JJ in a 4-way pot, I have no clue what to do here
 

Villain is a TAG, not really creative. Other two callers are bad, and would stack off with any pair, not worried about them. I checked the turn because nothing I beat calls there, and is the river a b/f or c/f? Like, it seems really thin cause I have no idea what calls me that I beat but it feels weird to c/f.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $50.55
SB: $151.50
BB: $25.50
Hero (UTG): $225.55
MP: $128.50
CO: $103.50

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, MP calls $4, 2 folds, SB calls $3.50, BB calls $3

Flop: ($16) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $11</font>, MP calls $11, 2 folds

Turn: ($38) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, MP checks

River: ($38) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $22</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $62</font>, Hero folds

Results: $82 Pot ($3 Rake)
MP mucked and WON $79 (+$42 NET)

Re: JJ in a 4-way pot, I have no clue what to do here
 

This is ok. I might just c/f river though.

Re: JJ in a 4-way pot, I have no clue what to do here
 

Yeh, I think river check/fold is right. By your description it's unlikely he'll make a thin value bet with AT or something, and he'll fold those hands if you make a value bet.

Oh, and I prefer betting bigger on the flop in multiway pots to discourage one call leading to three calls.

Re: JJ in a 4-way pot, I have no clue what to do here
 

c/f &gt; c/c &gt;b/f imo

Re: JJ in a 4-way pot, I have no clue what to do here
 

I'd c/f, a "TAG, not really creative" is very unlikely to value bet worse on the river

Re: JJ in a 4-way pot, I have no clue what to do here
 

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Villain is a TAG, not really creative. Other two callers are bad, and would stack off with any pair, not worried about them. I checked the turn because nothing I beat calls there, and is the river a b/f or c/f? Like, it seems really thin cause I have no idea what calls me that I beat but it feels weird to c/f.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $50.55
SB: $151.50
BB: $25.50
Hero (UTG): $225.55
MP: $128.50
CO: $103.50

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, MP calls $4, 2 folds, SB calls $3.50, BB calls $3

Flop: ($16) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $11</font>, MP calls $11, 2 folds

Turn: ($38) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, MP checks

River: ($38) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $22</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $62</font>, Hero folds

Results: $82 Pot ($3 Rake)
MP mucked and WON $79 (+$42 NET)

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What is an uncreative tag flatting the flop with on that board with 2 left to act? T9, 89, 87?

Re: JJ in a 4-way pot, I have no clue what to do here
 

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Villain is a TAG, not really creative. Other two callers are bad, and would stack off with any pair, not worried about them. I checked the turn because nothing I beat calls there, and is the river a b/f or c/f? Like, it seems really thin cause I have no idea what calls me that I beat but it feels weird to c/f.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $50.55
SB: $151.50
BB: $25.50
Hero (UTG): $225.55
MP: $128.50
CO: $103.50

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, MP calls $4, 2 folds, SB calls $3.50, BB calls $3

Flop: ($16) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $11</font>, MP calls $11, 2 folds

Turn: ($38) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, MP checks

River: ($38) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $22</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $62</font>, Hero folds

Results: $82 Pot ($3 Rake)
MP mucked and WON $79 (+$42 NET)

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What is an uncreative tag flatting the flop with on that board with 2 left to act? T9, 89, 87?

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J8.

C/c is horrid on this river.

Re: JJ in a 4-way pot, I have no clue what to do here
 

I would probally just C/F the river, since you're not going to call a raise. Just as PlzHelpMe, I like C/C better then B/F.

Re: JJ in a 4-way pot, I have no clue what to do here
 

c/c river is bad like it was said, uncreative tag, i just c/f

Re: JJ in a 4-way pot, I have no clue what to do here
 

if he's bad there's still value, if not c/f

Re: JJ in a 4-way pot, I have no clue what to do here
 

I like b/f here.

Re: JJ in a 4-way pot, I have no clue what to do here
 

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I like b/f here.

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for all of you saying c/f i dont get it. Even uncreative tag is betting AT here and even they will bluff sometimes. How strong does our hand look? you cont bet the flop and checked the turn, why wouldnt he value bet AT/KT here?

Re: JJ in a 4-way pot, I have no clue what to do here
 

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I like b/f here.

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for all of you saying c/f i dont get it. Even uncreative tag is betting AT here and even they will bluff sometimes. How strong does our hand look? you cont bet the flop and checked the turn, why wouldnt he value bet AT/KT here?

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x2. I think you are ahead here enough to c/call depending on bet size.

Re: JJ in a 4-way pot, I have no clue what to do here
 

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Villain is a TAG, not really creative. Other two callers are bad, and would stack off with any pair, not worried about them. I checked the turn because nothing I beat calls there, and is the river a b/f or c/f? Like, it seems really thin cause I have no idea what calls me that I beat but it feels weird to c/f.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $50.55
SB: $151.50
BB: $25.50
Hero (UTG): $225.55
MP: $128.50
CO: $103.50

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, MP calls $4, 2 folds, SB calls $3.50, BB calls $3

Flop: ($16) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $11</font>, MP calls $11, 2 folds

Turn: ($38) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, MP checks

River: ($38) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $22</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $62</font>, Hero folds

Results: $82 Pot ($3 Rake)
MP mucked and WON $79 (+$42 NET)

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What is an uncreative tag flatting the flop with on that board with 2 left to act? T9, 89, 87?

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J8.

C/c is horrid on this river.

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An uncreative tag calls a utg raise with J8? I dunno who villain is, but I'm having a really hard time putting him on any sort of reasonable hand other than pair +9, and even then checking back turn seems odd.

Re: JJ in a 4-way pot, I have no clue what to do here
 

It's a strange line from villain but I think you're up against 77, 88,or 1010, and possibly 66 if he thinks you're c-betting with air.

Re: JJ in a 4-way pot, I have no clue what to do here
 

were you looking to c/f the turn?
I think river is a c/f for reasons already stated

Re: JJ in a 4-way pot, I have no clue what to do here
 

this line looks good to me.

Re: JJ in a 4-way pot, I have no clue what to do here
 

i can see firing $12 on the river with the intention of b/f. c/f or 22/f look fine, c/c is blah, i would not c/c for more than $22 i guess