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SiyfkA 11-11-2007 03:35 PM

What to do if you suspect a player is cheating?
 
Heres the story, I was playing over at Pokerstars $0.25-$0.50 NL today and there was a player there that seemed to be playing every pot, calling every raise with rag hands like 82s, 73o/. But somehow he ended up winning about $100 over about 3 hours of play. After finally leaving after trying to beat this donk several times, I decided to check Pokertracker for his stats.

In 117 hands he never raised once preflop, but called a staggering 87.18%(!!) of the time. Flop AF was 0.27, Turn AF was 1.53 and River AF was 4.00. He won 44.34% of the time.

Am I being paranoid here? Is this kind of donk play common at these stakes and he just got lucky?

BalancePoint 11-11-2007 03:43 PM

Re: What to do if you suspect a player is cheating?
 
Probably just a lucky idiot.

Besides how could he be cheating?

Mase31683 11-11-2007 03:46 PM

Re: What to do if you suspect a player is cheating?
 
117 hands isn't many. There's lots of people out there playing like this. It can be frustrating to see them win, but he's a guarenteed loser in the long run if this is his normal style of play.

GinaSD 11-11-2007 04:44 PM

Re: What to do if you suspect a player is cheating?
 
Common.
Lucky.

The type of player I'd look for, and try to have at my table- time and again.

JereLock 11-11-2007 04:53 PM

Re: What to do if you suspect a player is cheating?
 
I'm fairly sure his showdown win% would be quite a bit higher than that too, given he could see hole cards or something

Xanthro 11-11-2007 05:41 PM

Re: What to do if you suspect a player is cheating?
 
Pretty standard. I even seen player who aren't horrible post flop with 75%+ VPIP.

Bad players and bad play can still get lucky and be up a significant amount over a short period of time.

BalancePoint 11-11-2007 05:47 PM

Re: What to do if you suspect a player is cheating?
 
Follow this player around

runout_mick 11-11-2007 06:02 PM

Re: What to do if you suspect a player is cheating?
 
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In 117 hands he never raised once preflop, but called a staggering 87.18%(!!) of the time. Flop AF was 0.27, Turn AF was 1.53 and River AF was 4.00. He won 44.34% of the time.

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Lol, I'm pretty sure my gf was at this table. She described this exact situation to me when I woke up.

See if JoRoLa was at your table.

Oh yeah, btw, she insta-buddylisted this dude.

choccypie 11-11-2007 08:59 PM

Re: What to do if you suspect a player is cheating?
 
If he was cheating, surely he'd go to higher stakes tables?

Most likely to be a donk running hot for a few hours.

tikipirate 11-12-2007 05:49 PM

Re: What to do if you suspect a player is cheating?
 
Most likely your typical passive donk who just was hitting hands left and right. These players are great, just make a note and look him up when he's cooled down.

allyasia 11-12-2007 05:55 PM

Re: What to do if you suspect a player is cheating?
 
ya, there are soo many on fulltilt as well

mikeca 11-12-2007 07:02 PM

Re: What to do if you suspect a player is cheating?
 
I play live low limits and I see players like this all the time. Many times they lose, but every once in a while they get hot and win big time. These are the fish. You have to feed the fish to keep them coming back. If they lost every time, they would give up poker.


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