FGators, this is how your PokerEV graph should look
 

My first full week of HU sessions here. Granted, 7k hands is not 1.6 million, but I think we can already see a trend surfacing. (And I actually ran bad!)

http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/9...vgraph1lc9.jpg

http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/9...vgraph2vw0.jpg

FGators, I urge you to compare my "green line" graph to your "green line" graph. Let me know if you spot the differences. And if you still think you play well and you're just unlucky after these, well, there's nothing more I can tell you.

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meh, its pretty easy to be positive in non showdown winnings in HU.

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[ ] this'll show him

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Whats with the softball?

FGators will/should just say that comparing EV graphs of HU play and 6 max play is like comparing apples and brickettes of coal.

Because it is basically the truth.

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meh, its pretty easy to be positive in non showdown winnings in HU.

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Well, if you play well it is

It's not if you give up every pot at the first sign of resistance and try to take every hand to showdown as cheaply as possible

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Whats with the softball?

FGators will/should just say that comparing EV graphs of HU play and 6 max play is like comparing apples and brickettes of coal.

Because it is basically the truth.

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If you want to retitle the thread "LOOK HOW MUCH MONEY I MADE EVEN WHEN I RAN BAD" in your mind, that's fine with me

I took a suggestion from someone that posting "FGators" in the title would result in a better thread

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meh, its pretty easy to be positive in non showdown winnings in HU.

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Well, if you play well it is

It's not if you give up every pot at the first sign of resistance and try to take every hand to showdown as cheaply as possible

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haha ya, i mean youre obviously way better than fgators.

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I hate those check boxes, but can't resist. My first ever check box post.

[x] Showing off that Nath is a superior player
[x] HU money is made mostly from non-showdowns
[ ] Play 6-max and post the graph
[ ] FGators cares

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Obviously these are not the same games and this is easy to dismiss as any serious criticism, but the fact that mine is the complete freakin opposite of his is hilarious imo

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Obviously these are not the same games and this is easy to dismiss as any serious criticism, but the fact that mine is the complete freakin opposite of his is hilarious imo

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well that makes one of us.

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making fun of fgators is soooooooooooooooo yesterday

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nath > fgators

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nath > fgators

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no kiddin > no kiddin

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a REAL pokerev graph [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

This was my July...and it was from full ring (showing that green can be > blue at any level) [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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the fact that mine is the complete freakin opposite of his is hilarious imo

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iyo

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HU whatever limit nath plays is extremely different to 6 max 1/2. Let's not exaggerate here - there's no reason for FGators' green line to be anywhere near the same as his red and blue lines. I haven't played 1/2 on Stars but in a game where you make most of your money by showing down winning hands against retards, most of your winnings will obv come from showdown. However at a bare minimum the green line ought to be halfway between the x-axis and the red and blue lines, unless the game is flat out insane.

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the fact that mine is the complete freakin opposite of his is hilarious imo

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iyo

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look, fine, this isn't the most awesome thread i've ever posted

and kotkis' graph is a better example of this than mine

but maybe, just maybe, fgators will look at this and think "hmm, maybe i'm NOT doing everything right. maybe i CAN win more without showdown. maybe i'll stop deluding myself."

and if even that fails, hey, brag: i had a sweet first week playing HU and nothing else!

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the fact that mine is the complete freakin opposite of his is hilarious imo

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iyo

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look, fine, this isn't the most awesome thread i've ever posted

and kotkis' graph is a better example of this than mine

but maybe, just maybe, fgators will look at this and think "hmm, maybe i'm NOT doing everything right. maybe i CAN win more without showdown. maybe i'll stop deluding myself."

and if even that fails, hey, brag: i had a sweet first week playing HU and nothing else!

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iyo

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lol wtf like 2 minutes ago anything posted that bashed fgators was SOLID GOLD around here

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the fact that mine is the complete freakin opposite of his is hilarious imo

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iyo

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look, fine, this isn't the most awesome thread i've ever posted

and kotkis' graph is a better example of this than mine

but maybe, just maybe, fgators will look at this and think "hmm, maybe i'm NOT doing everything right. maybe i CAN win more without showdown. maybe i'll stop deluding myself."

and if even that fails, hey, brag: i had a sweet first week playing HU and nothing else!

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iyo

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the fact that mine is the complete freakin opposite of his is hilarious imo

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iyo

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look, fine, this isn't the most awesome thread i've ever posted

and kotkis' graph is a better example of this than mine

but maybe, just maybe, fgators will look at this and think "hmm, maybe i'm NOT doing everything right. maybe i CAN win more without showdown. maybe i'll stop deluding myself."

and if even that fails, hey, brag: i had a sweet first week playing HU and nothing else!

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iyo

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http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5729/hateradekm7.gif

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i don't drink that stuff imo

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I play 6max, and here is mine for this month
note: this includes a few tilt session, my blue line is usually >0
but at least the green line is above blue
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7...nthluckoo7.jpg

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nath ~ fgators

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nath ~ fgators

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I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE
LOLZ

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op thats not running even close to bad

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2171/54473029tv4.jpg

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op thats not running even close to bad

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it's pretty goddamn bad for its sample size

like, i'm not pretending this is the greatest graph on earth. and it's pretty awesome how you guys swing dicks on the internet. i'm just saying, oh look, winning pots without showdown might be important to the ol' profit margin.

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nath what stakes are ur graphs at? unless its at nl 100 or lower would u mind explaining to me how thats possibly running bad?

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this has nothing to do with anything.

HU isn't the same as 6max.

does a 50/35 game work in 6 max?

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this has nothing to do with anything.

HU isn't the same as 6max.

does a 50/35 game work in 6 max?

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shut up, you dont sound smart at all.

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nath what stakes are ur graphs at? unless its at nl 100 or lower would u mind explaining to me how thats possibly running bad?

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the blue line is below the red line, to the tune of 20% of my net winnings, therefore i ran bad

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what stakes is that at? if its like just a few buyins, get real thats not bad

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this has nothing to do with anything.

HU isn't the same as 6max.

does a 50/35 game work in 6 max?

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shut up, you dont sound smart at all.

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you don't need to be smart to know that a 6max equity graph is gonna look alot different to a HU graph

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yeah ur right, a HU equity graph should have even worse variance, which means hes even further from running bad

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this has nothing to do with anything.

HU isn't the same as 6max.

does a 50/35 game work in 6 max?

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shut up, you dont sound smart at all.

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you don't need to be smart to know that a 6max equity graph is gonna look alot different to a HU graph

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actually, you do

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FYP

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44 thousand hands. i guess this means i suck? mostly 6max, about 20% full ring. 95% at 1/2, 5% at 2/4.

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1922/eviq2.jpg

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Are people this retarded? At lower stakes 6-max, how in the **** do you expect you green line to be higher than your blue line? You blowing people out of puts left and right? good luck with that. Obv a 5/10 + graph is gonna be different from a 1/2 and lower graph, and obv a HU graph is going to be different from a 6 max graph. and LOL at 7k hand HU graph, that means something......

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Are people this retarded? At lower stakes 6-max, how in the **** do you expect you green line to be higher than your blue line? You blowing people out of puts left and right? good luck with that. Obv a 5/10 + graph is gonna be different from a 1/2 and lower graph, and obv a HU graph is going to be different from a 6 max graph. and LOL at 7k hand HU graph, that means something......

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i'm not retarded [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

but thanx for answering my question