50NL: BSB 99 call down
 

I steal about 30-40%. Usually in the higher percentile than the lower (sometimes I dip to 20% but that's been rare lately).

was stealing >34% here. Should I be calling flop+turn?

Villian had TAG stats, no idea what he was running at exactly. Also, its his 1st reraise.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $27.60
Hero (BTN): $52.05
SB: $49.05
BB: $56.60
UTG: $49.50
MP: $182.95

Pre-Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, CO calls $0.50, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.25</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $8.50</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $6.25

Flop: ($17.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $14</font>, Hero calls $14

Turn: ($45.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $34.10 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $29.55 and is All-In

Re: 50NL: BSB 99 call down
 

You're crazy man!

If you're going to call pf, do so for set value. If you're not prepared to let go of hand on this flop, bump it.

Re: 50NL: BSB 99 call down
 

my bad, didn't mean to leave results in. Could you chagne your post above plz? I just want to see if anyone likes this.

Re: 50NL: BSB 99 call down
 

yuck man what hand do you put him on? If he flipped AK/77 you got lucky. this is just spew imo, even if you thinks you haz an image, you beat a very small portion of his range imo.

Re: 50NL: BSB 99 call down
 

I'm 42% versus AK/QQ+, and 56% versus AQ+/QQ+.

I think I played with you yesterday AZ. Either yesterday or the day before.

Re: 50NL: BSB 99 call down
 

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I'm 42% versus AK/QQ+, and 56% versus AQ+/QQ+.

I think I played with you yesterday AZ. Either yesterday or the day before.

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I think you should broaden those two ranges to JJ+/AK(conservative) and TT+/AQ+(loose) and stove them again.

And then you should stove them pf...

You were obviously prepared to play for stacks here so calling the flop was shocking. You were giving AQ/AK a look at the turn/river cards. If you want to be a kamikaze and play for stacks you have to raise this flop and be happy to get it a all-in there.

Re: 50NL: BSB 99 call down
 

This is gross with no history. Few uNL tagfish have the balls to double barrel a whiff in a 3bet pot like this, especially when it's the first 3bet pot he's played with you.

Re: 50NL: BSB 99 call down
 

muck preflop?

Re: 50NL: BSB 99 call down
 

JJ/AQ+ I'm 50/50. The JJ/AK range fwiw doesn't make sense to me so I didn't put it in.

traz: yeah thats the other line I'd take.

Re: 50NL: BSB 99 call down
 

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muck preflop!!

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Re: 50NL: BSB 99 call down
 

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JJ/AQ+ I'm 50/50. The JJ/AK range fwiw doesn't make sense to me so I didn't put it in.

traz: yeah thats the other line I'd take.

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When I get 3bet pf my immediate thoughts are JJ+/AK. I then think about whether villan is likely to be any looser than this which I'd assume you were thinking here seeing the history with you stealing blinds.

If you are going to include AQ in his range pf then you have to also include JJ/TT IMO... Keeping in mind this is the first time he has done this.

...And its fair to assume this range stands up on the flop as he's all but obliged to bet this board following pf action...

You just have to ask yourself if AQ/AK is shoving this turn. If I were making this play from villans seat then this is where I give up with these hands and shove TT+ agaist someone who I think is fooling.

Maybe you got lucky this time but in the long term I think your spewing out all the hard earned chips you'd been making by stealing blinds.

Re: 50NL: BSB 99 call down
 

Schiester,

If he's shoving AK unimproved he's shoving AQ too, and if he's reraising JJ he's likely reraised AQ as well. So thats why I don't believe in an AK/JJ+ range unless ur trying to filter for the times he decides not to bluff with AQ or AK.
I don't think he'd giveup with exactly AQ but shove with exactly AK as a bluff. He either decides whether he should bluff here or not and then will or won't do it.

He's not shoving TT on the turn unless he's insane. JJ is hard to push there too, and I really think QQ checks that turn some %age of the time.

Re: 50NL: BSB 99 call down
 

To me, the 3-bet by a TAG in the BB seems like a pocket pair, AK, or AQ. The turn bet mostly eliminates AK and AQ, as well as 22, 33, and 44. That means you're ahead of only 77 and 88 while behind 55, TT, JJ, QQ, KK, AA plus the unlikely 66 (and tied with the 99). That means you need roughly 7-to-2 pot odds to feel good about the all-in on the turn (but you only had 5-to-2 to call).

Also, it's not a good situation for set mining with 99 because the 3-bet is more than 10% of your stack. However, I don't mind the call of the 3-bet so much if you plan to bet a checked flop while folding to any further action from villain.

Re: 50NL: BSB 99 call down
 

As played I would call the flop and probably fold the turn. He is a tag, not a maniac. He has to be pretty ballsy/stupid to double barrel this turn with AK. Does he have reason to think you can fold an overpair here?