lil wayne
 

i've always liked lil wayne. he's usually entertaining and he has some decent skills, but i did not realize that A LOT of people have him ranked very highly in their top emcee list, often putting him in the top 3 or so, and i am like, wtf? can somebody please tell me why they think lil wayne is so good?

just as a fwiw, some of his cameos lately have been utter trash, some of the worst verses i've heard in a long time esp from a "major star."

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I used to feel the same way you did. Download the discography w/all the mixtapes. He's rediculously prolific at a really high level.

"Bitch make me rich...if not, make me cum then make me gritz." holla

edit: not top 3 though ldo

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CDC,

I feel the same way. Here's what I said about lil wayne's cameo on Idlewild when it came out:

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Also, how many times do you think Dre and Big Boi made Lil' Wayne re-do his verse on Hollywood Divorce before saying, "[censored] it, this [censored] can't rap for [censored], but we already said we'd pay him. Print it."

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and who are the other 2 in "everyone's" top 3?

im a fan of wayne but i admit that hes one of the "hottest out" because his output is 100x the volume of anyone else lately

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CDC,

I feel the same way. Here's what I said about lil wayne's cameo on Idlewild when it came out:

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Also, how many times do you think Dre and Big Boi made Lil' Wayne re-do his verse on Hollywood Divorce before saying, "[censored] it, this [censored] can't rap for [censored], but we already said we'd pay him. Print it."

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Am I a noob for thinking that it's a really sick verse?

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Da Draught 3 is such am amazing mixtape.

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dedication 2 > drought 3

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"hey mister toilet, i'm the shyt"

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He was better when he was 13. Now sometime he just sounds ridiculous. His verse on the first Chamillionaire CD is what made me wish someone cut out his tongue.

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i'm the opposite,i never really got why people were going on about lil wayne till i downloaded da drought 3,its incredible,i gather his mixtapes are why people are ranking him top 3,his guest verses are more for business or whatever,though i have heard some great guest spots by him too.

i must have a look for decication 2 so...

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Da Draught 3 is such am amazing mixtape.

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Listen to this double-cd mixtape from start to finish and tell me that he's not one of the best well-known guys around, if not the best.

http://files.livemixtapes.com/promo/dadrought3.zip


There's a link to download the entire double album.

(Mods don't worry, he released it online for free, so its not stealing)

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I always WTF'd at people saying he was the best or even close, because I remember his old Cash Money stuff and think about the crap that hits the radio, but eventually I started listening to the last two years worth of mixtapes and while it wasn't really easily digestible I got hooked.

Most of his cameo stuff that hits the radio can be pretty bad, but the scope of his work on all the mixtapes is ridiculous, seriously the guy is a total workhorse that really cares about his craft, I hate "best emcee alive" debates but when I think about it I can't think of any other guy that's really close to him at this point.

EDIT: I am absolutely itching for the official C3

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tag

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and who are the other 2 in "everyone's" top 3?


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Not sure about the other one, but Cassidy has to be on everyone's top 3.

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Had drought 3 for a while and it was awesome, loved it, and listening to dedication 2 right now and it's pretty sweet, any other albums to dl?


"dun drink cristal anymore just pour it on white bitches head"

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i can't believe kanye let lil wayne keep that verse in barry bonds. it is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo bad.

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I have been trying to avoid thsi thread all day and finally caved.

Lil Wayne is [censored] horrible and if you like him you are making hip-hop suck and I am going to take that personally and say unkind things about you in the mod forum or something.

CDC,

Want to cry?

Jay-Z was supposed to be on that song, but didn't make it to the studio or something.

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i can't believe kanye let lil wayne keep that verse in barry bonds. it is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo bad.

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That whole track was terrrrible and I cannot fathom how it made that album. I equally disliked "Did It Before," such a seemingly awesome combo that doesn't make it happen for some reason.

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He puts out TONS of material. A lot of it is sick good. A lot of it is meh. He has grown as a rapper throughout the last 5-10 years more than...well EVERY OTHER RAPPER ALIVE. He's creative, he tries new/different flows and evolves. At some point he's going to be the "best rapper alive" simply by attrition.

Btw, his cameo stuff is fine/solid. I've actually liked several R&B songs I never would listen to simply b/c of his verse. He breaks it up enough that even when his verse is "meh" it gives the track a fitting punch anyway.

I can't listen to him being interviewed though...it's so painful.

Yugoslav

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Dids,

Please list off some good current albums/artists to check out, I am out of the loop and need new music. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Re: lil wayne
 

Aesop Rock jsut dropped a new album. He was all over MTV, it was weird.

New Hangar 18 coming shortly.

Sad Clown Bad Dub 10 is available through the 5th element website.

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Aesop Rock jsut dropped a new album. He was all over MTV, it was weird.

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Haha I saw him all over Myspace and got wigged out, can't even imagine MTV. Good to see though. Thank ya.

Re: lil wayne
 

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Aesop Rock jsut dropped a new album. He was all over MTV, it was weird.

New Hangar 18 coming shortly.

Sad Clown Bad Dub 10 is available through the 5th element website.

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leave the nerd rap ads at Philaflava please, i lurk here to get away from that crap

Re: lil wayne
 

Dids,

stop hatin.



ps- there are about 50000000 rappers that are "what is wrong about hip hop". a large percentage of them are from the south. lil wayne is an exception.

have you listened to the whole drought 3 mixtape that i linked to?

lil wayne's cameos are for the large part awful.

his commercial Tha Carter CDs are mediocre at best.

this mixtape is awesome. i've probably listened to this whole CD 75-100 times and its sooo good.

my recent CD downloads/purchases were Aesop Rock, Brother Ali, RA the Rugged Man, Murs, Jurassic 5, and plenty other groups that you often list and praise. i can't stand commercial rap. but i love lil wayne.

please ignore the fact that he often raps about some awful things, has some misses. If you accept it for what it is, he is the absolute best at what he does.


Him and Juelz Santana are working on a full length CD based off their "I Can't Feel my Face" thing, and its gonna be great, and I'm gonna love it.

that is all

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Aesop Rock jsut dropped a new album. He was all over MTV, it was weird.

New Hangar 18 coming shortly.

Sad Clown Bad Dub 10 is available through the 5th element website.

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dids you missed the memo, it's ok to like underground AND mainstream stuff now. no one's gonna care if they see a Da Drought 3 in your backpack

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Yes, because clearly my dislike for Wayne is because I want to be popular with a bunch of people on the internet and not because I think he's a horrible MC.

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if you don't like backpack rap, try the jacka, team knoc, the click, yaboy, san quinn

i like all rap, but folks who put weezy top 3 mcs all time just make me think they don't listen to much rap

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Yes, because clearly my dislike for Wayne is because I want to be popular with a bunch of people on the internet and not because I think he's a horrible MC.

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coming into a thread about a mainstream mc and talking about Aesop Rock makes it look like you're just trying to name drop for cred, whether or not it's true.

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does anybody think lil wayne is getting overexposed ,it seems like within the last year he has on been on sooo many miztapes , im rly started to get a lil tired of him being on everything (eventho i think he's real good)

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Yes, because clearly my dislike for Wayne is because I want to be popular with a bunch of people on the internet and not because I think he's a horrible MC.

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coming into a thread about a mainstream mc and talking about Aesop Rock makes it look like you're just trying to name drop for cred, whether or not it's true.

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HEY SUB GENIUS.

PLEASE GO BACK AND REVIEW THE SERIES OF POSTS THAT LEAD ME TO POSTING ABOUT AESOPROCK.

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top 3 ALL TIME????

must be a 16 year old...

i'll admit i've come around on him, from 'just another down south rapper' to 'ridiculously hot sometimes', but i have to point out that 'sometimes'...

the birdman album was fire. other things have been fire.

but let's not start talking top 3, or top 10, or probably even top 25...he may slide in at #22 or something, but jay-z, nas and rakim, and one of those is bumped from top 3 by....lil wayne???

no, sir..

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Admission:

"Been handling the game so long my thumb's bruised" or whatever was a hot line.

Wanye has decent punchlines, but that's the apex of his ability.

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dids,

maybe you just personally don't like lil wayne's flow or something, but don't try to make the assertion that lil wayne is bad for hip hop. don't act like you're some authority on good and bad hip hop.

lil wayne is at the elite level of hip hop these days, and will someday supplant jay-z. not yet though.

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Holy crap Jay-Z is aweful. Why does anyone listen to any of his crap? His ryhmes suck, they're unoriginal and tired. His uh-uh uh-huh, huh-huh crap in EVERY SONG!OJJH AV%Y #O YP%A is beyond irritating.

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holy [censored], walk it off off dedication 2 is amazing.

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Him and Juelz Santana are working on a full length CD based off their "I Can't Feel my Face" thing, and its gonna be great, and I'm gonna love it.


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OMG awesome.

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Nobodies posted this yet? WTF?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TpQvuy5v3wg

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Dids,

I too was avoiding this thread but you've lured me in.

Saying Lil Wayne is a crappy MC is outright ridiculous. You can say you don't like his songs/voice/style, etc.
But you can't say he's not talented.

That isn't debatable.

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Nobodies posted this yet? WTF?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TpQvuy5v3wg

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omg im gonna be weezie for halloween

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And when I was 5, my favorite movie was the Gremlins
Aint got [censored] to do with this, but I just thought that I should mention,
You looking for devine and the little intervention,
And them birds don't fly, without my permission,
I'm probably in the sky, flying with the fishes,
Or maybe in the ocean, swimming with the pigeons