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suuuuuuper simple
Villain is surfdoc, 6 handed 40
villain raises utg I call in bb with Js9s Flop JKT I c/c Turn 9 I check he bets |
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I think you must have mis-typed the flop. It should read "flop JKT, I c/f."
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I really wanted to make a straight so I could c/c turn c/f river though. Instead I had to make two pair and do the same thing.
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maybe you're too good at poker
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I think he is checking that turn with AK, AJ, etc, but you should still call so that when you hit your 4 outer, you can lose 3 bets on river to his KK imo.
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HOWMANY do you think he checks behind AK, AA on that turn?
I havent played with you guys, but I think an argument can be made for you betting the turn with Qx so he should be valuebetting worse hands enough for you to c/c again. I end up c/c'ing both flop and turn here. And I hate myself when I c/c or c/f the river UI. |
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Well the river was an A at which point I c/f and then realized that the river made no difference and the place to c/f was the turn if not the flop. I think flop is somewhat close, I think turn is very unclose and calling is pretty moronic.
I wouldn't bet a Q here against surfdoc on the turn, I'd attempt to c/r and if he checked I would then attempt to c/r again on the river if board doesn't pair and b/f if it does and I'm pretty sure this is the correct and best line to take. |
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well then I agree about c/f turn.
Could you elaborate on why you would c/r turn with a Q? I would always bet here thinking he checks behind too often. But maybe I am underestimating how often he has a valuebet |
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If he does not put money into the pot himself on turn or river then I really don't see how he could call a bet in the first place. If he bets turn then I am guaranteed to put 2 bets in because he must call with two pair/set. If he checks two pair/set then he should certainly bet it on the river and because I'm the spazz I am I suspect I will gain 2 bets on the river. I do not think he should bet AA/AK on the turn because only bad things can happen (so obviously I should not call when he bets) and I do not think he should put another dollar into the pot with those hands so I'm not really worried about him checking them twice.
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kthx
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Bet the turn, c/f river. Folding the flop is dumb.
-Michael |
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Am i missing something? why did you call preflop, when surf raised UTG?
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It's 6 handed and we had just talked about raising A5s UTG 5 handed.
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Am i missing something? why did you call preflop, when surf raised UTG? [/ QUOTE ] Here is my range UTG 6 handed. equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 64.435% 63.87% 00.56% 717439848 6341036.00 { 66+, A7s+, K9s+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KJo+ } Hand 1: 35.565% 35.00% 00.56% 393149504 6341036.00 { J9s } |
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I'd just bet/fold the turn. AK/AT/AA is making a ftop mistake if it folds to your turn donk and folding to a raise is trivially easy.
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Ah 6-handed, i could have swore that wasn't there before. I like a Turn lead, probably B/F
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