Sanity Check Stud/8
7 Card Stud High-Low ($2/$4), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $1 (converter)
3rd Street - (0.75 SB) Seat 1: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls___calls Seat 3: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds Seat 6: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises Seat 7: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___brings-in___calls Seat 8: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds Anybody bail on 3rd? 4th Street - (3.75 SB) Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks Seat 6: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks Seat 7: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks 5th Street - (1.88 BB) Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks Seat 6: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks Seat 7: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks 6th Street - (1.88 BB) Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls Seat 6: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets Seat 7: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds fold here? River - (3.88 BB) Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___ I can't fold here. can I? Seat 6: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___bets Total pot: (5.88 BB) |
Re: Sanity Check Stud/8
yes, fold sixth, the pot is tiny. Bet 4th.
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Re: Sanity Check Stud/8
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yes, fold sixth, the pot is tiny. Bet 4th. [/ QUOTE ] I concur |
Re: Sanity Check Stud/8
You should seriously, seriously, open-complete on 3rd. |
Re: Sanity Check Stud/8
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yes, fold sixth, the pot is tiny. Bet 4th. [/ QUOTE ] Yup. Also, bet fourth, bet fourth, and bet fourth. I don't like openlimping in LMP either. |
Re: Sanity Check Stud/8
Complete third bet fourth fold sixth
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Re: Sanity Check Stud/8
Raise third. Bet fourth, fer cryin' out loud. I'd fold sixth. Why would you even consider folding the river?
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Re: Sanity Check Stud/8
Complete 3rd (limping is very weak unless table is full of calling station fish), bet 4th and 5th. If it were still 3 handed on 6th (it wouldn't have been) you fold there.
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RESULTS
Thanks for the good responses.
I did call the river. He rivered a better 8 than mine and scooped. Too weak on 4th, I agree. What surprised me the most was the unanimity of the opinion that I should complete on 3rd. I never limp with any 6 or better, but usually have drawn the line at rough 7s. The strength of the response the other way will get me to change that attitutde when I have an A in the hole, which I assume is the main reason for completing. |
Re: RESULTS
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What surprised me the most was the unanimity of the opinion that I should complete on 3rd. I never limp with any 6 or better, but usually have drawn the line at rough 7s. The strength of the response the other way will get me to change that attitutde when I have an A in the hole, which I assume is the main reason for completing. [/ QUOTE ] This is a very basic principle of gambling that a lot of stud 8 players don't seem to understand. Unless you have a really great hand, you are much better off stealing the antes and bring-in than playing your hand out. In your specific situation, as in most situations, you are far from guaranteed to steal the antes, but it doesn't really matter since your hand is quite solid heads-up, and decent multiway. So the downside of completing and failing to steal, if there is one, is quite small. And even if you don't steal you may well get called by a worse hand. That last point raises another concept a lot of stud 8 players don't seem to get, which is that in heads up pots bigger low cards are generally favorites over lower low cards. For example A76 is a small favorite over 345, even though by conventional rankings 345 would be a better hand. It's not that limping rather than completing in these spots is a big mistake compared to blatant later street errors, it's just that it is fundamentally unsound, yet very very common. |
Re: RESULTS
Great points, thanks.
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