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The Velour Fog 08-19-2007 01:28 AM

2/4 sexy time with draw
 
villain is TAG, pretty agressive and seems good. bets scare cards, fires multiple barrels.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button ($465.90)
SB ($176)
Hero ($622)
UTG ($325.54)
MP ($400)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $16</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $12.

Flop: ($34) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $28</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $70</font>, MP calls $42.

Turn: ($174) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $111</font>, Hero calls $536 (All-In) ( villain has ~200 left )

willw9 08-19-2007 01:31 AM

Re: 2/4 sexy time with draw
 
Mehh I like it, but I'd like it a lot more if he had like $300 left. He may just say [censored] it with like JJ.

David1234 08-19-2007 01:33 AM

Re: 2/4 sexy time with draw
 
I think this is bad unless you have some reason to believe hes calling your flop raises light and can possibly call and try to bluff later. I would probably just bet or c/f on that turn. I think once he bets, you are really in bad shape.

David1234 08-19-2007 01:35 AM

Re: 2/4 sexy time with draw
 
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Mehh I like it, but I'd like it a lot more if he had like $300 left. He may just say [censored] it with like JJ.

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i dont understand how he would have JJ here, and if you say he does then betting is clearly better

Mossberg 08-19-2007 01:36 AM

Re: 2/4 sexy time with draw
 
Not sexy imo. I think he checks behind the QJ/KJ pretty often, so I don't think you fold out anything better at all really.

willw9 08-19-2007 01:37 AM

Re: 2/4 sexy time with draw
 
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Mehh I like it, but I'd like it a lot more if he had like $300 left. He may just say [censored] it with like JJ.

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i dont understand how he would have JJ here, and if you say he does then betting is clearly better

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I was just making up a plausible hand..I'm basically just pointing out that he has put a lot of money into this pot on a fairly dry board and getting the odds he is getting, he may stack off fairly light.

willw9 08-19-2007 01:37 AM

Re: 2/4 sexy time with draw
 
Also, I definetely B/C this turn, something like $140.

phobos 08-19-2007 01:41 AM

Re: 2/4 sexy time with draw
 
i think you could just call this flop for the same reason you should c/f the turn or maybe just fire again and call a shove

you aren't really repping much and villain is unlikely to fold.

David1234 08-19-2007 01:41 AM

Re: 2/4 sexy time with draw
 
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Mehh I like it, but I'd like it a lot more if he had like $300 left. He may just say [censored] it with like JJ.

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i dont understand how he would have JJ here, and if you say he does then betting is clearly better

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I was just making up a plausible hand..I'm basically just pointing out that he has put a lot of money into this pot on a fairly dry board and getting the odds he is getting, he may stack off fairly light.

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ok but i think his range here is pretty much, insta calling shove or insta folding

catcher193 08-19-2007 03:00 AM

Re: 2/4 sexy time with draw
 
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Not sexy imo. I think he checks behind the QJ/KJ pretty often, so I don't think you fold out anything better at all really.

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yes Kx is calling pretty quickly.

aislephive 08-19-2007 03:34 AM

Re: 2/4 sexy time with draw
 
Betting the turn is a lot better. He isn't bet/folding anything but air, especially to you. I suppose he could have floated with the same hand as you or a weak draw, but meh, don't like it still.

Erik W 08-19-2007 04:49 AM

Re: 2/4 sexy time with draw
 
I like it if you don't do it too often.
I usually do this with a combodraw when that A hits.
Either he checks behind and I get a free card or he needs a very strong hand to call the raise and if he calls you have outs and he will be much more careful to bet weak made hands in the future on the turn.

You are also repping a very strong hand like a set or 2p much more than a draw so a one pair hand should not be able to call and if they do you can value bet them to death later on.

A bet on the turn from you smells real fischy. It looks like a pure bluff that you let go to a raise or a draw.


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