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OK, let's pretend that somehow you have a vote for the HOF next year. Who are you voting for?

I've included everyone eligible from last year's ballot and a few newcomers eligible.

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Shouldn't there be a limit to how many we can pick?

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Yeah, I think we should have the same limit in casting votes as the writers do. How many votes do they get?

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They get 10. I really don't think it's going to be a problem.

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They get 10. I really don't think it's going to be a problem.

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You're right. From the all-knowing Wikipedia:

Players are currently inducted into the Hall of Fame through election by either the Baseball Writers Association of America (or BBWAA), or the Veterans Committee, which is now composed of living Hall of Famers and recipients of the two major awards. Five years after retirement, any player with 10 years of major league experience, who passes a screening committee (which removes from consideration players of clearly lesser qualification) is eligible to be elected by BBWAA members with 10 years' membership or more. From a final ballot typically including 25-40 candidates, each writer may vote for up to 10 players; until the late 1950s, voters were advised to cast votes for the maximum 10 candidates. Any player named on 75% or more of all ballots cast is elected

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Here's my ballot:

1. Cal Ripken, Jr.
2. Tony Gwynn
3. Goose Gossage - no reason Sutter should be in and him not.
4. Alan Trammell - it's a travesty he and Whitaker won't be ale to go in together
5. Bert Blyleven - It's a joke that he's not in
6. Mark McGwire - controversial pick...

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Here's my ballot:

1. Cal Ripken, Jr.
2. Tony Gwynn
3. Goose Gossage - no reason Sutter should be in and him not.
4. Alan Trammell - it's a travesty he and Whitaker won't be ale to go in together
5. Bert Blyleven - It's a joke that he's not in
6. Mark McGwire - controversial pick...

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I voted for the first 5 here as well as Jim Rice and Orel Hershiser.

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Here's my ballot:

1. Cal Ripken, Jr.
2. Tony Gwynn
3. Goose Gossage - no reason Sutter should be in and him not.
4. Alan Trammell - it's a travesty he and Whitaker won't be ale to go in together
5. Bert Blyleven - It's a joke that he's not in
6. Mark McGwire - controversial pick...

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I didn't vote for Blyleven or Trammel because I don't know enought about them, but I voted for the other four.

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Here's my ballot:

1. Cal Ripken, Jr.
2. Tony Gwynn
3. Goose Gossage - no reason Sutter should be in and him not.
4. Alan Trammell - it's a travesty he and Whitaker won't be ale to go in together
5. Bert Blyleven - It's a joke that he's not in
6. Mark McGwire - controversial pick...

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i too voted for the first 5 - no McGwire on first ballot - but also included Rice & Jack Morris.

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I'm a huge homer and I'm shocked that 5 people voted for Orel Hershiser. He had 3 dominant seasons and was mildly above average for the rest of his career. His career ERA+ is 112. You can compare his favorably to past HOF mistakes like Jim Bunning and Catfish Hunter, but that's about it. And this is coming from someone who dressed up as Orel Hershiser for Halloween one year and uses the handle Hershiser55 when I play in online baseball leagues.

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In addition to a few others mentioned, I voted for Dawson and Murphy.

This is based purely on my faulty memory of them as great players for a few years. I have no idea whether they accumulated enough numbers over the long-term to merit inclusion.

The only people I voted for without hesitation were Gossage, Gwynn, and Ripken. I also suspect that Trammel or Blyleven belong, but I would need to look to confirm. My memory is that Blyleven pitched on some pretty bad teams for a while, so his numbers might be unfair viewed in a vacuum.

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People don't know about baseball-reference.com? You can look up anyone.

http://baseball-reference.com

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I can't imagine voting for Jim Rice and not:

Andre Dawson
Dave Parker
Harold Baines
Darrell Evans
Dwight Evans
Steve Garvey
Al Oliver
Don Mattingly
Jon Olerud
Dale Murphy

and a bunch of other guys that look the same.

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Here's my ballot:

1. Cal Ripken, Jr.
2. Tony Gwynn
3. Goose Gossage - no reason Sutter should be in and him not.
4. Alan Trammell - it's a travesty he and Whitaker won't be ale to go in together
5. Bert Blyleven - It's a joke that he's not in
6. Mark McGwire - controversial pick...

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Same, minus Trammell. I could be convinced on him though.

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Gwynn, Ripken, Big Mac

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I voted for Gossage, Blyleven, Trammell, Ripken, McGwire and Gwynn.

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Two people didn't vote for Gwynn? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Two people didn't vote for Gwynn? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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It takes all kinds...

Gwynn and Ripken will get well over 90% of the votes. The question is whether McGwire gets his 75%, and if he doesn't, how far away will he be from it? I think he'll get around 65%. There are plenty of voters who may think he deserves a trip to the HOF, but not on the first ballot.

Personally, I hope he doesn't get in. I voted for Blyleven, Dawson, Gwynn, and Ripken.

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If you hand me a Hall of Fame ballot, it better have Pete Rose's name on it or all I'm doing with it is wiping my ass.

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I voted for:

1. Ripken
2. Gwynn
3. McGwire
4. Blyleven
5. Gossage
6. Smith

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Yeah, what's with the no love for the career saves leader?

NT

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Dawson, Blyleven, Smith, Gwynn, Ripken Jr., McGwire

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Ripken, Gwynn, Mcgwire, Dawson, Blyleven, Gossage

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Yeah, what's with the no love for the career saves leader?

NT

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He wasn't very good.



What's with big swings in the number of votes that players get? In Sutter's first year of eligibility, he got 23.9% of the vote. Last year he got 76.9% to get elected. Is this difference because of turnover in voters? Or did half of the baseball writers change their minds on him?

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Here's my ballot:

1. Cal Ripken, Jr.
2. Tony Gwynn
3. Goose Gossage - no reason Sutter should be in and him not.
4. Alan Trammell - it's a travesty he and Whitaker won't be ale to go in together
5. Bert Blyleven - It's a joke that he's not in
6. Mark McGwire - controversial pick...

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same.

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Alan Trammell is getting less love than Jim Rice, Lee Smith, Don Mattingly, and Orel [censored] Hershiser for god's sake. That's horrible.

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Alan Trammell is getting less love than Jim Rice, Lee Smith, Don Mattingly, and Orel [censored] Hershiser for god's sake. That's horrible.

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I think that has to do with playing on lower profile teams in smaller markets.

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Alan Trammell is getting less love than Jim Rice, Lee Smith, Don Mattingly, and Orel [censored] Hershiser for god's sake. That's horrible.

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In terms of hitting, Rice and Mattingly were better than Trammell in practically every aspect except for stolen bases. On defense, Trammell certainly played more of a skill position, but to have defense as a consideration, he would need more than his 3 Gold Gloves.

Then again, as a die-hard Yankees fan who grew up near the end of Donnie Baseball's career, I want to see Mattingly in the Hall of Fame, though I'm sure that won't happen.

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Alan Trammell is getting less love than Jim Rice, Lee Smith, Don Mattingly, and Orel [censored] Hershiser for god's sake. That's horrible.

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In terms of hitting, Rice and Mattingly were better than Trammell in practically every aspect except for stolen bases. On defense, Trammell certainly played more of a skill position, but to have defense as a consideration, he would need more than his 3 Gold Gloves.



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Alan Trammell is getting less love than Jim Rice, Lee Smith, Don Mattingly, and Orel [censored] Hershiser for god's sake. That's horrible.

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In terms of hitting, Rice and Mattingly were better than Trammell in practically every aspect except for stolen bases. On defense, Trammell certainly played more of a skill position, but to have defense as a consideration, he would need more than his 3 Gold Gloves.

Then again, as a die-hard Yankees fan who grew up near the end of Donnie Baseball's career, I want to see Mattingly in the Hall of Fame, though I'm sure that won't happen.

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Maybe it isn't fair to compare offensive production of a corner OFer or a 1B with a SS.

Josh

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Alan Trammell is getting less love than Jim Rice, Lee Smith, Don Mattingly, and Orel [censored] Hershiser for god's sake. That's horrible.

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I think that has to do with playing on lower profile teams in smaller markets.

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I think it has just as much to do with the average age of the forum.
There are a lot of 18-24 year olds around here who don't have any real memories of watching players from Trammell's era.

In fact, I'd guess Jack is one of them and that he has just spent more time pouring over the record books than most.

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lolz @ 3 people NOT voting Gwynn in. Even on 2+2 there is a hesitation with voting a player in 100% first year. hahaha.

A couple weeks back I perused Gwynn's stats. I grew up in the 80's and so I remember how good he was, but JESUS. Career .330+ hitter. I had no idea it was that high. To play that long, and end up that high is just SICK SICK SICK.

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Gwynn's overrated. (I voted for him.)

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Gwynn's overrated. (I voted for him.)

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Over-rated or not, he was a rare breed. You can still be overrated and get 100% of the votes.

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How so few people vote for Rice here and in the writers is beyond me.

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How so few people vote for Rice here and in the writers is beyond me.

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How so many people vote for Rice here and in the writers is beyond me. Why not induct Will Clark while we're at it?

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I voted for Blyleven, McGwire, Gwynn, and Ripken.

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who voted for Wally?

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I can't imagine voting for Jim Rice and not:

Andre Dawson
Dave Parker
Harold Baines
Darrell Evans
Dwight Evans
Steve Garvey
Al Oliver
Don Mattingly
Jon Olerud
Dale Murphy

and a bunch of other guys that look the same.

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Were you watching baseball between 1975 and 1984? I don't mean this sarcastically; serious question. I can see debate about Rice but comparing him to some of the folks on your list is a little curious. If you were a fan of the game during that time, I'd be interested to here why you think Rice compares favorably to someone like Al Oliver.

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who voted for Wally?

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You can't have a Hall of Fame and not include Wally Joyner, come on, look who we're dealing with here. It's Wally World, how can you not vote for him. I'm shocked he has so few votes...

And he has better career numbers than Alan Trammell and I voted for him too...