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1p0kerboy 10-21-2007 11:54 AM

Where do most of your profits come from?
 
EDIT: aggressive

Mr_Donktastic 10-21-2007 12:07 PM

Re: Where do most of your profits come from?
 
blackjack

GrandMelon 10-21-2007 12:08 PM

Re: Where do most of your profits come from?
 
hmmm...

toymach776 10-21-2007 12:17 PM

Re: Where do most of your profits come from?
 
slots

coordi 10-21-2007 12:39 PM

Re: Where do most of your profits come from?
 
AA

Landlord79 10-23-2007 09:30 AM

Re: Where do most of your profits come from?
 
Flopping the joint and having donks open pushing their stacks into you FTW!!!

ledders07 10-23-2007 09:35 AM

Re: Where do most of your profits come from?
 
i don't make any profit

AceCR9 10-23-2007 09:51 AM

Re: Where do most of your profits come from?
 
E. 1p0kerboy

RapidEvolution 10-23-2007 09:58 AM

Re: Where do most of your profits come from?
 
Bangkok.

GrandMelon 10-23-2007 10:10 AM

Re: Where do most of your profits come from?
 
expert 5/10 TAGs


Poker Stars, $5/$10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $378.85
BTN: $1,081
Hero (SB): $1,000
BB: $350
UTG: $369
UTG+1: $1,148
MP1: $1,260
MP2: $352

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG calls $10, 4 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $30</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $120</font>, 2 folds, BTN calls $90

Flop: ($260) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $170</font>, BTN calls $170

Turn: ($600) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $130</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $710 and is All-In</font>, BTN calls $580

River: ($2,020) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $2,020 Pot ($3 Rake)
BTN mucked T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and LOST (-$1,000 NET)
Hero showed J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a full house, Jacks full of Sixes) and WON $2,017 (+$1,017 NET)

chip-star 10-23-2007 10:21 AM

Re: Where do most of your profits come from?
 
AA vs KK preflop ?

effang 10-23-2007 10:32 AM

Re: Where do most of your profits come from?
 
[ QUOTE ]
expert 5/10 TAGs


Poker Stars, $5/$10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $378.85
BTN: $1,081
Hero (SB): $1,000
BB: $350
UTG: $369
UTG+1: $1,148
MP1: $1,260
MP2: $352

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG calls $10, 4 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $30</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $120</font>, 2 folds, BTN calls $90

Flop: ($260) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $170</font>, BTN calls $170

Turn: ($600) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $130</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $710 and is All-In</font>, BTN calls $580

River: ($2,020) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $2,020 Pot ($3 Rake)
BTN mucked T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and LOST (-$1,000 NET)
Hero showed J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a full house, Jacks full of Sixes) and WON $2,017 (+$1,017 NET)

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jesus.

ranka 10-23-2007 11:09 AM

Re: Where do most of your profits come from?
 
tilt

pattay 10-23-2007 11:30 AM

Re: Where do most of your profits come from?
 
FPP's

Mike Kelley 10-23-2007 11:39 AM

Re: Where do most of your profits come from?
 
I don't know if I've played enough hands to really know but

AA,KK - LDO
Sets
Fold Equity

in that order.

King Spew 10-23-2007 11:58 AM

Re: Where do most of your profits come from?
 
[x] all of the above FTW.

Seriously.... but of course you knew that.

Can't just target one group of villains to make a nut.

King Spew 10-23-2007 11:59 AM

Re: Where do most of your profits come from?
 
However upon reflection I will give my answer as:

[x] playing poker IP.... against anybody.

CalledDownLight 10-23-2007 12:33 PM

Re: Where do most of your profits come from?
 
Definitely FE out of these choices.

If any of you guys get it from people playing over aggressively then please please teach me.

Also, I'm pretty sure that "players giving too much action when the shouldn't" does not mean fish or donks. If he wanted people to respond with "fish" or "donks" then he would have made that a choice and it would have been a stupid pole question. Amirite pokerboy or is that really what you meant.

redlotus 10-23-2007 12:49 PM

Re: Where do most of your profits come from?
 
Kind of a tie between two of the choices. I win the most number of pots because of fold equity. A good sized PFR and then a 3/4P+ C-bet and the pot is mine. It's usually only a net profit of 5-6BB, but they add up.

The larger pots, however, come from people staying in too long. The fish I've recently started to call "flush bunnies." They'll call any PFR with two suited cards and fold if they don't hit the flush on the turn. Or they'll call AI bets on the river with a 7-high flush (of course this is when I'm holding the suited Ace or King and absolutely crush them).

I guess that I'd have to subtract all the times I've had to fold to a three-flush board. That means FE comes out on top.

futuredoc85 10-23-2007 01:33 PM

Re: Where do most of your profits come from?
 
aggression, hand reading and game selection in no particular order

1p0kerboy 10-23-2007 01:43 PM

Re: Where do most of your profits come from?
 
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If any of you guys get it from people playing over aggressively then please please teach me.

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Buy in for 20bb.

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Also, I'm pretty sure that "players giving too much action when the shouldn't" does not mean fish or donks.

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Maybe that is what I meant.

I was referring to players giving action when they shouldn't; i.e. playing big pots with small hands, etc.

seki 10-23-2007 01:44 PM

Re: Where do most of your profits come from?
 
profit?

toymach776 10-23-2007 01:58 PM

Re: Where do most of your profits come from?
 
lol

futuredoc85 10-23-2007 02:01 PM

Re: Where do most of your profits come from?
 
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Definitely FE out of these choices.

If any of you guys get it from people playing over aggressively then please please teach me.




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get a seat in position vs overaggro players, call down lighter, dont valuebet quite as thinly on any street since you will be getting c/r more.

Alpha 5.20 10-23-2007 02:26 PM

Re: Where do most of your profits come from?
 
1p0kerboy I've seen you playing half stacks the past few days, is this just an experiment or a big change in ur overall strategy? I'm doubtfull it leads to a better winrate on the long run at NL100. I think shortstackin to exploit the overagressive players is far easier in Omaha games. So have u noticed a difference on your winrate when u play full stack or half stack? I'm quite curious here.

Albert Moulton 10-23-2007 02:32 PM

Re: Where do most of your profits come from?
 
I play live. There, the answer is...

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Players giving too much action when they shouldn't.

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ActionStan 10-23-2007 02:33 PM

Re: Where do most of your profits come from?
 
limp/call/check/bet/fold - delicious.

Split Suit 10-23-2007 02:39 PM

Re: Where do most of your profits come from?
 
certainly not AA&gt;KK, being i havnt had one in my favor in the last 22K hands

CalledDownLight 10-23-2007 05:10 PM

Re: Where do most of your profits come from?
 
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If any of you guys get it from people playing over aggressively then please please teach me.

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Buy in for 20bb.

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Also, I'm pretty sure that "players giving too much action when the shouldn't" does not mean fish or donks.

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Maybe that is what I meant.

I was referring to players giving action when they shouldn't; i.e. playing big pots with small hands, etc.

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ok. Then I guess this is the obvious answer. I mean look at all the hands posted where people get stacks vs. stuff like Q high. If you take the money I've made with AA and KK and add it to the money I've made with any hands vs. people calling 2+ streets with high card then thats way over my overall profit. Maybe that means I suck, but people overplay stuff like J high all the time. I think this is a really stupid pole btw. Can anyone legitimately say that anything else is the right answer? I don't think there is a valid argument for any other choice.

five4suited 10-23-2007 07:00 PM

Re: Where do most of your profits come from?
 
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[x] all of the above FTW.

Seriously.... but of course you knew that.

Can't just target one group of villains to make a nut.

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I like this answer, because I don't target a single group of villains... and I choose to believe it because otherwise I just get paid by donks and suck at poker. (I downloaded PokerEV yesterday and the graphs confuse and mock me.)


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