100: KQ top 2
 

If river checks to us, we need to value-bet. (On good rivers, that is)

Re: NL100: KQ top 2
 

If river is checked, not value betting is horrible. I probably check turn, call/bet river.

Re: NL100: KQ top 2
 

Check turn. Bet river if checked to you. Otherwise call a small-medium sized bet.

Re: NL100: KQ top 2
 

Check the turn behind, re-eval river. He doesn't have a flush/straight here as often as you think, but on the opposite end of the spectrum betting this turn will fold out everything we crush and only get action from the hands that beat us.

Re: NL100: KQ top 2
 

Well.. I [censored] up.

This was a friday night and a loose table. People were calling off stacks with TPWK. I decided I was committed with KQ even with that turn because I'd get called by a pair with a heart or KJ or QJ. I figured it was unlikely that villain hit a gutshot.

So I bet $60 on the turn with the intention of seeing a fold or a call and then value betting the rest on river.

Villain pushed all in on the turn, I called and he showed A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. He called that flop bet with 3 clean outs and I got stacked.

Re: NL100: KQ top 2
 

...and after getting stacked I make a note to stay at this table until I pass out from fatigue.

TRWIII