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earlecement 02-10-2007 10:14 AM

Interesting artcile on HBO\'s The Wire
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguide/features/story/0,,2008424,00.html

Getting wired


Hailed as the best, most sprawling TV show ever made, The Wire takes an unflinching look at the bankruptcy of the drugs war. Ben Marshall talks to the creators with a novel approach

Saturday February 10, 2007
The Guardian

Head east or west away from Baltimore's still relatively prosperous centre and you are suddenly struck by a curious silence. Traffic, that pervasive presence of the American city, is all but absent here. So, too, are people; unless you count the groups of alternately giggling or sullen corner boys who sell heroin and cocaine 24/7. Whole streets have been forsaken; whole city blocks are completely derelict, 47,000 homes and counting. Amid one of the highest murder rates in the western world, people are running for - literally - their lives.

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The doors and windows of the vacant properties are boarded and the boards are often stencilled with a message so redolent of inadvertent irony you feel faintly queasy looking at it. In large neat block capitals the words read: "IF ANIMAL TRAPPED CALL 410 396-6286". Some of these crumbling shells shelter feral, frightened children abandoned by parents who have long since surrendered themselves to analgesic oblivion. And if it hadn't occurred to you before it certainly occurs to you now; Baltimore is bleeding to death. This is the subject of HBO's The Wire, a drama so rich in character and nuance, and so powerful in its anger and painful with its humour that it has been compared to the darkest classics of literature. It is no coincidence that some of America's most accomplished novelists (such as George Pelecanos, Dennis Lehane and Richard Price) have written for its first four seasons. Nor was it a surprise when the New York Times wrote: "If Charles Dickens were alive today, he would watch The Wire, unless, that is, he was already writing for it." The difference in The Wire however, is that there is no kindly old gentleman to set things right.

Over the course of its four series (a fifth and final is in pre-production right now) The Wire does what no other TV programme has ever attempted to do. It immerses us in the lives of drug dealers, cops, politicians, stick-up artists and junkies. It makes their plights and conflicts so palpably real we are compelled to undergo, if not a moral crisis, then certainly a moral re-examination. Its fourth season was considered so important that when it was screened last summer in the US, both the New York and LA Times devoted their editorial columns to it. It is a show of giddying, riveting, uncompromising complexity. And makes the fullest use of its 12 episode, 12 hour format.

Co-creator Ed Burns explains it this way. "We can do things no other show can do. It's wonderful, because you can plan something in episode nine that doesn't blossom until 35. I remember in the second season we had this woman in the background just scrubbing her steps. And you see her in the background, just scrubbing every episode, and the drug dealers are moving closer and closer, until the final episode - they're sitting on her steps and she has a little "for sale" sign in the window."

The first three seasons are largely devoted to the bringing down of the ruthlessly efficient Barksdale/Bell drug crew. Avon Barksdale is a mixture of explosive violence and cloying sentimentality, forever lecturing others on family values and loyalty even as he goes about his murderous business. His infinitely more dangerous lieutenant Stringer Bell is the embodiment of Machiavellian charm and bootstrap capitalism. By the end of season three these two men, who by now we cannot help but root for, have accumulated so much cash they have set about buying up swathes of property on Baltimore's lucrative waterfront, prompting one detective to observe: "So Stringer and Avon are worse than drugs dealers; they're property developers."

It is this careful development of character and plot that has seen The Wire rightly compared to great epic novels. Initially billed as a cop show (a label that Ed Burns's writing partner David Simon describes as a "necessary Trojan Horse"), it bears no resemblance to any cop show you might have seen. Unlike, say, the CSI franchise, where unequivocally good and good-looking men and women swan around swish offices, and viewers are accustomed to the crime lab delivering perpetrators neatly at the end of each episode, The Wire offers no such comforts. Here the cops are, for the most part, a bunch of aggressive, workshy drunks who inhabit a filthy basement so appallingly ill-equipped they barely have a computer between them. And the cops are of course pitted against the crooks, but since we spend as much time in the company of the latter as we do the former, our sympathies are forever being tested to breaking point.

"That's the problem with most cop shows," explains David Simon. "It's the black hat, white hat thing. I swear if I had to write a police procedural right now, I'd put a gun to my head. On shows where only the arrest matters, where it's about good and evil, punishing crime, the poor and the rich, the suspect exists to exalt the good guys, to make the Sipowiczes [the no-nonsense cop in NYPD Blue] and the Pembletons [the no-nonsense cop in Homicide - Life On The Streets] and the Joe Fridays [the no-nonsense cop in the protoypical Dragnet] that much more moral, that much more righteous, that much more intellectualised. It's to validate their point of view and the point of view of society. So, you end up with same stilted picture of the underclass. Either they're the salt of earth looking for a break, and not at all responsible, or they're dangerous and evil and need to be punished. That's a good precedent for creating an alienated America. Dramatically I have no interest in good versus evil. I am interested in institutions, and how they seek to preserve themselves even as they are crumbling."

So in season three of The Wire Simon and Burns draw direct parallels between street level corruption and incompetence, and the venal indifference of Baltimore's political establishment. We move from street busts and crunchy beatings, through squalid squats, to the marbled corridors of City Hall. Every petty dealer is running some sorry little scam. The cops, however good or bad they may be, are perpetually the victims of a quota system that effectively discourages the investigation of crimes, since an investigation has necessarily to acknowledge a crime has been committed in the first place. And the dealers themselves, Barksdale and Bell, inhabit a netherworld of blood, lies and spiralling paranoia. Meanwhile the politicians, both the cynically ambitious and the well meaning, attempt to spin an unspinnable scenario. If this rings any bells then it should do.

"Season three," explains David Simon, "opens with two towers being blown up. This initiates a dumb and protracted war. Now people will come to me and ask, 'Is there a metaphor here?' Well what the [censored] do you think? Baltimore is the star of the show, but it's not the subject. American power and American weakness is the subject. One of the subjects." The only pure, institutionally untainted character in The Wire is Omar, an openly gay, and selectively but astonishingly violent stick-up artist. Armed with a 12-gauge shotgun, he earns his money by blowing the balls off dealers and stealing their stash and cash. At one point he is seen wearing a T-shirt emblazoned with the words "I am the American Dream."

"African American drug crews can be pretty homophobic," explains Burns, "so Omar could never really have belonged to any of those crews. He's out on his own."

"It's funny," says David Simon, "When we initially created that character people would come up to us on the street and say 'I like Omar, but why does he have to be gay?' Now everyone likes him, it's like his sexuality has become peripheral, which is very gratifying." With the likes of Omar, Bell and Barksdale, Burns and Simon have pulled off a trick few would dare attempt and even fewer could pull off with such lyrical aplomb. They have created characters that are at once loathsome and utterly fascinating. To then get us to empathise with these men is extraordinary. Equally, the cops - caught between the dealers and the vicissitudes of City Hall - are, even at their most honest and likable, grippingly dysfunctional. "

For this, and much more besides, The Wire is the most critically acclaimed TV programme in the history of the medium. The characters haunt you long, long after you have watched it. In season four Burns and Simon explore Baltimore's hopeless education system. The main protagonists are no longer the cops and dealers who inhabited the first three seasons, but rather the children trapped between impecunious schools and Baltimore's lucrative drug culture. "IF ANIMAL TRAPPED CALL 410 396-6286." People do occasionally call, of course. Trapped and starving dogs tend to annoy those few remaining neighbours who are either too poor, too stupid, too stubborn or too brave to move. They even annoy the child street dealers who sometimes entertain themselves by shooting the animals dead. But people don't call for the kids. The kids, it seems, are just one animal too much. *

· Series three of The Wire is out now on DVD. Series four starts on Tue, 10pm, FX

The Wire has more than 60 characters. Meet some of the main players ...

The street

Marlo Stanfield (Jamie Hector): Marlo is the new generation. He employs kids who are happy to use nail guns to get their point across and initiates a bloody and pointless war against the Barksdale/ Bell crew. As his opponent, Slim Charles, remarks: "If we fight on a lie, we fight on a lie."

Avon Barksdale (Wood Harris): Avon is the very volatile leader of the west Baltimore drugs crew. "I'm just a gangsta, I suppose."

Omar Little (Michael K Williams): Notoriously violent stick-up artist who manages to make enemies of everyone. The Wire's most feared and loved character. "It's all in the game."

Bubbles (Andre Royo): Inveterate thief, police informant and junkie, and thus perhaps the closest thing you get to a nice guy in The Wire.

Malik 'Poot' Carr (Tray Chaney): Poot is another low-level teenage dealer. Affable and sex-obsessed, Poot is also a highly effective killer. Bodie disapproves of his sexual promiscuity. "Your dick gonna look like a fried chicken wing."

Russell 'Stringer' Bell (Idris Elba): Stringer, Barksdale's partner, is also an economics student. String wants to legitimise the business. This invariably causes problems with Avon. "Nigga gone crazy."

Preston 'Bodie' Broadus (JD Williams): A teenage drug enforcer. There is no more enthusiastic advocate of corner life than Bodie. "Why the [censored] would anyone wanna leave Baltimore," he asks with genuine bewilderment.

The law

Detective William 'Bunk' Moreland (Wendell Pierce): Perhaps the only black man in Baltimore who knows Pogues songs off by heart. Bunk, in addition to being a calamitous drunk, is also "good police".

Detective Jimmy McMulty (Dominic West): Jimmy is the "insubordinate [censored]" who brings the whole Barksdale /Bell mess to the attention of his ungrateful superiors. As Bunk says to him: "You're not just any kind of [censored] - you're a special kind of [censored]."

Detective Jimmy Shakima 'Kima' Greggs (Sonja Sohn): Courageous black lesbian cop who also happens to be brilliant at meting out beatings to the local drug dealers. Often surprised by Jimmy McNulty: "Did you just call your wife a [censored]?"

Rick Nebiolo 02-10-2007 10:27 PM

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Thanks.

This sounds very good. I don't get cable but I'm happy to find that shows like this are available on Netflix. It's been added to my Q.

~ Rick

Blarg 02-10-2007 10:41 PM

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I'll only watch this when I get around to it on Netflix. HBO carpet bombs it schedule with this series so mercilessly it becomes counter-advertising after a point.

JuntMonkey 02-11-2007 12:51 AM

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Is this show seriously better than or equal to the first two seasons of Sopranos? For point of reference, I think season 1 of Oz is pretty good, but seasons 2-3 are horrendous because everything that happens is so ridiculous. Completely over the top, and not in the comedic way.

I can't really read this whole article without seeing spoilers, but does the show take a basically anti-drug war stance, pro-drug war, or neutral?

It's better than the Shield right?

pauliewalnuts 02-11-2007 01:50 AM

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Is this show seriously better than or equal to the first two seasons of Sopranos? For point of reference, I think season 1 of Oz is pretty good, but seasons 2-3 are horrendous because everything that happens is so ridiculous. Completely over the top, and not in the comedic way.

I can't really read this whole article without seeing spoilers, but does the show take a basically anti-drug war stance, pro-drug war, or neutral?

It's better than the Shield right?

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This show is basically flawless. I got into this show after watching the Sopranos, which I loved. I thought I'd never find a TV show that could compare to it. But The Wire does. And it is probably better, but it is at least equal to the first two seasons of The Sopranos. I just want to watch this show over and over. There has been a fair amount of talk about this show in OOT lately and hopefully a few people have checked it out because of that. But I encourage all you you to watch the first season. I cant imagine how any semi-intelligent person wouldnt fall in love with this show. The characters on this show are great. Stringer Bell, who was mentioned a few times in the article, sn the guy in my avatar.

And yes, it is better than The Shield. I like The Shield a lot though, but The wire is just in another league.

Michaelson 02-11-2007 03:22 AM

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The article doesn't do the show justice.

Junt: It is definitely not over the top. It's anti drug war, but not to the point of distraction. It explores the issues surrounding drugs/crime/poverty/education in, I think, the most spectacularly measured and intelligent fashion, and it exposes shows like The Shield for the formulaic, cut and paste jobs that they are (and like paulie I always liked The Shield).

It basically puts all tv, and most film for that matter, to shame.

Runkmud 02-11-2007 05:17 PM

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Wow, I can't believe that some of the folks from the Lounge haven't seen this show. It's the best show on television and it's not close. The depth and richness of the charaters if flat out amazing. The change of plots and subplots from season to season is fantastic. I can't say enough fantastic things about this show.

stjohnychan 02-11-2007 10:25 PM

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The wire is the best show on tv ever. Go out now and find it somewhere. Don't worry about reading spoilers because nothing could spoil the show for you.

I now use this show as a criteria to judge new people I meet- if they haven't seen it, I tell them to, but if somehow they've seen it and didn't like it I know instantly I can't be freinds w/ them. Overwhelming though, the LOVE it, which reinforces my faith in humanity.

Oh and also the show taught me how to set up a drug corner/operation the right way, so I have a back-up plan in life.

TheFaucet 02-12-2007 03:43 AM

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Great show, can't wait for Season 5. It's different from a lot of other shows that deal with crime in that it don't dehumanize any of the characters, which is what makes them so real and endearing. I love all the characters but Snoop is my favorite. The actor who plays her (Felicia Pearson) has lead a life much like Snoop's. She was born while both her parents were serving sentences and got locked up when she was 14 for shooting a woman. She got out when she was 20 and had the fortune of running into the actor who plays Omar at a car wash she was working at and subsequently getting a part through his recommendation.

diebitter 02-12-2007 04:07 AM

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Wow, I can't believe that some of the folks from the Lounge haven't seen this show. It's the best show on television and it's not close. The depth and richness of the charaters if flat out amazing. The change of plots and subplots from season to season is fantastic. I can't say enough fantastic things about this show.

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One thing is there are many really good shows out right now. TV has never been better, IMO. You used to get like 1 good show a year, but now there seems to be several going on at the same time. You can't watch them all, unfortunately.

Rick Nebiolo 02-12-2007 05:59 AM

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One thing is there are many really good shows out right now. TV has never been better, IMO. You used to get like 1 good show a year, but now there seems to be several going on at the same time. You can't watch them all, unfortunately.

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Even though I watch hardly any TV mostly due to time pressure and a tendency to lose interest during commercial breaks (i.e., my mind wanders into the world of my anxieties) I realize there's some real good stuff out there.

A lot of things in culture and lifestyle are very good these days but many people around my age (I'm 52) often don't thing so. IMO it's the nostalgia trap; that is comparing the average of today with the best of something from years ago. It's simply not a fair comparison.

~ Rick

GTL 02-12-2007 08:49 AM

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Omar Testifies

"and what is your occupation?"

"Occupation?"

"What exactly do you do for a living?"

"I rip and run."

"Youuuu..."

"I robs drug dealers."

"and exactly how long has this been your occupation?"

"I venture to say maybe about, 8 or 9 years"

"How does a man rob drug dealers for 8 or 9 years and live to tell about it?"

"Day at a time, I suppose"

pauliewalnuts 02-12-2007 05:07 PM

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Wow, I can't believe that some of the folks from the Lounge haven't seen this show. It's the best show on television and it's not close. The depth and richness of the charaters if flat out amazing. The change of plots and subplots from season to season is fantastic. I can't say enough fantastic things about this show.

[/ QUOTE ]


One thing is there are many really good shows out right now. TV has never been better, IMO. You used to get like 1 good show a year, but now there seems to be several going on at the same time. You can't watch them all, unfortunately.

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I dont watch any TV other than a few of the HBO shows, but I feel pretty comfortable saying that the good network shows dont compare to The Wire.

Bump it to the top of your Netflix queue. Each season is like 12 hours of the best film you've ever seen.

pauliewalnuts 02-12-2007 05:07 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
Omar Testifies

"and what is your occupation?"

"Occupation?"

"What exactly do you do for a living?"

"I rip and run."

"Youuuu..."

"I robs drug dealers."

"and exactly how long has this been your occupation?"

"I venture to say maybe about, 8 or 9 years"

"How does a man rob drug dealers for 8 or 9 years and live to tell about it?"

"Day at a time, I suppose"

[/ QUOTE ]

Possibly the single best scene in the history of the show.

stjohnychan 02-13-2007 06:08 PM

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pauliewalnuts
old hand
(Avatar is a Picture of Stringer Bell)

Reged: 05/19/05
Posts: 760

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who's better? Stringer Bell or Paulie Walnuts?

troymclur 02-13-2007 08:57 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Omar Testifies

"and what is your occupation?"

"Occupation?"

"What exactly do you do for a living?"

"I rip and run."

"Youuuu..."

"I robs drug dealers."

"and exactly how long has this been your occupation?"

"I venture to say maybe about, 8 or 9 years"

"How does a man rob drug dealers for 8 or 9 years and live to tell about it?"

"Day at a time, I suppose"

[/ QUOTE ]

Possibly the single best scene in the history of the show.

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Great scene, but there are several others that are better largely because of the emotional weight rather than the comedic factor of this one.

In particular, the scene between Stringer and Avon at the end of Season 3 when they are on the balcony looking over the pier is my personal favorite.

pauliewalnuts 02-14-2007 12:09 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Omar Testifies

"and what is your occupation?"

"Occupation?"

"What exactly do you do for a living?"

"I rip and run."

"Youuuu..."

"I robs drug dealers."

"and exactly how long has this been your occupation?"

"I venture to say maybe about, 8 or 9 years"

"How does a man rob drug dealers for 8 or 9 years and live to tell about it?"

"Day at a time, I suppose"

[/ QUOTE ]

Possibly the single best scene in the history of the show.

[/ QUOTE ]

Great scene, but there are several others that are better largely because of the emotional weight rather than the comedic factor of this one.

In particular, the scene between Stringer and Avon at the end of Season 3 when they are on the balcony looking over the pier is my personal favorite.

[/ QUOTE ]

Certainly. That episode(3-11) is probably my favorite of the entire series. Both of them knowing what they'd just had to do, but still enjoying their last evening with one another. That is a fantastic scene. They truly did love each other despite of their difference in philosophy.

The opening scene with omar and Brother Mouzone was also excellent.

pauliewalnuts 02-14-2007 12:13 AM

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pauliewalnuts
old hand
(Avatar is a Picture of Stringer Bell)

Reged: 05/19/05
Posts: 760

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who's better? Stringer Bell or Paulie Walnuts?

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That is tough. Probably Stringer these days. The Sopranos was my favorite show for a long time, but lately The Wire is the best. Stringer cant match Paulie's comedic contributions though.

ClassicBob 02-14-2007 02:23 AM

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Can I read this thread without getting seasons 3 and 4 spoiled? I watched the first two when they aired, and then went to school and didn't have HBO. I'm about to start 3 and 4 after re-watching the first two over the past few weeks.

ClassicBob 02-14-2007 02:24 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Omar Testifies

"and what is your occupation?"

"Occupation?"

"What exactly do you do for a living?"

"I rip and run."

"Youuuu..."

"I robs drug dealers."

"and exactly how long has this been your occupation?"

"I venture to say maybe about, 8 or 9 years"

"How does a man rob drug dealers for 8 or 9 years and live to tell about it?"

"Day at a time, I suppose"

[/ QUOTE ]

Possibly the single best scene in the history of the show.

[/ QUOTE ]

I will submit that the opening scene of this series ("This is America.") is better.

GTL 02-14-2007 03:23 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Omar Testifies

"and what is your occupation?"

"Occupation?"

"What exactly do you do for a living?"

"I rip and run."

"Youuuu..."

"I robs drug dealers."

"and exactly how long has this been your occupation?"

"I venture to say maybe about, 8 or 9 years"

"How does a man rob drug dealers for 8 or 9 years and live to tell about it?"

"Day at a time, I suppose"

[/ QUOTE ]

Possibly the single best scene in the history of the show.

[/ QUOTE ]

I will submit that the opening scene of this series ("This is America.") is better.

[/ QUOTE ]

i never said it was the best scene. i just have a man crush on omar. i would be his bitch if he schooled me.

ClassicBob 09-23-2007 12:18 AM

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teaser

ematz 09-23-2007 01:29 PM

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teaser

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I want to watch so bad but don't want to know anything at all......

pauliewalnuts 09-23-2007 07:42 PM

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teaser

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I want to watch so bad but don't want to know anything at all......

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Nothing would be spoiled. It doesnt even contain any clips.

ua1176 09-23-2007 10:43 PM

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For anyone interested, Idris Elba (actor who played Stringer) is working on some pretty interesting hip-hop music. no clue if/when it'll see the light of day but the sessions i heard were pretty cool.

ematz 09-24-2007 05:35 PM

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teaser

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I want to watch so bad but don't want to know anything at all......

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Nothing would be spoiled. It doesnt even contain any clips.

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What about McNulty, you liar! Just kidding, god I'm so excited for Season 5.

Aloysius 09-24-2007 07:18 PM

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I thought the McNulty reveal was a bit of a spoiler [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] But CB posted it, and he's awesome so he gets a free pass.

DB - I'm actually curious as to what a Brit's take on this series would be. Imo, it's incredibly American in its vernacular and feel (haha I mean this in a positive way). But it's also ultimately an exploration of the human condition, so I think would easily cut across cultural barriers of understanding.

I have written this many times on 2p2 - this is an incredible series, perhaps the best produced in American television history.

-Al

ClassicBob 09-24-2007 09:34 PM

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I didn't think the McNulty thing was that big of a deal. You can't keep a good man down forever, ya dig?

I also bumped a Wire thread the other day in OOT to say that the Season 4 DVD set is available for preorder on Amazon. Just double-checked, and it's still there for 39 bucks (awesome price). In fact, every season is available right now for approximately 40, so if you don't have them already, you should get them.

Al is correct, and I'll go a bit further, it's the best show in television history, and one of the most significant pieces of art in the past 50 years.

noir 09-25-2007 04:52 AM

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Folks that are fans of The Wire definitely should check out this article. If you liked the Sopranos, I'd say you'll dig it even more.

Two Salon critics present their arguments for which is the best TV show of all time.

http://www.salon.com/ent/tv/feature/...tml?source=rss

I hope that this gets some discussion going as well. The Wire article works well with the OP's link in terms of making the case that The Wire certainly is on part with great literature.

bryan4967 09-25-2007 12:56 PM

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Apologies if this has already been posted, but this is gold. The Wire w/ laugh track.

JPantz 09-26-2007 09:25 PM

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I feel like you can't fully appreciate The Wire until you've lived or spent a considerable about of time in Baltimore.

shane88888 09-26-2007 11:57 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
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Omar Testifies

"and what is your occupation?"

"Occupation?"

"What exactly do you do for a living?"

"I rip and run."

"Youuuu..."

"I robs drug dealers."

"and exactly how long has this been your occupation?"

"I venture to say maybe about, 8 or 9 years"

"How does a man rob drug dealers for 8 or 9 years and live to tell about it?"

"Day at a time, I suppose"

[/ QUOTE ]

Possibly the single best scene in the history of the show.

[/ QUOTE ]

I will submit that the opening scene of this series ("This is America.") is better.

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This correct.

Close second place:
Jimmy and Bunk working the crime scene in the County. One word is used, albeit 45 times.


This really helps in recommending the show (which should be easy enough since it's the best I've ever seen).

I tell people to watch the first scene of the first episode.

If they can't get into that, then they just won't get it.

"Gots to. This America man."

shane88888 09-26-2007 11:58 PM

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Thread suggestion: Best Wire scene ever.

Much potential for vicious debate.


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