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I just got back the ~9k I was down to greycat.

Check your cashiers.

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at first i thought i was short 8k but after recalculating i think i got everything i was cheated out of

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I got an email, but I don't see any funds xferred to my account.

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I got the email and a refund. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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i guess i never played any super users, sigh. i want some money back.

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I got an email, but I don't see any funds xferred to my account.

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George,

The suspect cheating accounts(that weve named) only played like 150/300 200/400 and 15/30 NL+...and a few tournies. Have you ever played that high? Or played tournies?

Edit- I have ZERO record of the refund in any part of my history...only know how much it was because I happened to check my cashier like 10 minutes beforehand

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Greycat, Steamroller, and Potripper were the ones that come to mind.

Speculation though is that they only cheated ~ the time of the 8.0 update....sooo mid aug or so

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I wish they told us which hand history's which players and more info so I could double check it with my PT. oh yeah, it would be nice if they also told us HOW MUCH. wtf mate

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I wish they told us which hand history's which players and more info so I could double check it with my PT. oh yeah, it would be nice if they also told us HOW MUCH. wtf mate

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yes both of these things are both sucky and sketchy.

I ONLY got money back from my losses against greycat. The other known cheat accounts I didnt play. The unkown cheat accounts I evidently didnt play either...but Ill bet they never realese the names/pay anyone for those.

As for the amount, I sent them a very angry email about that.

Its NOWHERE in my account history

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Just be happy the gave you money back....

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I still haven't received any funds...

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Scariest thing is that if the superuser guys had any clue about poker they would never have gotten caught.

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Scariest thing is that if the superuser guys had any clue about poker they would never have gotten caught.

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Thanks for that very original thought sir

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I was called by the VIP line and got 12k+ twice... However, I'm owed at least 31.5k just from HU play, and that doesnt account for money they [censored] me out of in non-HU play. I was very busy and had them reschedule another call for today. I did voice my concerns about being shorted and I will keep the community infomrmed as to what goes down on today's telephone call (assuming of course that they follow through and call).

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Anyone curious about the amount they refunded send them an email bitching about them not telling you, they actually respond fairly quick.

They were however low on mine. By ~100 bucks

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how do they calculate the total owed?

do they take total hands played against him, and use the won from/lost to net figure to pay out?


it has potential for people who played relatively few hands against him to get a great deal. win, you keep your winnings. lose, you get your losses back. :O

if they do it session by session, it's even better still.

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I was very busy and had them reschedule another call for today. I did voice my concerns about being shorted and I will keep the community infomrmed as to what goes down on today's telephone call (assuming of course that they follow through and call).

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They didnt call back as promised

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how do they calculate the total owed?

do they take total hands played against him, and use the won from/lost to net figure to pay out?


it has potential for people who played relatively few hands against him to get a great deal. win, you keep your winnings. lose, you get your losses back. :O

if they do it session by session, it's even better still.

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I only had that one session against him so I couldnt tell you how they are doing it.

However, if you did actually beat a cheating player it SHOULD be total losses imo, since they were freerolling you

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I was very busy and had them reschedule another call for today. I did voice my concerns about being shorted and I will keep the community infomrmed as to what goes down on today's telephone call (assuming of course that they follow through and call).

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They didnt call back as promised

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This suprises you?

They also didnt return two promised calls from me

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Can anyone tell me teh specific accounts they are giving back that people have lost to (besides GRAYCAT)

Specifically, has anyone gotten a refund for STEAMROLLER

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Can anyone tell me teh specific accounts they are giving back that people have lost to (besides GRAYCAT)

Specifically, has anyone gotten a refund for STEAMROLLER

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They are specifically going to refund: Graycat, Steamroller, and Doubledrag insofar as cash games go. I was specifically told this on the phone (I asked exactly what names to look for)

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Can anyone tell me teh specific accounts they are giving back that people have lost to (besides GRAYCAT)

Specifically, has anyone gotten a refund for STEAMROLLER

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They are specifically going to refund: Graycat, Steamroller, and Doubledrag insofar as cash games go. I was specifically told this on the phone (I asked exactly what names to look for)

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They also said in an Official Statement that there were a few accounts cheating that we didnt name.

Seems they are now ignoring that though and no one seems to care.

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Can anyone tell me teh specific accounts they are giving back that people have lost to (besides GRAYCAT)

Specifically, has anyone gotten a refund for STEAMROLLER

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They are specifically going to refund: Graycat, Steamroller, and Doubledrag insofar as cash games go. I was specifically told this on the phone (I asked exactly what names to look for)

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They also said in an Official Statement that there were a few accounts cheating that we didnt name.

Seems they are now ignoring that though and no one seems to care.

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Agreed, how/who can we get to find out the other names?

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I have no idea. The whole thing has lost all of its momentum and will prob be under the rug shortly.

Ive been trying to speak to someone who actually can have an independant thought or two for a bit now and have had no luck. Sounds like youve had more, I guess pursue it with whoever youve been speaking to....push the issue of who the unknowns are.

I guess you could PM n82 or adanthar as those two seemed to be getting all kinds of inside info, however they have released very little of it.

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I don't know the other account names, sorry.

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thanks both of u for the info

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Got the email+refund. Nice

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I told them my refund was inadequate and recieved the following:

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Dear Kahntrutahn,

Thank you for contacting us.

Your email and case has been forwarded to a Management member that will
be personally taking care of your query. Kindly expect a call or a
reply to your email in the next 24 hours. Your patience and comprehension
is highly appreciated.



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I got the same.....LOL at saying your comprhension is highly appreciated.

How much did they short you? And are you sure its all from about mid aug on?

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short at least 8k, though I'll be pushing for more due to other circumstances

and yes, Im going from 8/16/07 forward as I won money off the cheating accounts prior to 8/16/07

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Gotcha, They are still ignoring my inquiries about me being only ~200 short. Good luck with your quest and plz keep us posted.

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No reply yet again....

Also, Gian at VegasPoker 24/7 is dodging my questions about promised promotions. The VIP program that was promised to be in place for Nov 1st has been "put aside" The 9% interest match for VIP elites, well, that question has been dodged, then completely ignored.

These [censored] are getting on my nerves. I'm about to join the hate campaign rather than a supporter of them making amends.