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tarheeljks 07-03-2007 07:15 PM

Beat: beckham over LT?
 
these fools on espn just voted in favor of beckham 2:1. i love soccer but this ridiculous.

sightless 07-03-2007 07:30 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=1&fpart=1

whats ridculous?
Beckham is bigger superstar right now than LT

Butcho22 07-03-2007 07:35 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
Can we just not talk about this stupid [censored] tournament anymore?

tarheeljks 07-03-2007 07:39 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=1&fpart=1

whats ridculous?
Beckham is bigger superstar right now than LT

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not in america.

sightless 07-03-2007 07:40 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=1&fpart=1

whats ridculous?
Beckham is bigger superstar right now than LT

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not in america.

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dont you think more people know Beckham than LT in US?

BillNye 07-03-2007 07:56 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=1&fpart=1

whats ridculous?
Beckham is bigger superstar right now than LT

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not in america.

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dont you think more people know Beckham than LT in US?

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I dont think you know what America is, I bet more people know LT than Beckham 10 : 1.

New001 07-03-2007 08:01 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=1&fpart=1

whats ridculous?
Beckham is bigger superstar right now than LT

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not in america.

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dont you think more people know Beckham than LT in US?

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I dont think you know what America is, I bet more people know LT than Beckham 10 : 1.


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Including women? It's a stretch even not including them, and it's definitely not 10:1.

THAY3R 07-03-2007 08:04 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
Newsflash :

Football players wear helmets.

sightless 07-03-2007 08:20 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=1&fpart=1

whats ridculous?
Beckham is bigger superstar right now than LT

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not in america.

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dont you think more people know Beckham than LT in US?

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I dont think you know what America is, I bet more people know LT than Beckham 10 : 1.


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you ask an ordinary American to name a soccer player, their answer will be Beckham.
You ask an ordinary american who LT is alot of them wont know

Pudge714 07-03-2007 08:25 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
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Newsflash :

This is the stupidest contest ever and is based and incredibly random stuff.

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MicroBob 07-03-2007 08:40 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
1 - Why should anyone care? This is the first time I've seen their Who's Now segment and I was impressed with how stupid it was.

2 - If I asked my Mom, sister and GF who David Beckham is ALL of them would know he's some good looking soccer star from England (and I think all might know that he's coming to the U.S.)
None of them would have any clue who LT is.

BillNye 07-03-2007 08:54 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=1&fpart=1

whats ridculous?
Beckham is bigger superstar right now than LT

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not in america.

[/ QUOTE ]

dont you think more people know Beckham than LT in US?

[/ QUOTE ]

I dont think you know what America is, I bet more people know LT than Beckham 10 : 1.


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you ask an ordinary American to name a soccer player, their answer will be Beckham.
You ask an ordinary american who LT is alot of them wont know

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Agreed, but thats because the only soccer player people know is Beckham.

If you asked every person in America, do you who LT is? do you know who Beckham is?

LT would win by a landslide. Im so absolutely 100% on this.

Lets assume most old people know neither, middle aged would tend to know LT as Americans, young adults wouldm most likely know both, and and kids would really work in LT's favor.

sightless 07-03-2007 09:04 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
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LT would win by a landslide. Im so absolutely 100% on this.

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Well lets agree to disagree

ThaSaltCracka 07-03-2007 09:04 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
If you asked who LT was, most people would say Lawrence Taylor.

Beckham is way bigger than LT and the fact that him and Dinho are ranked 7th and 6th respectively in their brackets shows how stupid ESPN is.

Vyse 07-03-2007 09:06 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
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Beckham is way bigger than LT

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Not in US

ThaSaltCracka 07-03-2007 09:11 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
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Beckham is way bigger than LT

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Not in US

[/ QUOTE ]GTFO. Why do you people consistently think people in the US don't care about soccer? You guys can vote against him, but by the end of the summer all we will be hearing about is Beckham and you can take that to the bank.

moayer 07-03-2007 09:18 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
[ QUOTE ]
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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=1&fpart=1

whats ridculous?
Beckham is bigger superstar right now than LT

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not in america.

[/ QUOTE ]

dont you think more people know Beckham than LT in US?

[/ QUOTE ]

I dont think you know what America is, I bet more people know LT than Beckham 10 : 1.


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not even close to the truth.

Vyse 07-03-2007 09:19 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
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[Why do you people consistently think people in the US don't care about soccer?

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Because we don't...

Ponies 07-03-2007 09:24 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
Is this guy really getting 5/250 to play soccer here?
5/25 is more than enough because no ones gonna watch him play....

wisehandpoker 07-03-2007 09:39 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
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If you asked who LT was, most people would say Lawrence Taylor.

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I still think Lawrence taylor when you guys refer to ladanian as LT. Also, I couldn't tell you what the guy looks like. Bekham has more star power, which is what this idiotic contest seems to be focusing on.

ThaSaltCracka 07-03-2007 09:46 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
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Is this guy really getting 5/250 to play soccer here?
5/25 is more than enough because no ones gonna watch him play....

[/ QUOTE ] People in Asia are offering $500,000 to LA to have them play exhibition matches. Most stadiums in the US have seen serious spikes in ticket sales for LA Galaxy games. This guy is going to be very popular around the US. But thanks for your input.

Vyse 07-03-2007 09:48 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
link plz

ThaSaltCracka 07-03-2007 09:48 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
for what?

Victor 07-03-2007 09:58 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
even the usa im pretty sure beckham is more wellknown. only football fans know who ldt is. but beckham is a celebrity with a ton more crossover attention from marrying posh and having movies named after him. its really not close.

Vyse 07-03-2007 09:59 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
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Most stadiums in the US have seen serious spikes in ticket sales for LA Galaxy games. This guy is going to be very popular around the US.

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link proving this plzzzz

valenzuela 07-03-2007 10:12 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
who is LT?

ps: im not kidding

MicroBob 07-03-2007 10:37 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
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even the usa im pretty sure beckham is more wellknown. only football fans know who ldt is. but beckham is a celebrity with a ton more crossover attention from marrying posh and having movies named after him. its really not close.

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Victor - correct.
In the case of my GF, sister and mom I could even go so far as to say, "You know. LT is ladainian tomlinson. He's this amazing running-back for the San Diego Chargers who is the best player in the league and has been breaking all kinds of records for touchdowns and stuff" and they would STILL have no idea who the hell I was talking about.


If I said Peyton Manning or David Beckham they would immediately know who I was talking about without me needing to say anymore.

I would be willing to bet that my 91 year-old grandmother in West Virginia would be able to identify Beckham or Manning also and would have absolutely no clue who Tomlinson is.

Artdogg 07-03-2007 10:59 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
I LOVE LT BUT WHO GIVES A [censored] ABOUT THIS [censored]

Quadstriker 07-03-2007 11:17 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
Totally non-scientific experiment:

Do you know who _____ is?

Girlfriend on Beckham: "Yeah he's that football player. Soccer player." (Her mom was a brit, she still uses the two terms interchangably.)

Girlfriend on LT: "The name sounds familiar."

ThaSaltCracka 07-03-2007 11:29 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
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Most stadiums in the US have seen serious spikes in ticket sales for LA Galaxy games. This guy is going to be very popular around the US.

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link proving this plzzzz

[/ QUOTE ]Seriously, google Beckham ticket sales and you will find plenty of information. Stop being a lazy ass internet user.

Vyse 07-03-2007 11:30 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
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Most stadiums in the US have seen serious spikes in ticket sales for LA Galaxy games. This guy is going to be very popular around the US.

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link proving this plzzzz

[/ QUOTE ]Seriously, google Beckham ticket sales and you will find plenty of information. Stop being a lazy ass internet user.

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... yeah, thought so.

Person A: "[Claim] is going to happen! I got teh proofz!"
Person B: "Proof please."
Person A: "Find it yourself nubz"

lololol

ThaSaltCracka 07-03-2007 11:34 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
http://www.google.com/search?q=Beckh...s&ie=UTF-8


look yourself jackass.

Vyse 07-03-2007 11:37 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
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... yeah, thought so.

Person A: "[Claim] is going to happen! I got teh proofz!"
Person B: "Proof please."
Person A: "Find it yourself nubz"

lololol

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ThaSaltCracka 07-03-2007 11:38 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
BTW, the Galaxy already have two exhibition games scheduled, one with Chelsea(one of the biggest clubs currently in the world) and one with Sydney FC in Australia.

ThaSaltCracka 07-03-2007 11:38 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
Vyse you really are a [censored] poster.

Vyse 07-03-2007 11:39 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
lol @ how mad this guy is getting because i asked him for links to prove the point he hails as a fact

ThaSaltCracka 07-03-2007 11:49 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...062601767.html

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...s.382ad41.html

http://www.oursportscentral.com/serv...es/?id=3497454

Really, you should try looking around yourself. This is all pretty easy to find.

Vyse 07-03-2007 11:52 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
you do realize it was your point, right?

if this is the extent of it, you need to do way more to convince anyone beckham is suddenly going to enhance soccer's image. ("This guy is going to be very popular around the US.") That means galaxy season tickets, MLS getting bigger, etc. that isn't proved due to some friendlies selling out...

ThaSaltCracka 07-03-2007 11:58 PM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
Vyse, you do sound like a lazy ass. Did you ever learn anything on your own? Or does everything have to be taught to you?

The fact is the Galaxy currently have the highest attendance in MLS, and they are [censored]. The sole reason for them having the highest attendance in the league is because of Beckham's arrival. They sold an ass load of season tickets before the season started. Teams around the league are expecting sellouts when the Galaxy come to town. The only exception are teams playing in Football stadiums because there is no way 60,000 are going to watch the Galaxy.

During the summer, the Rose Bowl was sold out for Chivas vs. Barcelona. Reliant Stadium was sold out for Club America vs. Barcelona. U of Phoenix was sold out earlier this year for US vs. Mexico (in a friendly).

Vyse 07-04-2007 12:07 AM

Re: Beat: beckham over LT?
 
Are you seriosuly this dense? No, seriously. Did you let me egg you on that badly that you lost all logic, too? It's simple:

1. Soccer in America = obscure.

2. By extension, MLS = obscure.

3. Your claim = Beckham dramatically increases soccer's popularity.

4. Since your claim is not common knowledge, and since soccer has been a failure in the US for a long time, you have to prove your claim.

lol @ you trying to say "omg you're so lazy i dun even have to prove my claim!"


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