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This happened in some small town named "Cornwall" which is in Ontario (about 4 hours or so from Toronto i believe). What on earth makes a kid think that this is okay? This just seems too ridiculous to even be true....

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I would have thought that only a KKK member would be offended by a KKK costume. Like, the point is to make fun of the KKK, no?

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I would have thought that only a KKK member would be offended by a KKK costume. Like, the point is to make fun of the KKK, no?

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even so, it's still a terrible idea to wear something like that to school. I mean, the school will obviously assume the worst, and many people will find it offensive....

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Prince Harry wore a swastika emblem to a halloween party. lol.

You really expect much more tact from some random Canadian forest-dweller than Prince Harry?

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You really expect much more tact from some random Canadian forest-dweller than Prince Harry?

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Is this a trick question?

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I would have thought that only a KKK member would be offended by a KKK costume. Like, the point is to make fun of the KKK, no?

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even so, it's still a terrible idea to wear something like that to school. I mean, the school will obviously assume the worst, and many people will find it offensive....

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Yeah I'm the wrong one to speak on this subject. I don't think that rules should be made by stupid people, and I think it takes a good deal of stupidity to be offended by any costume.

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This kid is genius. Hilarious choice for halloween costume, I dont think he was being very serious with this.

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some kid I knew in grade 5 did the same thing and was sent home from school for the day, but not disciplined. He certainly was not dressing as a KKK member in jest, more like an homage. Coincidentally (or maybe not) this was also in a small Ontario town.

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They wore the white robes, pointed hoods and carried a noose. The robes bore a logo of the hate-inciting group on the chest.

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This happened at my school one year after I had graduated.
It was halloween 1989 and the 2 kids were actually wearing their granddaddys' authentic KKK outfits.
School sent them home or something but it wasn't over there.

Their families argued that if an african-american student can wear a Malcolm X t-shirt or something referring to Black Power then whites should be able to do the equivilent with White Power or Klan costumes.

The real KKK got involved in the issue somehow and arranged to march in my home-town backed by the ACLU.
Some Nazi Skin-heads joined them.

Oxford, OH is a small town of about 8k to 10k residents and about 18k college students at Miami University. So this was pretty big news around the area.

The police were called on to 'protect' the KKK and skin-heads from the angry protestors who turned out.
Many people stayed home on the belief that ignoring them was the best option.
But a lot of people turned out and ended up being arrested for throwing rocks that hit the cops, etc.

Cops were only doing their job of course and really didn't want to be doing it...but some of the idiots looked at the cops as being Klan sympathizers.
A few people also decided it was a good idea to bang on the police-station's front door until it broke. I think they were mad at one of the cop's when he arrested a copuple of the protestors.

I was there with a tape-recorder for the college radio-station as well as a video-camera for a potential student-documentary which I never got around to doing.
I should still have the tape somewhere.

another reporter who I know was there got clobbered by a pretty big rock and it shattered the radio station's rather pricey tape-recorder.
I came away unscathed.

The demonstration itself was incredibly lame. Just a couple dozen KKK and skin-heads walked around the streets, then met uptown at the main-square and said a few things that nobody could hear over the protestors' screaming. Then they left.
A couple of them were bleeding a little from having been hit by a rock or a bottle.

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Their families argued that if an african-american student can wear a Malcolm X t-shirt or something referring to Black Power then whites should be able to do the equivilent with White Power or Klan costumes.

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The KKK and Malcolm X are clearly equivalent.

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I don't get the uproar at all. Costumes are supposed to be scary, right? What's scarier than a Klansman? Also, I see costumes every year of:

Hitler/Nazis
Osama bin Laden
Leatherface
Unabomber
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etc.

Now they're suddenly getting offended?

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Its a costume. These people need to stop their bitching.

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I see nothing wrong with this, honestly. well "nothing" might be inaccurate as it's obviously in poor taste, but it is still completely reasonable imo.

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I would have thought that only a KKK member would be offended by a KKK costume. Like, the point is to make fun of the KKK, no?

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even so, it's still a terrible idea to wear something like that to school. I mean, the school will obviously assume the worst, and many people will find it offensive....

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Yeah I'm the wrong one to speak on this subject. I don't think that rules should be made by stupid people, and I think it takes a good deal of stupidity to be offended by
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would you feel the same way if a cross had been burned on your yard?

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whether you are personally offended, i think it's silly to say that no one should be offended by this b/c it's just a costume.

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I would have thought that only a KKK member would be offended by a KKK costume. Like, the point is to make fun of the KKK, no?

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even so, it's still a terrible idea to wear something like that to school. I mean, the school will obviously assume the worst, and many people will find it offensive....

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Yeah I'm the wrong one to speak on this subject. I don't think that rules should be made by stupid people, and I think it takes a good deal of stupidity to be offended by
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would you feel the same way if a cross had been burned on your yard?

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I'd be pretty disturbed if people were burning anything in my yard. If I later saw someone dressed up as whoever burned anything in my yard I'd have to be an idiot to equate the two incidents and be at all disturbed by it.

The more I think about it, the less I think of people who are able to be offended.

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I don't get the uproar at all. Costumes are supposed to be scary, right? What's scarier than a Klansman?

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It seems like every year at Halloween I bring this up.

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He was dressed up as a ghost, elle dee oh.

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Duke wins thread

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This happened in some small town named "Cornwall" which is in Ontario (about 4 hours or so from Toronto i believe). What on earth makes a kid think that this is okay? This just seems too ridiculous to even be true....

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This is surprising to you? I am sure that there are hundreds of kids suspended on Halloween around America.

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If I later saw someone dressed up as whoever burned anything in my yard I'd have to be an idiot to equate the two incidents and be at all disturbed by it.

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no one is accusing the kids of being in the kkk.

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If I later saw someone dressed up as whoever burned anything in my yard I'd have to be an idiot to equate the two incidents and be at all disturbed by it.

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no one is accusing the kids of being in the kkk.

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I don't think you get it.

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no, i think i get what he's saying i just disagree (obv)

correct me if i'm wrong: he's saying there is no link b/t these kids wearing a kkk costume and the actual actions of the kkk and as such there's no reason to be offended.


also, i don't think there's any reason to assume the intention was to make fun of the kkk. did they say that it was?

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no, i think i get what he's saying i just disagree (obv)

correct me if i'm wrong: he's saying there is no link b/t these kids wearing a kkk costume and the actual actions of the kkk and as such there's no reason to be offended.


also, i don't think there's any reason to assume the intention was to make fun of the kkk. did they say that it was?

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Close. I just don't think that offensive behavior should ever be stopped when the only reason to stop it is because it's offensive.

Like, you can't yell fire in a crowded theater because you can actually harm people because of the ensuing chaos. You don't walk around naked in an elementary school because you could screw up little kid's minds. There is always another reason beyond the "that's offensive" concept.

In this case, they're effectively preventing them from doing something that does absolutely no harm beyond making someone think that they're acting in poor taste. The next step would be to ban other costumes because they're too scary, which is kind of the whole point of halloween. Really scaring someone is worse for their psyche than offending their sensibilities.

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When he understood dressing up as Hitler wasnt cool he had to make up some ghost-costume really fast?

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Maybe they are really members and Halloween was their cover?

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KKK costume is pretty awesome imo

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Tshilombo, a black Grade 12 student, was shocked to see at least three of her peers, all of First Nations descent, dressed up like members of the KKK Wednesday.

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What does it mean to be 'of First Nations descent'. Is that the PC way to call somebody white in Canada?

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It's the PC way to call someone a native american or American indian or whatever the technical PC name is today.

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In this case, they're effectively preventing them from doing something that does absolutely no harm beyond making someone think that they're acting in poor taste. The next step would be to ban other costumes because they're too scary, which is kind of the whole point of halloween. Really scaring someone is worse for their psyche than offending their sensibilities.

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i see where you are coming from and agree to an extent. i'm not talking about whether they should have been sent home, although i'm not sorry that they were. i just don't see how you can say someone shouldn't be offended by the wearing of the costume given the history of the kkk. it isn't comparable to someone wearing a hockey mask and carrying a plastic knife.

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I think everybody is missing the most retarded point in the in the story:

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A mother of a student, who didn't want to be identified, was so horrified she pulled her daughter out of school for the day.

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WTF? People like this should have their kids taken away from them.

As for the rest of the story, I think its pretty reasonable that a teenage black girl would be offended by someone dressing up as the KKK. I'm not offended by that stuff, but I think its a reasonable response on her part. I hope this ends with the kids apologizing for being idiots and nothing else. I hate it when schools overreact to situations like this.

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I would have thought that only a KKK member would be offended by a KKK costume. Like, the point is to make fun of the KKK, no?

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even so, it's still a terrible idea to wear something like that to school. I mean, the school will obviously assume the worst, and many people will find it offensive....

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Yeah I'm the wrong one to speak on this subject. I don't think that rules should be made by stupid people, and I think it takes a good deal of stupidity to be offended by any costume.

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I disagree with this. It's basically saying you have to be dumb to be offended at all more or less, because if you think being offended by a measly "costume" is stupid, then I think you would have to expand that to words as well since on the surface they're just as harmless.

In general I think people do get offended too easily, like when a school is forced to not use the word Christmas and instead replace it with the word holiday or something because some parents decide to make a big deal over semantics.

What I don't like about this is that it's something that is obviously going to cause controversy and piss people off, and nothing good can come from it, only bad. It may not offend us typical white males, but that doesn't mean everybody else should feel that way. If I was black, I probably would be offended by something like that. Likewise, I'd be offended if somebody called me the N word in a clear derogatory manner. Anyways, people that abuse the freedom to say and do what they want tend to piss me off. A good example was the Phelps church that had all those ridiculous anti-homosexual picket signs and doing stuff like protesting at the funerals of fallen U.S. soliders, saying that they deserved to die and a whole bunch of insane things. I was extremely offended and shocked after watching this documentary on these people. Do you think it's "stupid" to be offended by that or get upset over it? They didn't use anything but words, after all.

Doing things that are so obviously in bad taste that can only be hurtful and cause controversy is wrong, IMO. Freedom of speech blah blah, stop being a [censored] douche for the hell of it, period.

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In this case, they're effectively preventing them from doing something that does absolutely no harm beyond making someone think that they're acting in poor taste. The next step would be to ban other costumes because they're too scary, which is kind of the whole point of halloween. Really scaring someone is worse for their psyche than offending their sensibilities.

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It's most definitely not harmless. Stuff like that can very easily cause a riot, which could lead to several bad outcomes.

Also, I thought this part of the article was pretty humorous. Love the subtlety:

'Another student, Chris Sabourin, called the costumes "stupid" and "offensive."'

HOLD THE PRESS! SOMEBODY FOUND THIS OFFENSIVE!>!#

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This happened in some small town named "Cornwall" which is in Ontario (about 4 hours or so from Toronto i believe). What on earth makes a kid think that this is okay? This just seems too ridiculous to even be true....

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A jewish friend of mine dressed up like hitler last year for halloween. No joke his costume was a huge hit, with people saying, OMG its hitler, kill those jews to him as he walked by. Later in the night a girl punched him in the face though.

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It's no more offensive than the geisha/terrorist/chinaman costumes I see every Halloween.

Also, I think this case gets more attention simply because most of the KKK's victims, blacks, are currently socially untouchable.

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I would have thought that only a KKK member would be offended by a KKK costume. Like, the point is to make fun of the KKK, no?

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even so, it's still a terrible idea to wear something like that to school. I mean, the school will obviously assume the worst, and many people will find it offensive....

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Yeah I'm the wrong one to speak on this subject. I don't think that rules should be made by stupid people, and I think it takes a good deal of stupidity to be offended by any costume.

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I disagree with this. It's basically saying you have to be dumb to be offended at all more or less, because if you think being offended by a measly "costume" is stupid, then I think you would have to expand that to words as well since on the surface they're just as harmless.

In general I think people do get offended too easily, like when a school is forced to not use the word Christmas and instead replace it with the word holiday or something because some parents decide to make a big deal over semantics.

What I don't like about this is that it's something that is obviously going to cause controversy and piss people off, and nothing good can come from it, only bad. It may not offend us typical white males, but that doesn't mean everybody else should feel that way. If I was black, I probably would be offended by something like that. Likewise, I'd be offended if somebody called me the N word in a clear derogatory manner. Anyways, people that abuse the freedom to say and do what they want tend to piss me off. A good example was the Phelps church that had all those ridiculous anti-homosexual picket signs and doing stuff like protesting at the funerals of fallen U.S. soliders, saying that they deserved to die and a whole bunch of insane things. I was extremely offended and shocked after watching this documentary on these people. Do you think it's "stupid" to be offended by that or get upset over it? They didn't use anything but words, after all.

Doing things that are so obviously in bad taste that can only be hurtful and cause controversy is wrong, IMO. Freedom of speech blah blah, stop being a [censored] douche for the hell of it, period.

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Yeah, I later said that people who ever feel "offense" are stupid, so I figure that takes care of the first part.

To keep the Christmas rebuttal short, I think it's stupid too. We agree on that. I love that holiday, and don't care what it's called. It's just a name. I'd obviously like it more if the Christians hadn't bastardized (look at the pun) a perfectly good pagan holiday, but it's just a word after all.

Let's see... next paragraph. Yeah it's still stupid to be offended. No exceptions. The protestors are definitely making asses of themselves, but the price to stop them from doing that is too high.

I think it's wrong to be a jackass too. Don't hire those protestors, don't befriend them, and don't do nice things for them. I don't. I guess I think that all protestors are stupid as well.

Anyhow, the proper way to respond to a "first post" or whatever canadians call Chinese people who came over here 10,000 years ago who is making light of the slaughter of your ancestors is to dress up as "the measles."

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This happened in some small town named "Cornwall" which is in Ontario (about 4 hours or so from Toronto i believe). What on earth makes a kid think that this is okay? This just seems too ridiculous to even be true....

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A jewish friend of mine dressed up like hitler last year for halloween. No joke his costume was a huge hit, with people saying, OMG its hitler, kill those jews to him as he walked by. Later in the night a girl punched him in the face though.

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Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. --not me

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At my college a black guy did this and it was pretty funny, he was really outgoing and well known and was basically doing that whole Chappelle thing with it.

Some random white dude doing it probably would have got his ass beat though.