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mrcunningham 10-12-2007 05:38 PM

taking a shot at 15/30?
 
Normally I play 6/12. Got table share of bad beat JP. Now thinking about taking a shot at 15/30 at Artichoke Joes or one of the mid-stakes games at Bay 101.

Advice to enhance my likelihood of remaining at the higher level? Keep in mind that I am moving up from 6/12.

thanks, Mr. C

bellatrix 10-12-2007 06:11 PM

Re: taking a shot at 15/30?
 
Not much difference between the 6/12 and 8/16 at Bay101. It jumps right to 20/40 after that. The 20/40 is relatively easy to beat, because it's not the highest game. I've heard different from 15/30 AJ, because it IS the highest game spread. But then I've never played the 15/30 there, so...

Be sure to stick to your bankroll management and you'll do fine. The lower proportional rake at 20/40 helps with the slight increase in skill. Then, just the normal advice as entering any Mid-Limit game (although 15 and 20 are becoming low limit more and more): they are more aggressive, suited connectors go down in value (not a gazillion passive callers) and High cards go up (re-raise with AJo is not wrong). Etc. etc. etc.

mrcunningham 10-12-2007 06:19 PM

Re: taking a shot at 15/30?
 
bellatrix, thanks for this advice.

Another way of asking. Will the AJ 15-30 or Bay 20/40 play more like Ciaffone's Middle Limit Holdem Poker or Miller's SSHE?

bellatrix 10-12-2007 06:28 PM

Re: taking a shot at 15/30?
 
Strange answer: Like a loose Ciaffone or an aggressive SSHE.

If you go an a weekend at sit down around 11pm, you'll have a nice mix of people playing catch-up or on tilt. Plenty of LAGtards at these tables. If you can adjust to that, you're fine.

Both books and their respective styles will make you money, just in different ways. The good thing is that SSHE is still relevant, just that a lot of the situations in the book don't come up, because there aren't that many passive players in there, for which you account in SSHE.

mrcunningham 10-12-2007 06:34 PM

Re: taking a shot at 15/30?
 
Not strange at all, pretty helpful actually.

jesse8888 10-12-2007 06:50 PM

Re: taking a shot at 15/30?
 
mr c,

Congrats on the table share....How much was it ? (if you don't mind me asking).

I have no real advice for the 15/30 at AJs as I'm yet to play in it, but I think spotting you now might be a lot easier [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

StrictlyStrategy 10-12-2007 07:22 PM

Re: taking a shot at 15/30?
 
I'm not being a dick here at all but you aren't ready for 15-30 AT ALL.

jesse8888 10-12-2007 07:55 PM

Re: taking a shot at 15/30?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I'm not being a dick here at all but you aren't ready for 15-30 AT ALL.

[/ QUOTE ]

If you weren't being a dick, you'd probably have sent a pm instead of posting in this forum. But I mean, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.....

One Outer 10-12-2007 09:44 PM

Re: taking a shot at 15/30?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I'm not being a dick here at all but you aren't ready for 15-30 AT ALL.

[/ QUOTE ]

Wow. That's not passive aggressive AT ALL.

mrcunningham 10-12-2007 10:18 PM

Re: taking a shot at 15/30?
 
StrictlyStrategy,

I value you your comment. There's a reason that my subject line has a question mark, and I phrased it as taking a shot.

It would, however, be very helpful if you could clue me in as to your reasons for writing that I'm not ready AT ALL. This would likely be very helpful to me in my progress. I am here to learn, and I very much appreciate constructive criticism.

I'm actually pretty honored that you remember enough about my posts to have such a strong opinion, and take this as a compliment!

Mr. C.

KitCloudkicker 10-12-2007 10:37 PM

Re: taking a shot at 15/30?
 
Mr Cunningham,

It is impossible for me (or anyone) to make a judgment about your ability to beat 15/30 at your gambling establishment based on your posts in this forum. Most of the hands youve posted have been questionably played, but that is the way it should be - thats the reason this forum exists - to help people out with tough hands. This also means your game may need some tuning. However, this does not preclude you from being a solid winner in this game. Indeed, for many of us (me included), we only really become better players when we take the occasional shot. Its easy to become complacent when you stay at the same level too long - its like thinking, "gee, i crush these people, i'm as good as I ever need to be, I dont need to work on my game."

I suggest you take a shot at the game. You should be able to tell within a session if you are seriously overmatched in the game. If you feel comfortable and feel you have an edge, by all means, stick with the game as long as its in your bankroll.

And of course, post all troublesome hands here.

GL,
Kit

Gene Paulson 10-15-2007 12:52 AM

Re: taking a shot at 15/30?
 
You should get the advanced book and you have the small one.One is for good and one bad the limit amounts don't factor only How they play, don't be afraid of the money you can learn to beat tight players just as well as any other also you want to move up in the end so do some scouting while you have the free money. Luck will be in the game no matter and you can only know if you are good enough if you can reason that you are, it is in your mind that whole problem of the cost because the money was fee just save some and use the rest. if you got very much then why worry but if it is not much say 600d or so then that may not be enough a table share cann't be 10 grand so you may be better using it to learn NOLimit and play tournaments were a grand is worth alot more.


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