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plzdontbanme 11-26-2007 11:27 AM

farewell pokerstars...
 
Dear xxxxx

You have requested to partake in PokerStars Responsible Gaming Self-Exclusion. Please cashout any remaining cash balance you have.

Your ability to make deposits and participate in any PokerStars games has now been closed for 180 days. You will be able to regain access after 2008/05/24 9:05.

This self-exclusion is irreversible, and does not automatically become reinstated. At the end of your exclusion period, you may write to us at wecare@pokerstars.com if you would like your privileges restored.

If you are registered for any online tournaments during your exclusion period, you will be unregistered, and your buy-in will be refunded. All funds in your account should be cashed out.

In case you are interested, we are providing two links of organizations that offer free counseling and advice on responsible and problem gaming: www.gamcare.co.uk and http://www.gamblersanonymous.org

Regards
PokerStars Responsible Gaming Team


I agree with action jeff that stars is rigged. Not like absolute poker rigged where some greedy [censored] is straight up robbing you at the tables and can see ur whole cards.

Imo, stars is rigged in order to balance the amount and types of players on the site, and not for the sole purpose of monetary gain (atleast not in the short run). Here is a hierarchy of how good or bad different types of players run.

Noobs- stars lets 'em run like god, catching all types of miracles after making retarded plays

the fish that plays occasionally- stars lets them run good enough to lose just a little bit in the long run

the pro/rounder/shark - stars lets them run poorly, but due to good play, they can still squeeze out a win here and there.

the busted pro - these ppl run poorly b/c stars knows they are capable of winning and will keep playing on there site

the hardcore degenerate- this group of ppl may have once been a shark or pro, but due to a terrible run of cards/ terrible br management have lost massive amts and is on life tilt. stars knows these ppl will keep taking shots at becoming rich again. Therefore, stars will do whatever it takes to bad beat this group of players, because they are like revolving doors and keep coming back.

anyway, if you're in the last two categories, do what i did, just say goodbye to stars, and don't try to play on that site again because you're pretty much hopeless, and if you're in the 1st 3 categories, do not fall down.

JokersAttack 11-26-2007 11:28 AM

Re: farewell pokerstars...
 
Fkkkn ARB Cro0okks

Bigka79 11-26-2007 11:30 AM

Re: farewell pokerstars...
 
u got it all figured out dont you...damn pstars and rigged sites....i guess ull be swithin to FT soon

plzdontbanme 11-26-2007 11:31 AM

Re: farewell pokerstars...
 
do you not agree with atleast parts of my theory?

JokersAttack 11-26-2007 11:31 AM

Re: farewell pokerstars...
 
where aer u moving to OP?

Cake poker?

plzdontbanme 11-26-2007 11:34 AM

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u got it all figured out dont you...damn pstars and rigged sites....i guess ull be swithin to FT soon

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stars has no rakeback or big bonuses, yet they get so much action... yet everyone still bitches about how bad they run on the site...dont you see a trend? I'm not accusing them of stealing ppl's $ like ap.

plzdontbanme 11-26-2007 11:36 AM

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where aer u moving to OP?

Cake poker?

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ftp shall be my new home

Ganjasaurus Rex 11-26-2007 11:39 AM

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where aer u moving to OP?

Cake poker?

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ftp shall be my new home

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Oh goodie. FTP is getting a new fish!

99killed 11-26-2007 11:41 AM

Re: farewell pokerstars...
 
lol

coordi 11-26-2007 11:44 AM

Re: farewell pokerstars...
 
your right. obviously rigged http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5...ggedobvhi6.jpg

JokersAttack 11-26-2007 11:45 AM

Re: farewell pokerstars...
 
I strongly advise against FTP. Once I was playing there and I had pocket aces right, and I went all in against a guy with A3, and he won. I'm pretty sure its rigged,,

btmagnetw 11-26-2007 11:48 AM

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Noobs- stars lets 'em run like god, catching all types of miracles after making retarded plays


the fish that plays occasionally- stars lets them run good enough to lose just a little bit in the long run

the fish that plays a lot - stars tries to help them out but all the RNGs in the world can't help when the fish keeps pushing 22 preflop UTG, and they are eventually required to implement a self-exclusion at the fish's request.


the pro/rounder/shark - stars lets them run poorly, but due to good play, they can still squeeze out a win here and there.

the busted pro - these ppl run poorly b/c stars knows they are capable of winning and will keep playing on there site

the hardcore degenerate- this group of ppl may have once been a shark or pro, but due to a terrible run of cards/ terrible br management have lost massive amts and is on life tilt. stars knows these ppl will keep taking shots at becoming rich again. Therefore, stars will do whatever it takes to bad beat this group of players, because they are like revolving doors and keep coming back.

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skillgambler 11-26-2007 11:50 AM

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Chad (2:39:29 PM) : fk that [censored]
Chad (2:39:35 PM) : i wont pay that [censored] if i win 2 mill guar next week

skillgambler 11-26-2007 11:51 AM

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Chad (1:17:43 PM): a bnch of fkn arab crrooks
Chad (1:17:57 PM): stars s rigged for action 2

Nybbles_64 11-26-2007 11:51 AM

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your right. obviously rigged http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5...ggedobvhi6.jpg

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Stop folding so you can get to showdown and luckbox!

plzdontbanme 11-26-2007 11:56 AM

Re: farewell pokerstars...
 
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your right. obviously rigged http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5...ggedobvhi6.jpg

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explain the red

skillgambler 11-26-2007 12:04 PM

Re: farewell pokerstars...
 
k, gotta post this one too:


Chad (2:32:57 PM) : i know when i am goin to get 2 outeter
Chad (2:32:59 PM) : its so sik
Chad (2:33:00 PM) : on stars
Chad (2:33:11 PM) : naw man
Chad (2:33:13 PM) : swongs are 1 thing
Chad (2:33:18 PM) : rigged is another
Chad (2:33:27 PM) : and fk the [censored] ak
Chad (2:33:31 PM) : i aint payin him shy tne way
Chad (2:33:40 PM) : he can get it from me if we ever meet

gregorio 11-26-2007 12:08 PM

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your right. obviously rigged http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5...ggedobvhi6.jpg

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explain the red

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Blue is winnings in +EV PS Rigs Situations (+EVPSRS)--i.e. PS was rigging hands in his favour. Green is winnings in -EVPSRS. Red is winnings in neutralEVPSRS.

HajiShirazu 11-26-2007 01:54 PM

Re: farewell pokerstars...
 
I self-excluded myself for 180 days also, because after about the 20th day in a row of winning on other sites and losing on stars, I decided it was just too -EV to allow myself to play on the site any longer.

genius55 11-26-2007 01:56 PM

Re: farewell pokerstars...
 
stars is rigged.

blankoblanco 11-26-2007 02:00 PM

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stars is rigged.

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bottomset 11-26-2007 02:05 PM

Re: farewell pokerstars...
 
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your right. obviously rigged http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5...ggedobvhi6.jpg

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hope thats not your graph

Alobar 11-26-2007 02:18 PM

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I self-excluded myself for 180 days also, because after about the 20th day in a row of winning on other sites and losing on stars, I decided it was just too -EV to allow myself to play on the site any longer.

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all jokes aside, this was actually a smart decision, even if the sites were 100% proven to not be rigged, the fact you think you are going to lose on stars prolly affects how you play there, resulting in less EV than playing somewhere where you dont feel this way.

nuclear500 11-26-2007 02:19 PM

Re: farewell pokerstars...
 
I think you can probably look back in the archives here at 2+2 and see the same post with PartyPoker substituted in for PokerStars.

or FTP
or X
or Y
etc..

GrandMelon 11-26-2007 02:21 PM

Re: farewell pokerstars...
 
thanks for sharing your amazing detective work OP, you should be Inspector Gadget's sidekick imo

KreellKeiser 11-26-2007 02:45 PM

Re: farewell pokerstars...
 
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the hardcore degenerate- this group of ppl may have once been a shark or pro, but due to a terrible run of cards/ terrible br management have lost massive amts and is on life tilt. stars knows these ppl will keep taking shots at becoming rich again. Therefore, stars will do whatever it takes to bad beat this group of players, because they are like revolving doors and keep coming back.

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If they keep winning, will they not also keep coming back? I know I would. If you are winning thousands and thousands of dollars you will keep playing. And Stars would keep raking.

Your logic is retarded.

rivermetimbers 11-26-2007 03:34 PM

Re: farewell pokerstars...
 
wait, so by your statements NOBODY can win on pstars? [censored], i wish you had told me this earlier

ravenfan1733 11-26-2007 03:44 PM

Re: farewell pokerstars...
 
I just started playing on Stars and have a 39% ROI after 11 games so there may be some truth in your noob statement.

Guess I'll find out.

rivermetimbers 11-26-2007 04:41 PM

Re: farewell pokerstars...
 
raven, withdraw now as its your only chance at actually profiting

Troll_Inc 11-30-2007 12:03 PM

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your right. obviously rigged http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5...ggedobvhi6.jpg

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hope thats not your graph

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It looks like the poster went from playing 1/2 down to 5c/10c at about hand 52,000?

thrasher789 11-30-2007 12:06 PM

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do you not agree with atleast parts of my theory?

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no.

zen_rounder 11-30-2007 12:15 PM

Re: farewell pokerstars...
 
thank god the dollar exchange rate will stop me from re depositing there.. pheeeeew . three cheers for ££££ AND EUROS


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