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OnlinePro 10-25-2007 08:05 PM

What we mean when we say online poker is Rigged
 
When I say online poker is rigged, I dont simply mean the software is rigged by stars. Here are some different meanings of rigged.

1. Bad players are rewarded for the sake of keeping them playing longer.

2. A few selected house players win all the time ( I have a lot of evidense supporting this fact with all the mediocre players I know winning way to much.

3. Certain accounts set to lose because they know your forced to play longer ( trying to clear bonus) or ( reaching a milestone )

4. Players can see whole cards.

5. Other unknown ways of rigging to make it unrealistic.



I am rarely wrong in any theory that I develop, which was obviously the case with online poker. I have been saying its rigged long before the Absolute scandal came up. It is only a matter of time before all sites are exposed and I am looking forward to that day, because than maybe we can have some realistic poker being played after all the smoke settles and it is regulated by Americans, where our accounts are not subject to random freezing and seizing of funds.

I am sure the chosen people who are still making money hate me for saying these things, but they too know that it is rigged, they just wont say anything because they dont want to stop their money supply.

AJackson 10-25-2007 08:09 PM

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DMoogle 10-25-2007 08:14 PM

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NinaWilliams 10-25-2007 08:15 PM

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guys I think he's for real. He has lots of "evidense" after all.

Belok 10-25-2007 08:15 PM

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...hahaha

oh wait you're serious

hahahahahahaha

ty for donating bye

PrimogenitoX 10-25-2007 08:29 PM

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This guy is always this [censored] ridiculous. Can he finally be banned if not for the sake of simple darwinism? YO OnlineFAG...how about a PROP BET. If all the sites are ever found to be rigged as you say, I will pay you $100,000 CASH. Until then you don't type a single word on the internet ever again. Fair enough prop?

1p0kerboy 10-25-2007 08:31 PM

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I'm actually starting to like this guy.

dlk9s 10-25-2007 08:31 PM

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When I say online poker is rigged, I dont simply mean the software is rigged by stars.

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Um, you are saying the software is rigged in all of your points.


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4. Players can see whole cards.

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So, they're not just turning up the corners?

El_Hombre_Grande 10-25-2007 08:33 PM

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I am rarely wrong in any theory that I develop

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Or you lack the ability to properly critique the weaknesses of your own theories. Which is incidentally, the hallmark of a losing poker player.

I'd ask you for the "evidense," but we've been down this road previously and I know you don't have any.

chezlaw 10-25-2007 08:41 PM

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I'm actually starting to like this guy.

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His fun to play with too.

No ban

jukofyork 10-25-2007 08:41 PM

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mocky 10-25-2007 08:45 PM

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Online clown

99killed 10-25-2007 08:52 PM

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i dont mind if players see partial cards but this crosses the line!

WayAbvPar 10-25-2007 08:59 PM

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4. Players can see whole cards.



So, they're not just turning up the corners?


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nh

sethypooh21 10-25-2007 09:04 PM

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2. A few selected house players win all the time ( I have a lot of evidense supporting this fact with all the mediocre players I know winning way to much.

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In as mediocre player!

sethypooh21 10-25-2007 09:04 PM

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Further, who is this "we" of which you speak?

MicroBob 10-25-2007 09:13 PM

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OP - you have the EIVDENSE. Lets see it!!
Is it similar to the stats you posted in that other thread?

I'm fascinated by your rather narrow-minded insistence that because you believe in a theory it must be correct and that you are rarely wrong.

I'm also fascinated by your lashings in the chat-box anytime you get outplayed or sucked-out on as well as your claims that you are the best player on all of Pokerstars.
Please provide more details about all of this as I'm sure many 2+2'ers are interested.

pokerchap 10-25-2007 09:13 PM

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ur such a tool. I know its rigged and i dont really care.

ckmo 10-25-2007 09:37 PM

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just imagine the good this guy could do for the world if he was half as smart as he thinks he is.....

thac 10-25-2007 09:38 PM

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How are you not [censored] banned yet?

syncmaster 10-25-2007 09:44 PM

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1. Thanks for clearing that up for US.

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3. Why don't you go away untill that "Smoke Settles", then you can play Harrah's online.

questions 10-25-2007 10:36 PM

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I don't know if it's rigged - it may be. As we have seen with Absolute, cheating of all kinds can and does occur. Obviously, if it was impossible to cheat online, there would be no "Gaming Associates" or Kahnawake Gaming Commission. They would have no purpose for existing.

However, out of the millions of people who play poker online, why would they pick on you personally to be the table loser? I'm no statistics genius, but I've compared my pokertracker stats with expected win percentages, and my stats essentially mirror the textbook expected percentages.

I do know that I'm happy with how I play the game, and I feel that my play is better than ever. I do not win every session I play, but for each of my last 5 sessions, I'm up 10% at the end of each session. That's consistency. I won't say that I can necessarily maintain that every single day, but I'm happy that, for now, I seem to have struck the right strategy.

So even if people are cheating, my play is sufficiently good that they aren't making anything off of me.

Suffice it to say that if you believe online is rigged, don't play online.

ematz 10-25-2007 11:08 PM

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We need us some more Nate Odem posts too!

apefish 10-25-2007 11:24 PM

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My theory about onlinepro will be complete if he produces this "evidense" in a word document.

I think there was a separation at birth issue.

Seven_of_Cups 10-25-2007 11:25 PM

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When I say online poker is rigged,

3. Certain accounts set to lose because they know your forced to play longer ( reaching a milestone )

4. Players can see whole cards.

I am rarely wrong in any theory that I develop


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You should try wearing the tin foil hat shiny side out. That works for me.

-zero- 10-25-2007 11:29 PM

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Why the hell do you still play online if you think it's rigged? Wouldn't the smart thing to do be to cash out and only play live? Never mind, I guess you're trying to gather more evidense.

DMoogle 10-25-2007 11:39 PM

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Why the hell do you still play online if you think it's rigged? Wouldn't the smart thing to do be to cash out and only play live? Never mind, I guess you're trying to gather more evidense.

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Earn FPPs.

OnlinePro = Limit version of FGators

OnlinePro 10-26-2007 12:24 AM

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I'm actually starting to like this guy.

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His fun to play with too.

No ban

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1 actual funny responce. Good work Chez.


The one true mystery of the world is how Sethypoo is a winner at poker.

Ive seen him 4 bet with a gut shot on the turn and hit on the river, very suspicious.

DMoogle 10-26-2007 12:34 AM

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I'm actually starting to like this guy.

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His fun to play with too.

No ban

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1 actual funny responce. Good work Chez.


The one true mystery of the world is how Sethypoo is a winner at poker.

Ive seen him 4 bet with a gut shot on the turn and hit on the river, very suspicious.

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JOHNY CA$H 10-26-2007 12:52 AM

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1. Thanks for clearing that up for US.

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3. Why don't you go away untill that "Smoke Settles", then you can play Harrah's online.

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LOL, you don't think that HARRAH'S ONLINE will be rigged?

dlk9s 10-26-2007 12:58 AM

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I'm actually starting to like this guy.

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We need us some more Nate Odem posts too!

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Do you mean Greg Olden?

Bobo Fett 10-26-2007 01:02 AM

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OnlinePro's an entertaining figure to have around...but how is it he doesn't have some kind of appropriate custom title by now? Surely he's worthy of one, he's even been quoted for sethypooh's title! Paging Mr. Haven...

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We need us some more Nate Odem posts too!

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Don't know much about this Nate, but Greg Olden gives OP a run for his money.

Actually, no...Olden crushes OP in a stupid post contest.

a nonymous 10-26-2007 01:09 AM

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sethypooh21 10-26-2007 01:39 AM

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I'm actually starting to like this guy.

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His fun to play with too.

No ban

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1 actual funny responce. Good work Chez.


The one true mystery of the world is how Sethypoo is a winner at poker.

Ive seen him 4 bet with a gut shot on the turn and hit on the river, very suspicious.

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I should change my SN to Sethypooh363, LDO.

sethypooh21 10-26-2007 01:41 AM

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OnlinePro's an entertaining figure to have around...but how is it he doesn't have some kind of appropriate custom title by now? Surely he's worthy of one, he's even been quoted for sethypooh's title! Paging Mr. Haven...

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You give OP way too much credit, unless OP is a Junior at Brown University who writes for the student paper and e-stalked me a few months back...

Bobo Fett 10-26-2007 01:49 AM

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OnlinePro's an entertaining figure to have around...but how is it he doesn't have some kind of appropriate custom title by now? Surely he's worthy of one, he's even been quoted for sethypooh's title! Paging Mr. Haven...

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You give OP way too much credit, unless OP is a Junior at Brown University who writes for the student paper and e-stalked me a few months back...

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LOL...I thought OnlinePro called you an "idiotplayer" in one of his rants a while back and that your title showed up shortly thereafter. I guess my Alzheimer's is kicking in even sooner than I feared it would. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

BTW, I don't think it's too hard to "give OP way too much credit" anyway. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

sethypooh21 10-26-2007 01:58 AM

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No, he calls me a "mediocre player" who check raises with gut shots and raises 95% from the button.

The first email I got from the stalker had "YOU an Idiotplayer!" as the subject, and the text was all gibberish.

ikestoys 10-26-2007 02:04 AM

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1. Bad players are rewarded for the sake of keeping them playing longer. Is that why you are still playing?

2. A few selected house players win all the time ( I have a lot of evidense supporting this fact with all the mediocre players I know winning way to much. Database plz, maybe you arent the best judger of skillz

3. Certain accounts set to lose because they know your forced to play longer ( trying to clear bonus) or ( reaching a milestone )no arguing against this really

4. Players can see hole cards.So can I

5. Other unknown ways of rigging to make it unrealistic. [b] inexploitable imo

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Bobo Fett 10-26-2007 02:26 AM

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I actually wasted time doing a search, and you're quite right...you're "mediocre" in his books.

Pretty much every reference he makes to you inolves the 95% raise stat and 4-betting gutshots. Seems you put him on tilt pretty quick...I imagine it must warm your heart to find him at a table(s) with you.

I'd feel bad about taking this thread OT, but given the OP and subject matter, well...

sethypooh21 10-26-2007 02:53 AM

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Hey, I fully admit to my mediocrity. In fact, I celebrate it because mediocrity means I'm hugely +EV vs. OP...


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