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sauce123 09-12-2007 06:51 PM

One-Way bet vs Redargoe
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($2500)
UTG ($237)
MP ($765.50)
Hero ($1969)
Button ($985)
SB ($7979.30)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $35</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $135</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $100.

Flop: ($280) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($280) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($280) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $250</font>

runningirl07 09-12-2007 06:54 PM

Re: One-Way bet vs Redargoe
 
Fold this preflop. The way you played it I guess you have to try to push him off whatever but I think you will get called very light here.

tozzy 09-12-2007 06:54 PM

Re: One-Way bet vs Redargoe
 
hate it.
if you want to bet, bet the turn.

JKratzer 09-12-2007 06:57 PM

Re: One-Way bet vs Redargoe
 
i like it

cbboy 09-12-2007 07:03 PM

Re: One-Way bet vs Redargoe
 
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i like it

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Could you please explain why?

cts 09-12-2007 07:06 PM

Re: One-Way bet vs Redargoe
 
poor choice of bet size

JKratzer 09-12-2007 07:10 PM

Re: One-Way bet vs Redargoe
 
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i like it

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Could you please explain why?

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i think opponent will fold a better hand a lot

FionnMac 09-12-2007 07:11 PM

Re: One-Way bet vs Redargoe
 
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poor choice of bet size

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i was just about to post exactly this, obv me and cts are on the same level.

AAismyfriend 09-12-2007 07:11 PM

Re: One-Way bet vs Redargoe
 
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Fold this preflop.

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nit

cbboy 09-12-2007 07:13 PM

Re: One-Way bet vs Redargoe
 
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i like it

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Could you please explain why?

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i think opponent will fold a better hand a lot

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Like AQ/AJ, etc? Do you think hes ever folding a pair? Do you like the size of the bet?

sauce123 09-12-2007 07:14 PM

Re: One-Way bet vs Redargoe
 
bet size is def bad- i guess i was doing it for "balancing"- as im vbetting most hands for pot in this spot- but rly, its still bad

cts 09-12-2007 07:21 PM

Re: One-Way bet vs Redargoe
 
ya but what the heck are you checking down on this board and then value betting so big on the .... gasp, 8!!! riv?

i would probably stab at the pot but i'd do it earlier on -- on the flop vs a lot of ppl for sure, don't know this opponent

JKratzer 09-12-2007 07:24 PM

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bet size is def bad- i guess i was doing it for "balancing"- as im vbetting most hands for pot in this spot- but rly, its still bad

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to be honest that's why i liked it. yes a smaller bet would work a bunch too, but balance is always good for people you play a lot.

sauce123 09-12-2007 07:25 PM

Re: One-Way bet vs Redargoe
 
cts-

AK KQ KJ KT TT JJ QQ 88 98 i probably play like this some percentage of the time vs red.

TT JJ QQ 88 98 r def the most likely

i still completely agree i made a terrible betsize. by betting smaller i widen my vbetting range and widen his calling range very slightly.

mperich 09-12-2007 07:31 PM

Re: One-Way bet vs Redargoe
 
If he folded you prolly had the best hand

-Mike

tozzy 09-12-2007 07:34 PM

Re: One-Way bet vs Redargoe
 
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If he folded you prolly had the best hand

-Mike

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thats not true. hes def folding out better hands like AJ, AQ, QJ, but i still think betsizing and timing (that is, the street) are pretty poor.

sauce123 09-12-2007 07:37 PM

Re: One-Way bet vs Redargoe
 
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If he folded you prolly had the best hand

-Mike

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thats not true. hes def folding out better hands like AJ, AQ, QJ, but i still think betsizing and timing (that is, the street) are pretty poor.

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this just isnt true- plz respond if u have played with redargoe

FionnMac 09-12-2007 07:40 PM

Re: One-Way bet vs Redargoe
 
Surely if he had total air with 0 showdown value, he would bet someone on such a dry flop and good scare card on the turn? i get the feeling he has a hand he wants to showdown..

sauce123 09-12-2007 07:40 PM

Re: One-Way bet vs Redargoe
 
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poor choice of bet size

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cts- in spots like these, in general, should i be value betting less than 3/4 pot as well? and if so, why?

i have 15k hands with this player, so balance is a legitimate issue.

Ship Ship McGipp 09-12-2007 07:54 PM

Re: One-Way bet vs Redargoe
 
bet whaetve ryou want, h e's folding 97% of the time here

he sucks in case you didnt' know, but he says homosexual things int he chat when i try to get him to pla yme hu

EmpireMaker2 09-12-2007 09:27 PM

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bet whaetve ryou want, h e's folding 97% of the time here

he sucks in case you didnt' know, but he says homosexual things int he chat when i try to get him to pla yme hu

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Quit being a dick redargoe is one of the nicest guys online and in real life. He probably has also made 3 times the money you have this year, and is alot better than you give him credit for.

WiltOnTilt 09-12-2007 09:27 PM

Re: One-Way bet vs Redargoe
 
bet the turn

edit: also agree w/ EM2 that redargoe is really underrated as a player.

Redgrape 09-12-2007 09:29 PM

Re: One-Way bet vs Redargoe
 
I think redargoe vbets a lot of the hands himself that you vbet so i like it.

EmpireMaker2 09-12-2007 09:31 PM

Re: One-Way bet vs Redargoe
 
I think argoe will have 1010, JJ, AQ, and AK alot here......I don't really think he folds much. ALso possible he has a random 8 or 9 in his hand.

Ship Ship McGipp 09-12-2007 09:32 PM

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bet whaetve ryou want, h e's folding 97% of the time here

he sucks in case you didnt' know, but he says homosexual things int he chat when i try to get him to pla yme hu

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Quit being a dick redargoe is one of the nicest guys online and in real life. He probably has also made 3 times the money you have this year, and is alot better than you give him credit for.

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ok, please tell him to stop hitting on me, it hasn't been funny since 8th grade and if he keeps telling me how cute i am and that he wants to have gay-secks with me it only makes him look even more like a fool

Ship Ship McGipp 09-12-2007 09:37 PM

Re: One-Way bet vs Redargoe
 
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Quit being a dick

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pot, it was nice having this conversation withy ou, and i sure appreciate you point this out to me; it was my mistake and won't happen in the future.

-kettle

AcTiOnJaCsOn 09-12-2007 09:44 PM

Re: One-Way bet vs Redargoe
 
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bet whaetve ryou want, h e's folding 97% of the time here

he sucks in case you didnt' know, but he says homosexual things int he chat when i try to get him to pla yme hu

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Quit being a dick redargoe is one of the nicest guys online and in real life. He probably has also made 3 times the money you have this year, and is alot better than you give him credit for.

[/ QUOTE ] I obv agree but not because i dont like a e, i just dont get how people bash redargoe when he KEEPS putting up results liek he has and throwugh really all limits. Hes doing soemthing right.

Ship Ship McGipp 09-12-2007 09:51 PM

Re: One-Way bet vs Redargoe
 
he has holes that any good player can identify and laugh at

AcTiOnJaCsOn 09-12-2007 09:56 PM

Re: One-Way bet vs Redargoe
 
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he has holes that any good player can identify and laugh at

[/ QUOTE ] But most of the people he plays against arent good enough to pick out these holes, or there playing to many tables to really exploit them

Parlay Slow 09-12-2007 09:57 PM

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he has holes that any good player can identify and laugh at

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ae you really need to cool it.. you are becoming a caricature of yourself

sauce123 09-12-2007 10:22 PM

Re: One-Way bet vs Redargoe
 
ok sry let me reiterate my thoughts- i dont think this play is good vs- for example- straate, cause hes never folding.

however redargoe folds a fair amnt of his range- tho i think a smaller betsize is better as CTS pounded into my head.

mperich et all, i think ur read of this situation is way off...

ty for ur thoughts,

Sauce

Ship Ship McGipp 09-12-2007 10:26 PM

Re: One-Way bet vs Redargoe
 
redargoe just gets it in his mind he's not folding in a hand and he doesn't fold, he gets it in his mind he's giving up on a hand, and he gives up

it's rly ridiculous


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