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c/c, c/c, shove
Villain is 22/10/3 tagfish. Great to have at your table. stacks off light and is generally easy to read. I'm fairly confident that the only real hand that he has that beats me here is A5, but wondering what you guys thought.
Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter UTG: $36.75 MP: $281 CO: $245.95 BTN: $567.70 SB: $144.10 Hero (BB): $423.05 Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB) 4 folds, SB calls $1, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, SB calls $6 Flop: ($16) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players) SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $13</font>, SB calls $13 Turn: ($42) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $32</font>, SB calls $32 River: ($106) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">SB bets $91.10 and is All-In</font>, |
Re: c/c, c/c, shove
gross, why would he do this with less than 2pair
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easy easy fold.
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gross, why would he do this with less than 2pair [/ QUOTE ] uhh, the club draw missed |
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[ QUOTE ] gross, why would he do this with less than 2pair [/ QUOTE ] uhh, the club draw missed [/ QUOTE ] That's what I was thinking. It sure makes sense that he'd have missed his flush draw here. |
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snapcall?
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Folding seems right, but calling can't be bad. Getting 2:1, I probably find a call here.
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I'm fairly confident that the only real hand that he has that beats me here is A5 [/ QUOTE ] completely agree. I call here fo sho. |
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It's probably real close given the odds and your read.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] gross, why would he do this with less than 2pair [/ QUOTE ] uhh, the club draw missed [/ QUOTE ] That's what I was thinking. It sure makes sense that he'd have missed his flush draw here. [/ QUOTE ] his af is 3, but if you have a read that he plays draws passively, by all means, call. |
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i'd call this all day as well.
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you guys really think he's doing this with AJ?
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you guys really think he's doing this with AJ? [/ QUOTE ] i just don't know what he isn't raising sooner? |
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If he was 40/20 or something, I could find a call, but this is so rarely anything less than 2pair from a decentish player, this seems to be the standard line vs. aggro players who will fire 2 barrels w/ a lot of hands. This bet usually means: Glad you bet the two previous streets, now I can't allow you to check behind vs. my good hand.
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a) BvB
b) You have TPTK c) Only 2-pair+ hand he doesn't find a raise with earlier is A5, because 75s doesn't fit with the fact that the 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] is on the flop. a + b + c = call. |
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Nobody is considering that this could be AQ or a set slowplaying us? Villain's AF seems decently high, so it is uncharacteristic that he c/c so much with a draw. It seems stupid to neglect villain's AF for the c/c on the flop and turn but then justify that the river shove could be missed clubs by saying he has an AF of 3 and is therefore capable of such a bluff.
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Nobody is considering that this could be AQ or a set slowplaying us? Villain's AF seems decently high, so it is uncharacteristic that he c/c so much with a draw. It seems stupid to neglect villain's AF for the c/c on the flop and turn but then justify that the river shove could be missed clubs by saying he has an AF of 3 and is therefore capable of such a bluff. [/ QUOTE ] AQ or a pair would have raised PF not just limped from the SB. I would be wary of AT but I don't think that makes up enough of his range to justify a fold. I would expect a FD the most and likely call about 80% of the time. |
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weird line + BvB + read that he stacks off somewhat light + TPTK + getting more than 2:1 = call
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Call, but don't feel happy at all about it. Since he's a regular I think this is a real good time to make a VERY SLIGHTLY ev at worst call and make a note.
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I fold here, I just don't see what he could have that you beat. He could be weirdly playing two pair or better. I don't think the missed flush draw just open jams the river.
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Everytime I fold here they should have it but they end up showing me a bluff.
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[ QUOTE ] Nobody is considering that this could be AQ or a set slowplaying us? Villain's AF seems decently high, so it is uncharacteristic that he c/c so much with a draw. It seems stupid to neglect villain's AF for the c/c on the flop and turn but then justify that the river shove could be missed clubs by saying he has an AF of 3 and is therefore capable of such a bluff. [/ QUOTE ] AQ or a pair would have raised PF not just limped from the SB. I would be wary of AT but I don't think that makes up enough of his range to justify a fold. I would expect a FD the most and likely call about 80% of the time. [/ QUOTE ] Sorry, misread the preflop action - I was assuming a hero PFR and a villain call from the blinds. |
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