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davebreal 11-23-2007 10:27 PM

30/60, who likes it?
 
The opponents don't seem familiar, so I had no reads to work off of.

$15/$30 Limit Omaha Hi/Lo
8 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG (<font color="#0000cc">$641.50</font>)
UTG+1 (<font color="#0000cc">$1446.00</font>)
MP1 (<font color="#0000cc">$588.50</font>)
MP2 (<font color="#0000cc">$2744.50</font>)
CO (<font color="#0000cc">$1300.50</font>)
BTN (<font color="#0000cc">$2234.50</font>)
Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$845.50</font>)
BB (<font color="#0000cc">$958.50</font>)

Pre-flop: ($45, 8 players) Hero is SB 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls $30, <font color="#777777">5 folds</font>, Hero calls $15, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $60</font>, UTG calls $30, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $90</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $120</font>, UTG calls $60, Hero calls $30

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($360, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $30</font>, BB calls $30, UTG calls $30

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($450, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $60</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $120</font>, UTG calls $120, Hero calls $60

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($810, 3 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $60</font>, UTG calls $60, <font color="#777777">Hero folds</font>

Final Pot: $930
BB shows: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG shows: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

BB wins $463.5 ( won +$133.5 )
UTG wins $463.5 ( won +$133.5 )
Hero lost -$270.00

Chump Change 11-24-2007 03:25 AM

Re: 30/60, who likes it?
 
Sweet christ this is definitely BBV worthy even if the tards don't understand what's going on.

donger 11-24-2007 04:43 AM

Re: 30/60, who likes it?
 
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Sweet christ this is definitely BBV worthy even if the tards don't understand what's going on.

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O RLY? It seems like everyone played their hands OK, given the pot size.

Big Dave D 11-24-2007 05:05 AM

Re: 30/60, who likes it?
 
Seems standard, although the cr pre is a tad excessive considering your position.

gl

bdd

TheChad 11-24-2007 11:09 AM

Re: 30/60, who likes it?
 
wow. gross. you were bent over here. I don't c/r pre and prob c/c turn. good fold.

prodonkey 11-24-2007 11:29 AM

Re: 30/60, who likes it?
 
I don't dig the limp reraise preflop.. I also hardly ever fold that river, pot is too big imo.

davebreal 11-24-2007 02:30 PM

Re: 30/60, who likes it?
 
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I also hardly ever fold that river, pot is too big imo

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overcalling 3-handed would be a crime.

WMB 11-24-2007 05:05 PM

Re: 30/60, who likes it?
 
Well played.

mike l. 11-24-2007 05:46 PM

Re: 30/60, who likes it?
 
c/r the flop. and dont list the results until after the thread is dead.

justhetip 11-24-2007 07:16 PM

Re: 30/60, who likes it?
 
I'd raise the turn but it is an amazing hand

Chump Change 11-24-2007 08:32 PM

Re: 30/60, who likes it?
 
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Sweet christ this is definitely BBV worthy even if the tards don't understand what's going on.

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O RLY? It seems like everyone played their hands OK, given the pot size.

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YA RLY

I didn't say the villains played bad, necessarily, just that it was a crazy hand.

prodonkey 11-24-2007 11:35 PM

Re: 30/60, who likes it?
 
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I also hardly ever fold that river, pot is too big imo

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overcalling 3-handed would be a crime.

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you'll call 4 bets on a flop with an overpair in the one thread, but don't like overcalling here with the nut flush? I don't get it.

I'd disregard the guy calling most of the time, unless he's the type that will just call with a boat to get an overcall.

MegaDisgruntled 11-25-2007 05:43 AM

Re: 30/60, who likes it?
 
what's wrong dave, 12 tabling at pl/nl not enough games for you?

Mega

Borys313 11-27-2007 06:23 AM

Re: 30/60, who likes it?
 
Folding the river is criminal, given pot size.
I can see easily here top 2, no nut flushes etc.

The fact there was boat out there means nothing, just like being result oriented.

Not to mention the fact that folding and seeing you are wrong can make one go ballistic.

rando 11-27-2007 12:27 PM

Re: 30/60, who likes it?
 
I don't like the c/r pre, but the rest is fine, including the river laydown... your gut must not have been silent even if your reads weren't pre-formed. Wondering what went through your mind on the turn call, something like "this could be trouble??" I mean you've got to call that spot, but you probably didn't see your EV being much in the black.

2handed 11-28-2007 03:21 AM

Re: 30/60, who likes it?
 
Just wondering how much stronger you would want your hand to be to 3bet the turn? Would making the 5 a 3 be enough? It seems like with that third player in the pot we are close to strong enough to jam here. It would be good for image as well.

davebreal 11-28-2007 04:13 AM

Re: 30/60, who likes it?
 
when the actual hand was occuring i don't think i new that i backed into a decent low draw also, i was just looking for a non-pairing club. looking at the hand now, my 25 low draw is typically going to be the best one out there on the turn if it's only 3-handed.

i kinda picked up some timing tells during the hand also, which influenced my actions. BB snap-raised and UTG snap-called, so I was certain that I was up against a made straight or top-two.

looking back on the hand, it's hard to believe how awful BB is.


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