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westhoff 11-28-2007 08:10 PM

$22 deepstack--tough spot with bottom set
 
Poker Stars, $20 + $2 NL Hold'em Tournament, 15/30 Blinds, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: 4,665
SB: 5,705
BB: 9,310
UTG: 6,755
UTG+1: 6,280
Hero (MP1): 6,220
MP2: 6,990
CO: 3,445

Pre-Flop: (45) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP1)
UTG calls 30, UTG+1 calls 30, Hero calls 30, 4 folds, SB calls 15, <font color="red">BB raises to 180</font>, UTG calls 150, UTG+1 calls 150, Hero calls 150, SB folds

Flop: (750) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets 300</font>, UTG calls 300, UTG+1 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to 1,320</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to 9,130 and is All-In</font>, UTG calls 6,275 and is All-In, Hero ???

I'm 100% sure BB has AA. WTF does utg have? I'm still confused. Should this be insta-call?

henrikjs 11-28-2007 08:13 PM

Re: $22 deepstack--tough spot with bottom set
 
Yes, instafistpumpcall

shutEMdown 11-28-2007 08:24 PM

Re: $22 deepstack--tough spot with bottom set
 
um.....YEA! u play that hand to hit exactly what you hit. INSTACALL that ish!

macktyson 11-28-2007 08:38 PM

Re: $22 deepstack--tough spot with bottom set
 
I was at that table too, Villian insta called the All-in so I put him on 55 or 44 and maybe 54s since he limped pre-flop, I didnt think the JJ though. The funny thing is I had AKo that hand and almost made a re-raise preflop to 1000 which would have pushed you out. I was 50/50 on making the re-raise but since I was out of position I just called.

In your spot I call too though since both players were on the loose side.

westhoff 11-28-2007 08:52 PM

Re: $22 deepstack--tough spot with bottom set
 
Yeah, I almost folded. My instinct was saying fold so bad. There's just no way I could fold I figured. He couldve had NFD, 54, 67cc. Oh well. gl if you're still in.

shutEMdown 11-28-2007 09:19 PM

Re: $22 deepstack--tough spot with bottom set
 
dam. set over set huh? tough one.

westhoff 11-28-2007 09:26 PM

Re: $22 deepstack--tough spot with bottom set
 
Yeah, he had JJJ.

LSgambler 11-28-2007 10:52 PM

Re: $22 deepstack--tough spot with bottom set
 
snap call! You just got coolerd.

hamnegger 11-28-2007 11:07 PM

Re: $22 deepstack--tough spot with bottom set
 
i may have folded too.

Marduk 11-29-2007 12:56 AM

Re: $22 deepstack--tough spot with bottom set
 
not having to play this retarded tournament if you lose is enough incentive to call.

vaNq 11-29-2007 01:00 AM

Re: $22 deepstack--tough spot with bottom set
 
snapcall because he pushes combo-draw here imo

OrrLives 11-29-2007 06:54 AM

Re: $22 deepstack--tough spot with bottom set
 
I can never get away from bottom set with 200BB, unless I had a VERY specific read.

BB probably has a big pocket pair and UTG may have one pair. Many bad players will call a big push here with AJ.

You just got unlucky.

JammyDodga 11-29-2007 08:09 AM

Re: $22 deepstack--tough spot with bottom set
 
The fact he flat called the intiall bb raise would make me discount a higher set a bit, just because its multi-way and he'd be giving all the other players the chance to stick around with the flush draw.

I think you have to call here, I'd need a strong read to lay it down and here you should have a read saying its unlikely.

ThePershore 11-29-2007 08:25 AM

Re: $22 deepstack--tough spot with bottom set
 
IMO you can't feasibly expect him to have JJ, although obv he did lol, but the way he played the hand you can discount it pretty heavily.

So the only hand you can expect him to have that beats you right now is specifically 55. There is a much wider range that you do beat (combo draws, 2 pair, TPTK etc) so I don't think you can fold.

Just unlucky on this occasion.

bata2 11-29-2007 10:49 AM

Re: $22 deepstack--tough spot with bottom set
 
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i may have folded too.

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