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shaundeeb 11-25-2007 08:21 PM

Aces up early in 2nd chance
 
I got my stack with QQ>JJ

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP3 (t3080)
CO (t3225)
Button (t2210)
SB (t5330)
BB (t1285)
UTG (t1205)
UTG+1 (t2565)
Hero (t7335)
MP2 (t2975)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls t150, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls t125, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t500) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: (t500) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t400</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1300</font>, CO folds, SB calls t900.

River: (t3100) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t3880 (All-In)</font>, hero...


he snapcalled the turn

mikeJ 11-25-2007 08:27 PM

Re: Aces up early in 2nd chance
 
Why the flop check?

As played, idk, I seem to be bad @ judging how often people show up w/ strangely played stuff, like Ax/KJ/worse two pair in this spot. I prob fold tho.

If he was @ all decent, I'd say it's a pretty easy fold.

Mench 11-25-2007 08:51 PM

Re: Aces up early in 2nd chance
 
i cant see him snapping the turn with a hand that he will happily turn into a bluff on the river..think its a fold and feel fine.

shaundeeb 11-25-2007 08:56 PM

Re: Aces up early in 2nd chance
 
mike anyone decent prob isn't taking this line with a fd they prob 3bet shove or fold the turn.

Todd Terry 11-25-2007 09:17 PM

Re: Aces up early in 2nd chance
 
I don't think a flush is very worrisome here, I don't see a bet into two people followed by a call on the turn. Your hand looks like TPTK+ on the turn, and then he jams when the K hits, which easily could have given you 2 pair, tells me he has AQ beat. A set of some sort, AK, or maybe the same hand looks like his range to me, fold. Whatever he has he didn't play it very well, but it's hard to see you being good here.

Requin 11-25-2007 09:22 PM

Re: Aces up early in 2nd chance
 
[ QUOTE ]
mike anyone decent prob isn't taking this line with a fd they prob 3bet shove or fold the turn.

[/ QUOTE ]He probably had the NFD or the Qhi draw

clarkatroid 11-25-2007 09:28 PM

Re: Aces up early in 2nd chance
 
this is a definate fold imo.
set or flush. but im prolly ruling out a set as 33 and 88 mostly re-raises your turn bet to protect against the appearing draws.
everything points to an ace flush , maybe ace jack / ace ten spades. this is consistant with his snap turn call. smaller flushes are more unlikely as i think they dont come out betting the turn to a raisers flop.

with the flop checked around, he prolly feels his top pair and nut draw are worth 400,

blopp 11-25-2007 09:40 PM

Re: Aces up early in 2nd chance
 
Puke and fold, why are you checking flop? Is co really aggressive? Waking up on turn looks so strong.

Eagles 11-25-2007 10:57 PM

Re: Aces up early in 2nd chance
 
River is an easy fold.... flop check is real bad and makes no sense

KneeCo 11-26-2007 12:52 AM

Re: Aces up early in 2nd chance
 
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Why the flop check?

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erocplayer 11-26-2007 01:01 AM

Re: Aces up early in 2nd chance
 
i think you need to bet the flop.
from my experience the snap call (unless from a superfish)
does NOT mean strength--it usually means "im too proud to fold and my hands too weak to RR.
It could def. be KQ imo, but flush is in the villian's range.

i probably call even though (in reality i think a fold is the right choice most times) and feel awesome if i win and beat myself up if i lose. (however, i do not play the HSMTT, i play ssmtt, just found myself browsing this forum--b/c i play the ssmtt, my thoughts may not be appropriate to this forum.

Ship Ship McGipp 11-26-2007 01:29 AM

Re: Aces up early in 2nd chance
 
the flop check is so gross i think a little piece of me just died

TheNewf 11-26-2007 01:35 AM

Re: Aces up early in 2nd chance
 
seems like a fold, you know how I feel about flop

Pudge714 11-26-2007 02:41 AM

Re: Aces up early in 2nd chance
 
+1 for flop check.
I think you should raise a little more on the turn to make river a little easier. As played I tilt call because I was stupid enough to check the flop.

fslexcduck 11-26-2007 02:46 AM

Re: Aces up early in 2nd chance
 
calling here would be spewier than my dog right now who is very very sick its really sad shes blowing chunks everywhere guys

ChipRick 11-27-2007 12:00 AM

Re: Aces up early in 2nd chance
 
fold, you really beat very little, dont like the flop check seems a perfect time to bet...i might raise a little more on the turn but thats the worse river card so i drop it on the river

shaundeeb 11-27-2007 12:51 AM

Re: Aces up early in 2nd chance
 
well I called obv he didn't have spades I lost anyway stupid poker.

JSchnett 11-27-2007 02:14 AM

Re: Aces up early in 2nd chance
 
bet flop as played fold river. not much else to say.

omg im l337 11-27-2007 03:39 AM

Re: Aces up early in 2nd chance
 
Ugh, I hate hands like that. I would cbet the floop and fold the river shaun

WarDekar 11-27-2007 04:38 AM

Re: Aces up early in 2nd chance
 
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well I called obv he didn't have spades I lost anyway stupid poker.

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Did the weed make you butcher this hand? Might be relevant for MTTc


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