River decision agains twin-caracas
 

We haven't history, but i knew he was awful good about 1-2 years ago. Probably still good.
Probably very laggish. Did you value this river?


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BB ($1015)
UTG ($476.50)
MP ($831.25)
CO ($925)
Button ($100)
Hero ($1067)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $40</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $130</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $90.

Flop: ($270) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($270) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $160</font>, CO calls $160.

River: ($590) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO bets $635, Hero - folds.
Final Pot: $590

Re: River decision agains twin-caracas
 

Why no bet on flop?

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get it in on the flop. c/f the river looks ok.

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get it in on the flop

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So you think we have 35-30% equity?

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get it in on the flop

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So you think we have 35-30% equity?

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We most likely have (ad in some pure bluffs, and we should have even better EQ):

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 68.128% 66.99% 01.14% 375108351 6357595.50 { JJ+, 99, AhQh, AhJh, KhQh, 8h7h }
Hand 1: 31.872% 30.74% 01.14% 172099866 6357595.50 { KQo }

Re: River decision agains twin-caracas
 

he can have 22 and T8 and whatever else, too.

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get it in on the flop

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So you think we have 35-30% equity?

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We most likely have (ad in some pure bluffs, and we should have even better EQ):

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 68.128% 66.99% 01.14% 375108351 6357595.50 { JJ+, 99, AhQh, AhJh, KhQh, 8h7h }
Hand 1: 31.872% 30.74% 01.14% 172099866 6357595.50 { KQo }

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am I missing something?
this is the equity preflop right?
if you put that range against KQo, you have 20% equity

Re: River decision agains twin-caracas
 

Grunch.

I fold preflop, but that's because "I'm a tagfish who always folds" to borrow some 2+2ers location (is it spino or something?) I definitely make it around 200 on the flop. Turn looks fine. As for river: How light will he valuebet here?

Disclaimer: I only play this high live.

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get it in on the flop. c/f the river looks ok.

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twp, serious question here.

you want to bet 175 or 200 and call a shove here, yea?

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pot it and call a 2/3 pot-sized shove, yeah.

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don't like bet/call flop, as played bet river or c/c, def not folding

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im checking this to twin on every street

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On the river against twin I think this is a good check fold. But assuming I had no history with him, I would probably bet/call the flop.

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pot it and call a 2/3 pot-sized shove, yeah.

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If you're really desperate to get the money in so badly, how about crai instead of BET [censored] CALL?

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bet/call flop w/ K-high? huh?

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bet/call flop w/ K-high? huh?

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it's twp - he puts his opponent on exactly what cards he needs to have pot odds to call

so obv he's got a flush draw, or AJ, or 89.

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Am I crazy for being pretty happy about value shoving river? The king is such a bluff card for us on the turn and there is no reason why we can't two barrel it. I feel like on the turn he has some pair less than a king probably w/ one heart alot.

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Villain would have probably shoved any good made hand like sets, two pair on the turn, so you can discount it from his range. I also think he would have bet this flop with a flushdraw? Which also makes it less likely for him to have a flush. He would have bet J9/KJ on the flop and probably 4bet AK preflop.

He also wouldn't bluff the river with AhJx since he has showdown value, or some sort of other hand with showdown value...

This means there's not a whole bunch of hands left that beat you. Maybe QT, a slowplayed flush or K9 (unlikely). He could have called the turn to push you of on the river, or he called the turn with 1 heart and also tries to push you off. With this in mind a rivercall wouldn't be too bad imo.

I would bet/fold or c/r flop allin though. Bet/calling seems pretty spewy.

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its twin [censored] caracas. wait till you flop top pair and stack his ass.

edit: i was just looking at the flop. i would call this river honestly.

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i think bet/calling this flop is terrible. i think this is fine as played i'd shove river. given the check i'd c/f.