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TIGERsrm 07-19-2007 12:46 PM

Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
This was recieved today. I had pre-ordered over a month ago.

"Dear Customer,

We wanted to give you an update on the status of your order [026-1184854-4715663].

Unfortunately, the release date for the item(s) listed below was changed by the supplier, and we
need to provide you with a new estimated delivery date based on the new release date:

Matt Flynn (Author), et al "Professional No-Limit Hold 'em: Volume
I: 1" [Paperback]
Estimated arrival date: 19/09/07 - 20/09/07

We are sorry for any inconvenience this causes."


WTF?? Another 2 months? I can't wait that long!

Can anyone let me know of the quickest possible way to get a copy shipped to the UK a.s.a.p. I dont care about cost. Can I order it direct from 2+2? How long will it take to reach me? Thanks guys.

Lottery Larry 07-19-2007 12:47 PM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
Check with conjelco.com

TIGERsrm 07-19-2007 01:10 PM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
I just tried to register with conjelco and recieved an error message stating that my e-mail address was already registered with them. I have definately not registered with them in the past and nobody can have the same e-mail as me so this is really bizarre.

Has anyone else had this problem? Are they related to 2+2 and therefore registering with 2+2 registers with them also? I will try to contact them now.

Splossy 07-19-2007 01:19 PM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
Highstakes bookshop?

dwf76 07-19-2007 01:39 PM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
Highstakes website is saying they won't have the book until the 30th. It's also £3 more and theres the p&p on top, but if Amazon don't get there act together they may be the best bet.

Professionalpoker 07-19-2007 01:44 PM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
2+2/Conjelco and my site are the fastest avenues.

Wubbie075 07-19-2007 01:46 PM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
Mason says they are ready to be shipped on the 20th here

Mason Malmuth 07-19-2007 02:23 PM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
I don't know who their supplier is but we have not changed any delivery dates to anyone.

Best wishes,
Mason

byronkincaid 07-19-2007 02:45 PM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
yeah I got the same email so I ordered from conjelco, the delivery charges to the UK seem to be very high though.

dirty banana2007 07-19-2007 04:57 PM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
i havent received any emails mentioning a delay to my order(i hope i am not tempting fate!), My account page is still showing the middle of next week as despatch date.

MadMat 07-19-2007 05:20 PM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
I've had no email, and my "My Account" page is still showing 23 Jul 2007 - 25 Jul 2007 as the estimated delivery date.

Maybe they've had more pre-orders than they anticipated and can't cover them all ?

Mat

TIGERsrm 07-19-2007 05:51 PM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
[ QUOTE ]
I've had no email, and my "My Account" page is still showing 23 Jul 2007 - 25 Jul 2007 as the estimated delivery date.

Maybe they've had more pre-orders than they anticipated and can't cover them all ?

Mat

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How long ago did you pre-order? I guess they will be giving priority to earliest orders but I ordered well over a month ago.

MadMat 07-19-2007 06:03 PM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
I ordered on 28th June

Mat

TIGERsrm 07-19-2007 06:10 PM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
Well I am very sure I ordered well before you so whatever policy amazon.co.uk are using, it aint fair! lol

Anyway I have now cancelled and ordered from Profpoker site, postage is pretty damn high but it'll be worth it.

Nthnuts 07-19-2007 08:45 PM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
Mike from PP sent an email saying he was shipping it tommorrow and I will have it in 2-4 business days
<3 Professional Poker [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

awjpoker 07-20-2007 08:05 AM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
I ordered mine from www.highstakes.co.uk they seem to be good for these more specialist books. They are based in London so if you live there you might be able to pick one up as sson as they get stock.

dwf76 07-21-2007 04:29 AM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
Got my email later then everyone else, sod Amazon i'll be giving professionalpoker.com a try.

dirty banana2007 07-21-2007 05:24 AM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
[ QUOTE ]
i havent received any emails mentioning a delay to my order(i hope i am not tempting fate!), My account page is still showing the middle of next week as despatch date.

[/ QUOTE ]


Me and me Big Mouth!! [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

My email of gloom arrived this morning. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

although perhaps they will send the books out sooner than the new date given!! I would be surprised if it took Amazon 2 months to get it in stock at their uk branch and deliver it. I know the book will have been heavily in demand, but the print run surely would have taken that into account!...besides, looking at the number of people cancelling their order and going to Highstakes means that i will be further up the list at amazon [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Lucky i have got Sam o'connors book still to read (and many other poker books lying unread to keep me going until they arrive [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img])

Starfish 07-21-2007 05:47 AM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
In Amazon, pre-orders will be handled last.

Mason Malmuth 07-21-2007 05:51 AM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
Hi banana:

While I don't know exactly, I'm sure Amazon.UK will get their books sooner than they are saying. My best guess is that even though we ship directly to Amazon.com and Amazon.Ca (Canada), Amazon.UK probably gets our books from either Ingrambooks or Baker & Taylor. These are two big wholesalers we deal with, and our shipments to them will go out no later than Wednesday. That means that at least one of these organizations will probably be shipping to Amazon.UK by the end of this month.

Best wishes,
Mason

dirty banana2007 07-21-2007 06:24 AM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
Hi Mason,

Thanks for that.

It was what i was thinking!
I've noticed the books i get through Amazon uk always arrive before the expected delivery date and i am confident this will again be the case.

dwf76 07-21-2007 06:50 AM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
I'm afraid I don't share the optimism with Amazon, they don't seem to be anywhere near as good lately.


Order Date: 12 Jun 2007

Items not yet dispatched:
Delivery estimate: 27 Jul 2007 - 4 Aug 2007 1 of: Your Worst Poker Enemy: Master the Mental Game
Sold by: Amazon EU S.a.r.L.

dirty banana2007 07-21-2007 07:11 AM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
maybe i'm just lucky.

i pre-ordered both the Sam Connor book and the full tilt one with Amazon.uk, and there was little if any delay.

Cloodie 07-21-2007 07:31 AM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
Been sitting here all smug reading folks Amazon emails but I've now received one myself. :-(

Normally I'd give them a chance as until recently I hadn't had any problems with them but I'm still waiting on the following book...

Order Date: 25 April 2007
Order #: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Recipient: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
View or change order
Items not yet dispatched:
Delivery estimate: 11 Jul 2007 - 27 Jul 2007

* 1 of: Blackjack for the 21st Century
Sold by: Amazon EU S.a.r.L.

gharp 07-21-2007 01:13 PM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
I got the same e-mail from amazon.com (USA) -- my estimated shipping date is "08/07/2007 - 08/14/2007". *sigh*

New York Jet 07-21-2007 01:31 PM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
[ QUOTE ]
I got the same e-mail from amazon.com (USA) -- my estimated shipping date is "08/07/2007 - 08/14/2007". *sigh*

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JohnG 07-21-2007 02:27 PM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
[ QUOTE ]
yeah I got the same email so I ordered from conjelco, the delivery charges to the UK seem to be very high though.

[/ QUOTE ]

They are high, but given the exchange rate, it still works out ok compared to waiting and buying from a uk shop.

MadMat 07-22-2007 10:40 AM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
ahh crap

We are sorry to report that the following items have been delayed:

Matt Flynn (Author), et al "Professional No-Limit Hold 'em: Volume
I: 1" [Paperback]
Estimated arrival date: 24/09/07 - 26/09/07


Whats the quickest way of getting a copy to the UK ??

Mat

SixT4 07-22-2007 11:05 AM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
[ QUOTE ]
ahh crap

We are sorry to report that the following items have been delayed:

Matt Flynn (Author), et al "Professional No-Limit Hold 'em: Volume
I: 1" [Paperback]
Estimated arrival date: 24/09/07 - 26/09/07


Whats the quickest way of getting a copy to the UK ??

Mat

[/ QUOTE ]

Conjelco. I got The Mathematics of Poker from them when it was released. Shipping costs quite a bit though.

Todpullen 07-22-2007 02:59 PM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
[ QUOTE ]
I ordered mine from www.highstakes.co.uk they seem to be good for these more specialist books. They are based in London so if you live there you might be able to pick one up as sson as they get stock.

[/ QUOTE ]

I can recommend highstakes.co.uk as well - amazon.co.uk have been pretty bad lately for me especially for poker books - books suddenly out of stock, not available etc. Highstakes have bailed me out when amazon let me down.

If anyone in the UK is willing to wait until the end of the month (when highstakes say they will have PNL) you can probably save a bit on the shipping cf. ordering from the US .

I am just a satisfied customer by the way, I have no affiliation with any booksellers!

dirty banana2007 07-22-2007 03:48 PM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
I think the service from Highstakes is excellent. The orders are always sent the next working day if the books are in stock, so there is very little wait between ordering time and delivery, and they are always happy to stay open a little later if customers want to pop in and have a look around.

However, I am sticking with Amazon.uk on this purchase because,

A) i havent had any problems previously with orders through them. (including pre-orders, and i have faith that Mason will make sure the books are sent out to the suppliers asap, unlike other publishers!)

B) i am in no rush at the moment for PNL & the SNG book as i have other books i am reading through first, so it isnt costing me anything in missed reading time.

C) I play mainly limit online, and barely play no limit as my standard is poor, therefore waiting a little bit longer isnt going to cost me anything at the tables! (especially given that my opponents are unlikely to either have read it or understood it completely either).

D) I paid for the books using a free voucher earned as part of a cleared bonus!! which along with the free delivery means that i am happy to wait a bit longer if i have too, because it's not costing me anything!!

and finally....

E) Given how many people are threatening to drop amazon and go through other sources, it makes it all the more possible i will move up through the pecking order for deliveries!!, recieving it quicker than the new expected date given by Amazon...and the other sources will suffer a supply crunch!!

Regardless of how and when we get our copies, i am sure we will all think it worthwhile [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

MadMat 07-22-2007 07:07 PM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
Wow just looked into the US options! does it really cost up to $60 to ship a book!

Mat

CasinoR7 07-22-2007 07:14 PM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
I ordered it together with 17 other books on amazon for only $7.70 shipping charges per book. From the Netherlands that is cheaper and faster than buying the books in euros with only €2 shipping charges for the whole package.

Professionalpoker 07-22-2007 09:41 PM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
[ QUOTE ]
Wow just looked into the US options! does it really cost up to $60 to ship a book!

Mat

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$14-$60 - After the £ to $ conversion its cheap!

Buconero 07-23-2007 12:00 PM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
I ordered my copy of PNLH from ProfessionalPoker and it was delivered today here in London. Speedy service!

shinigami 07-23-2007 12:31 PM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Wow just looked into the US options! does it really cost up to $60 to ship a book!

Mat

[/ QUOTE ]

$14-$60 - After the £ to $ conversion its cheap!

[/ QUOTE ]
Priority Mail International - $25.86

can't you use the "Priority Mail Flat Rate Envelope"? it would divide price by 2 for same speed of delivery.

RepulseMonkey 07-23-2007 12:48 PM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
Just looked at your shipping rates to the UK

Global Express Guaranteed - $57.86

Express Mail International (EMS) - $36.61

Priority Mail International - $25.86

First-Class Mail International - $13.86

What am I looking at timewise for each option ?

Buconero 07-23-2007 01:52 PM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
[ QUOTE ]
Just looked at your shipping rates to the UK

Global Express Guaranteed - $57.86

Express Mail International (EMS) - $36.61

Priority Mail International - $25.86

First-Class Mail International - $13.86

What am I looking at timewise for each option ?

[/ QUOTE ]

I chose the EMS ($36) option and obviously it took 3 days including a weekend.

sethypooh21 07-23-2007 03:31 PM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I got the same e-mail from amazon.com (USA) -- my estimated shipping date is "08/07/2007 - 08/14/2007". *sigh*

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Professionalpoker 07-23-2007 03:33 PM

Re: Disturbing e-mail from amazon.co.uk
 
[ QUOTE ]
Just looked at your shipping rates to the UK
What am I looking at timewise for each option ?

[/ QUOTE ]

Global Express Guaranteed - $57.86 (actually fed-ex 1-3 business days) Tracks

Express Mail International (EMS) - $36.61 (2-5 business days) Tracks

Priority Mail International - $25.86 (1-2 weeks) Tracks

First-Class Mail International - $13.86 (2-4 weeks) No Tracking. If a single book I'll put it into a flat rate Priority envelope and you are back to 1-2 weeks.

All quotes are estimates subject to postal, weather, customs, labor and any other reason thats not my fault delays [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]


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