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praios 11-21-2007 01:02 PM

2pair against fish donking river how to play on river
 
$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
3 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
BTN (<font color="#0000cc">$894.40</font>)
SB (<font color="#0000cc">$341.60</font>)
Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$415.30</font>)

Pre-flop: ($6, 3 players) Hero is BB 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, SB calls $2, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $14</font>, SB calls $10

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($34, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $21</font>, SB calls $21

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($76, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $60</font>, SB calls $60

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($196, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $132</font>, Hero calls $132

Final Pot: $912





46/18/1.3/32 villian river af 2.0

cbboy 11-21-2007 01:08 PM

Re: 2pair against fish donking river how to play on river
 
Convert the mother [censored] hand. Why are you so [censored] stubborn about that?

overAchiever 11-21-2007 01:12 PM

Re: 2pair against fish donking river how to play on river
 
I would call this because I think I will win atleast 1 out of 3 times, though he prob river you with better 2 pr?? Would be easier to decide if you had a larger hand sample on him and knew better his street by street aggression frequencies.

As I have said many times before, I am not very good at making laydowns in somewhat close spots. Intuitavly, it would seem like he rivered a pretty good hand or was slowplaying because he can not really expect you to fold when you bet the first two streets (meaning it is unlikely he is on a bluff, and also there are not really obvious draws that missed that he was bluffing ..... so maybe this is a fold).

I don't think it is huge plusEV to call, I place value on learning so I call when I think it is pretty close ....

overAchiever 11-21-2007 01:14 PM

Re: 2pair against fish donking river how to play on river
 
oh yeah, would be nice if you converted, easier to see pot size on each street and you will probably get better quality responses and more responses .... here is link to a converter:

http://www.leggopoker.com/index.php?page=hh

DanJ. 11-21-2007 01:15 PM

Re: 2pair against fish donking river how to play on river
 
lol axefl82...wow...wowow. wow.

i think i would fold river, dont know wat else he can haave? like is he c/c 2 streets just to bluff when the flush hits? You're not beating any other 2 pairs.

praios 11-21-2007 01:16 PM

Re: 2pair against fish donking river how to play on river
 
jo my mistake now its converted

cbboy 11-21-2007 01:18 PM

Re: 2pair against fish donking river how to play on river
 
Thank you for converting the hand. It makes it a lot easier to read. And I agree with dan here. You are beat way too often. And I bet a bit more on the turn and river.

Requin 11-21-2007 01:19 PM

Re: 2pair against fish donking river how to play on river
 
Can't figure out his hand, river really doesn't improve him (unless he has 89ss?) and slowplaying a big hand that much on that flop/turn doesn't make much sense...
I'd just put him on 57 or 8s9s and call 88+ I think.

Actually I'm just looking at his stats, if he's bad I'd let it go here.




Ok in that case I fold.

praios 11-21-2007 01:23 PM

Re: 2pair against fish donking river how to play on river
 
32 is his wts and i had aout 80 hands from him.

and he can have a flush on river given his 32 wts he can probably call 2times not hving the right odds

Renton 11-21-2007 01:44 PM

Re: 2pair against fish donking river how to play on river
 
i would bet more on the flop and i think the river is a pretty easy fold for sure

Bikini Wax 11-21-2007 01:48 PM

Re: 2pair against fish donking river how to play on river
 
bet more on flop, fold river

Some9 11-21-2007 02:15 PM

Re: 2pair against fish donking river how to play on river
 
snap fold river

Scipio 11-21-2007 02:42 PM

Re: 2pair against fish donking river how to play on river
 
[ QUOTE ]
lol axefl82...wow...wowow. wow.

i think i would fold river, dont know wat else he can haave? like is he c/c 2 streets just to bluff when the flush hits? You're not beating any other 2 pairs.

[/ QUOTE ]

axelf82 = praios???

cbboy 11-21-2007 02:49 PM

Re: 2pair against fish donking river how to play on river
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
lol axefl82...wow...wowow. wow.

i think i would fold river, dont know wat else he can haave? like is he c/c 2 streets just to bluff when the flush hits? You're not beating any other 2 pairs.

[/ QUOTE ]

axelf82 = praios???

[/ QUOTE ]

Yup!

Scipio 11-21-2007 03:02 PM

Re: 2pair against fish donking river how to play on river
 
lol, nice!!!

I thought that praios plays a completly different kind of poker [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Melchiades 11-21-2007 04:39 PM

Re: 2pair against fish donking river how to play on river
 
[ QUOTE ]
lol axefl82...wow...wowow. wow.

i think i would fold river, dont know wat else he can haave? like is he c/c 2 streets just to bluff when the flush hits? You're not beating any other 2 pairs.

[/ QUOTE ]
Did he accidentally out himself in the OP? Or where you at the table? One of the two makes you an [censored].

Or has his SN always been public and I'm just way off base.

FionnMac 11-21-2007 07:18 PM

Re: 2pair against fish donking river how to play on river
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
lol axefl82...wow...wowow. wow.

i think i would fold river, dont know wat else he can haave? like is he c/c 2 streets just to bluff when the flush hits? You're not beating any other 2 pairs.

[/ QUOTE ]

axelf82 = praios???

[/ QUOTE ]

LOL i've know this for a while, was so tempted to out him in one of his threads the other day after his stubborness to convert his own fkin hand then whine at people not responding to his thread.

DanJ. 11-22-2007 01:38 AM

Re: 2pair against fish donking river how to play on river
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
lol axefl82...wow...wowow. wow.

i think i would fold river, dont know wat else he can haave? like is he c/c 2 streets just to bluff when the flush hits? You're not beating any other 2 pairs.

[/ QUOTE ]
Did he accidentally out himself in the OP? Or where you at the table? One of the two makes you an [censored].

Or has his SN always been public and I'm just way off base.

[/ QUOTE ]

Im not retarded. He accidentally outed himself, Duh!.

RockyElsom 11-22-2007 01:45 AM

Re: 2pair against fish donking river how to play on river
 
I have Axel over a 200k sample as a 3ptBB winner. He's probably not good enough to do much better than that, in my opinion.

overAchiever 11-23-2007 04:30 PM

Re: 2pair against fish donking river how to play on river
 
oops, when I said call I didn't notice flush draw hit on river sorry ....


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