*Potawatomi Mid Limit Holdem Thread*
 

So people got sick of me putting up essentially the same thread every weekend about the status of mid limit holdem games at potawatomi. The solution to that is this thread. Instead of starting a new thread every week, I will just bump this one with new information. I'll change the subject line to state what dates I'm reporting on.

Weekend of October 12 games and last week\'s report
 

I will not be at the casino at all this weekend (oct. 12). Lately, they've been spreading 10/20 on fridays and 20/40 on Saturdays. If you are willing to play shorthanded and can find a couple more players, the management will most likely spread one of these games for you. They've been very accomodating in this regard. Having said that, I am somewhat skeptical about these games getting off the ground this weekend (oct. 12). I would give the friday 10/20 game about a 30% chance and the saturday 20/40 about a 10% chance.

Last friday (oct. 7) I wasn't there but I heard that the 10/20 didn't get off the ground. The 20/40 on saturday (oct.8) did however. It started at noon and lasted until 5 pm. Another player and I then started playing HU again at around 7ish and within an hour we had a full table. the game played until around 1 a.m.

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I don't get it. It's as if you assume midwest players who would play in such games DON'T already KNOW about the Potawatomie games, the quality of play and when the games go. THEY DO. I know exactly for whom you are posting --Illinois players.
Illinois players have played at Potawatomie. They know what the action is like. For example, they know the games you are "promoting" are filled with the toughest of the few local players, who can afford to play those levels. Some Illinois players occasionally play at Pot, but it is obivious most prefer Resorts (Indiana) for higher limit action, because of an abundance of players. There are more and higher "limit" and "no limit" action at Resorts and players who have visited Potawatomie know it.



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I will not be at the casino at all this weekend (oct. 12). Lately, they've been spreading 10/20 on fridays and 20/40 on Saturdays. If you are willing to play shorthanded and can find a couple more players, the management will most likely spread one of these games for you. They've been very accomodating in this regard. Having said that, I am somewhat skeptical about these games getting off the ground this weekend (oct. 12). I would give the friday 10/20 game about a 30% chance and the saturday 20/40 about a 10% chance.

Last friday (oct. 7) I wasn't there but I heard that the 10/20 didn't get off the ground. The 20/40 on saturday (oct.8) did however. It started at noon and lasted until 5 pm. Another player and I then started playing HU again at around 7ish and within an hour we had a full table. the game played until around 1 a.m.

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It's as if you assume midwest players who would play in such games DON'T already KNOW about the Potawatomie games, the quality of play and when the games go. THEY DO.

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This isn't true. The games I've been trying to start do not happen on a regular basis and they almost never happen when I am not playing. More people find out about them from talking directly to me in the poker room but people have come up to me and told me that they read it here.

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THEY DO. I know exactly for whom you are posting --Illinois players.


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I'm not targeting any particular geographical region...but who cares if I am?

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Illinois players have played at Potawatomie. They know what the action is like. For example, they know the games you are "promoting" are filled with the toughest of the few local players, who can afford to play those levels.

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Tough players rarely choose to play with other tough players. If they do do this regularly, their "toughness" is questionable. The games I've been trying to rejuvenate are often quite good.

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Some Illinois players occasionally play at Pot, but it is obivious most prefer Resorts (Indiana) for higher limit action, because of an abundance of players. There are more and higher "limit" and "no limit" action at Resorts and players who have visited Potawatomie know it.


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This seems true. If I lived closer to resorts than potawatomi, I'd probably spend more time there as well (I've never been to resorts so i can't say for sure). But again, who cares? Why don't you let me just waste my own time in peace?

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But again, who cares? Why don't you let me just waste my own time in peace?

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Dorf - I tried to warn you.... people DO care because they feel as if your waisting their time (even though I agree your actually not wasting anyones time). Thats why we agreed to have one master thread, its a fair compromise. But he has a very good point... the chances are slim that anyone who plays at Potawatomie doesn't already know what games are spread but it cant hurt to try.

Everyone else - Dorf doesn't work for Potawatomie , this is not a spam thread - it was pre-approved.

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the chances are slim that anyone who plays at Potawatomie doesn't already know what games are spread but it cant hurt to try.

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Okay, listen, this really isn't true. In fact, at this point in time I am probably the person who can most accurately predict what mid limit holdem games above the 6/12 level will be spread this friday and saturday, and I'm not trying to brag. Like I said, these games rarely go if I'm not playing in them and people don't know my schedule.

By the way, my predictions are most accurate on wednesdays and thursdays because I spend a lot of time at the pot on tuesdays and can get a sense of who will show up and who won't on the weekends.

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The point of this thread is (I would assume) that there are people that prefer to play high stakes games at Potawatomi, but don't want to drive up there (or make plans) if they don't think the game is going to go. Until this year, the high stakes limit games had disappeared. They are come back slowly, but irregularly.

I don't see anything worng with a thread letting people who play ther know how likely the game will get together that weekend.

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It's as if you assume midwest players who would play in such games DON'T already KNOW about the Potawatomie games, the quality of play and when the games go. THEY DO.

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This isn't true. The games I've been trying to start do not happen on a regular basis and they almost never happen when I am not playing. More people find out about them from talking directly to me in the poker room but people have come up to me and told me that they read it here.

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THEY DO. I know exactly for whom you are posting --Illinois players.


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I'm not targeting any particular geographical region...but who cares if I am?

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Illinois players have played at Potawatomie. They know what the action is like. For example, they know the games you are "promoting" are filled with the toughest of the few local players, who can afford to play those levels.

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Tough players rarely choose to play with other tough players. If they do do this regularly, their "toughness" is questionable. The games I've been trying to rejuvenate are often quite good.

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Some Illinois players occasionally play at Pot, but it is obivious most prefer Resorts (Indiana) for higher limit action, because of an abundance of players. There are more and higher "limit" and "no limit" action at Resorts and players who have visited Potawatomie know it.


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This seems true. If I lived closer to resorts than potawatomi, I'd probably spend more time there as well (I've never been to resorts so i can't say for sure). But again, who cares? Why don't you let me just waste my own time in peace?

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Because he has some grudge against the Pot. Ive been following his posts for years and that's pretty obvious so hopefully nothing he says influences anyone's opinion of whether this is a worthy thread or not.

It's common sense, if people get a sense that even a few players are going to be there, and they are close by, they are going to play there. Not everyone has time to drive all the way to Resorts if there is another option closer by.

And I doubt any of these people are for the most part "experienced regulars". If they had an abundance of those, they would be running mid-limit more often.

As it is, the way they are doing it is perfect. Even for the person who wants to play every day, if their game is being run at the Pot, they can benefit from the closer drive, and they can still go to Resorts or wherever on the other days.

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the 30/60 game seemed to be running full tonight, oct. 16th (tuesday). I was playing NL, but walked by the table numerous times. I threw out a "sup bro" in case any 2+2er's were playing, but didn't get a response. oh well...

benny

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the 30/60 game seemed to be running full tonight, oct. 16th (tuesday). I was playing NL, but walked by the table numerous times. I threw out a "sup bro" in case any 2+2er's were playing, but didn't get a response. oh well...

benny

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What time were you there? I saw that they were running that game, but it looked like it broke around 7 or 8 pm. (not sure when it started)

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I got there at 7 and they were playing for atleast 4 hours after that... table 13 I think. Unless they changed the game on that table, but I doubt it since I noticed the huge stacks of green and red all night...

benny

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what were you playing Nuevo99?

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what were you playing Nuevo99?

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I was playing 3/6 on table 2.

I know the 4/8 game broke around 7. There was a guy walking from some table with two racks of greens and they were talking about how some table broke and they mentioned 30/60.

Perhaps they were confused, or that was some other game. (was there a pot limit game yesterday)

Re: Weekend of oct. 19 10/20-20/40 games
 

There is a fair amount of interest for the friday (oct. 19) 10/20 game. I will be there at noon and will be willing to play shorthanded or otherwise until about 10 p.m. I would estimate the chances of this game getting off the ground at around 70%. As for the 20/40 game on Saturday, management started an early signup list for this game on tuesday and when I left the room, there were about 7 names on it but some of those people were not 100% sure they would play. Nevertheless, I still think there is a good chance (about 60%) we will get it going.

Last week, if the word on the street was correct, neither the 10/20 nor the 20/40 got off the ground. It's all just rumor, but I did here that there was a list for last saturday's (oct. 13) game of around 6 but they didn't get it going. Again, if you are willing to play short handed, the management will generally start your game for you with a little prodding. They are busy on the weekends but if you let them know you are there and willing to get a new table running they have been pretty accomodating.

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the 30/60 game seemed to be running full tonight, oct. 16th (tuesday). I was playing NL, but walked by the table numerous times. I threw out a "sup bro" in case any 2+2er's were playing, but didn't get a response. oh well...

benny

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I didn't know "sup bro" was 2p2 code or I would have said hi. I was in the game from noon til 2 a.m.

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I didn't know "sup bro" was 2p2 code or I would have said hi. I was in the game from noon til 2 a.m.

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"Sup bro" comes from a couple old threads from a couple years back. If you can find a link they are pretty amusing (sorry I do not know the link). People started saying "sup bro" at the tables after the thread got popular to see if others were fellow posters.

Anyway, I was the guy in a blue Irish Hurling/Gaelic Football jersey with a yellow Greenbay Packer visor.

I love the NL games down there at the Pot. I just wish I could afford to play more often instead of just taking a shot every now and then. I expect to play a little more (once a week about) these next couple months.

I will be there after nov. 12th a little more often since
THEY WILL BE SERVING ALCOHOL in the poker room! [censored] yeah!

benny

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I had the honor of sitting next to thedorf in $3/$6 omaha hi-lo today while he waited for the $20/$40 game to start. At 5pm the $20/$40 started and thedorf and his friend left for that game which basically caused the o/8 game to stop.



They need to get $1/$2 No-Limit going down there.

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I'm a new Illinois player (just south of the state line by the Lake). No live experience to speak of, but I'd like to try it.

So what limits do the spread, and what buy-in tournaments do they have?

Re: oct. 19-20 report
 

friday, oct. 19 the 10/20 game started at around 2ish or so. I can't remember. anyway, we played until around 7:30. on saturday, after I took six racks off the omaha game (god am i good) we started up the 20/40 at 5 p.m. and it went until around 3 a.m. My guess is that next week the saturday game will start earlier, probably closer to noon. I say this because I know another guy who now knows about the game and also some players were at canterbury but are now back. I'll know better on wednesday and give my predictions.

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They need to get $1/$2 No-Limit going down there.

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I can almost guarantee that this won't happen... I've asked the floor numerous times if they would ever spread it, and all I've gotten is "it will never happen."

They get too much action on the 3/5NL, and they probably don't want to take away from the lower limits that they spread. I would assume having a 1/2NL would drastically lower the 2/4 and 3/6 attendance. I'm no expert on the matter, but I think it would adversely effect profits for the casino. I have no physical evidence or prior knowledge for that assumption however...

benny

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I'm a new Illinois player (just south of the state line by the Lake). No live experience to speak of, but I'd like to try it.

So what limits do the spread, and what buy-in tournaments do they have?

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They do not have tournaments as far as I know. Not regularly anyway. They usually have 2-3 tables of 3/5NL going with an assortment of 2/4 and 3/6 limit as well. I think there is normally a 5/10 game, but it doesn't run 24/7( ??)

For any of the bigger games they spread (10/20, 15/30, 20/40) they will have them on certain days. the 15/30 usually runs Tuesdays I believe, with a 20/40 sometimes on Saturdays... Maybe the poster thedorf can fill you in on those, he seems to be the resident expert on the higher limit games at The Pot...

they run a 5/10 hi/lo omaha game on wednesday I believe.

They also have 1-5 seven card stud usually running 24/7 (??) they used to anyway..

I heard about a round by round pot limit omaha hi / pot limit hold 'em game. I think it might be a friday night deal.. anyone know the details on that?

benny

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I'm a new Illinois player (just south of the state line by the Lake). No live experience to speak of, but I'd like to try it.

So what limits do the spread, and what buy-in tournaments do they have?

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NL HE
$3/$5 - can't remember buy-in I think $300-$600.

Limit HE
$2/$4
$3/$6
$4/$8
$6/$12
$10/$20 sometimes
$20/$40 sometimes

All the games 6/12 and below are pretty much filled with clueless retards. A decent understanding of SSHE will allow you to do well in those games. Play $2/$4 on a weekend night if you want some 8 players to a flop action.

Limit o/8
$5/$10 with kill on Wed/Thu
$3/$6 with no kill on Sat
Neither of these games are tough by any means, the hands per hour are just so low that if your good hands don't hold up it can take a long time to reverse a downswing.


PLO
Round by round (HE Omaha) when requested. Dealer said $5/$5 blinds and $500-no max buy-in.

Stud
$1-$5 I think?

Tournaments
They had one when they first opened and one in August. The one in August was "invite only" for players who had accumulated the most hours in the room. $200 buy-in, 150 players, $40K payout so $10K was added. Last months "ANTE" magazine said stayed tuned to their website (paysbig.com) for more tournament listings.

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Thanks to both for the info.

Like I said, I'm new, so I'm not sure I wouldn't act like a clueless retard just often enough to make the session a losing one. Plus money's a little tight, so unless I get better fast and get staked I probably won't make it up there til next year at the soonest. (Those low-level NLHE tables sound temping, though.)

With that said, a couple more questions (if you feel like answering).

When I do go there, what's the best time to arrive on Saturday?

According to their site the poker room is by the bingo hall, which has a snack bar with hot dogs etc. Is that worthwhile or should I hit the buffet instead?

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Thanks to both for the info.

Like I said, I'm new, so I'm not sure I wouldn't act like a clueless retard just often enough to make the session a losing one. Plus money's a little tight, so unless I get better fast and get staked I probably won't make it up there til next year at the soonest. (Those low-level NLHE tables sound temping, though.)

With that said, a couple more questions (if you feel like answering).

When I do go there, what's the best time to arrive on Saturday?

According to their site the poker room is by the bingo hall, which has a snack bar with hot dogs etc. Is that worthwhile or should I hit the buffet instead?

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If I were you I would buy-in for the max at the NLHE table. The game plays pretty loose so having a few buy-ins is nice.
So if money is tight, I don't know if that is your game. I can't afford to play that high all the time myself, but I take shots every now and then (when I can afford it).

I don't normally go on Saturdays, I would imagine its busy all day though.

If you go, call 414-847-7605. It's the Poker room's number. You can put your name on the list for up to 2 hours before showing up.

If you're going to eat at the snack bar, go to the one that is a little farther away from the poker room past the bingo caller (the guy who reads the balls). It has a bigger selection of food. Burgers and stuff.

benny

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I have nothing against Potatwatomie Casino. If they choose to hire a bunch of unemployed skinheads and klansmen to run their poker room, it's their joint. The drift of many of my threads would better defined as ANTI-CASINO. I like poker, but I really don't care for legalized gaming corporations, which have struck an "unholy alliance" with politicians nationwide, to ripoff the public. You have to go into a casino to play poker, in most jurisdictions. A person who bets the horses, can go to the track. No legal poker, except in the slot barnes.

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Because he has some grudge against the Pot. Ive been following his posts for years and that's pretty obvious so hopefully nothing he says influences anyone's opinion of whether this is a worthy thread or not.


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I have nothing against Potatwatomie Casino. If they choose to hire a bunch of unemployed skinheads and klansmen to run their poker room, it's their joint.

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????? Please elaborate.

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The firepit sports bar downstairs has good burgers + fries for about $8 and they're open 24/7 for food on weekends. You can get it to go and take it up to the bingo hall to eat if you don't want to sit at the bar. Or if you eat before 4pm you can get the "Buffet To Go" which is $4.99 lb. and probably the best deal in the casino. At $3.75ish for 3/4 lb of butterfly shrimp you can't go wrong.

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The plh+omaha is 5-5 with 500-1000 bi. I was told by the floor there is a cap on it. I saw it running two days in a row for the whole day on a friday and saturday I believe. Maybe sat+sunday.

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The plh+omaha is 5-5 with 500-1000 bi. I was told by the floor there is a cap on it. I saw it running two days in a row for the whole day on a friday and saturday I believe. Maybe sat+sunday.

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damn, I need to check that game out next time I go...

benny

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The firepit sports bar downstairs has good burgers + fries for about $8 and they're open 24/7 for food on weekends. You can get it to go and take it up to the bingo hall to eat if you don't want to sit at the bar. Or if you eat before 4pm you can get the "Buffet To Go" which is $4.99 lb. and probably the best deal in the casino. At $3.75ish for 3/4 lb of butterfly shrimp you can't go wrong.

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But how long can you be gone before they declare your seat open?

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But how long can you be gone before they declare your seat open?

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Most casinos (including Potawatomi) allow to to take a 1-hour break to eat food, if you ask. There are some caveats, like you can't do it until you've had a seat at the table for awhile (like an hour), you probably would have to wait at least another 4 hours before asking for another meal break, and you generally can't get a meal break if there are 2 others at the table on break.

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You go up to the podium and they'll write the time for you to come back on a little sheet of paper. You put that on your racked up chips at the table. They do allow people to play over so if you come back and someone is in your seat don't freak out too much.

Re: Weekend of oct. 26 10/20-20/40 games
 

I feel almost the same about the possibility of the friday 10/20 and saturday 20/40 games this weekend as i did about last weekend's games. The guys who came back from canterbury are iffier than I thought they would be so that's one cause for pessimism. But I still think there is a decent chance. I will be there at noon on both days.

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I'll probably play a little on friday again if you're there to give me some more pointers Bradley.

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The friday (oct 26) 10/20 got off the ground at around 2:30ish and there was a full table when i left at 10 p.m. Saturday (oct 27) the 20/40 was a bit disappointing. It started at around 3 and played only until 7ish. Also, it was 3 handed most of the time. I am very confident that the game will start earlier and play with more people this coming saturday (nov. 3). I'll talk more about that after tuesday.

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Yeah, that was fun. My first time at 10-20 at Pot on Friday and it was a pretty decent table. I left between 11 to midnight and the table was just starting to shrink, don’t know how long it went on. I will be checking this space, please let me know if there is one going on this week Friday too… I will be there.

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I will be checking this space, please let me know if there is one going on this week Friday too… I will be there.

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Will do, rounder. Right now I'm pretty sure we'll get something going again on Friday. I'll be there at noon and then it's just a matter of when the next few people wander in willing to play short handed to get the game off. So far, we've gotten one going every Friday that I'm there.

Re:Weekend of November 2 games
 

I will be in the poker room on Friday, Nov. 2 at noon for the 10/20 game. Last week it got off the ground at around 2 or 3 and I'm expecting something similar this week but I hope it goes off even earlier. Last week this game was really good so I'm hoping for the same tomorrow.

The 20/40 game on Saturday, nov. 3 will start at noon sharp. I've talked with some other players and we have enough to get it going. Things are looking up. See you there.

Dorf

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If the 20/40 game doesn't go off, you're welcome to join me at $3/$6 omaha hi-lo today at noon [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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The games were really good this weekend. On Friday the 10/20 got off the ground at 1 pm and ran for almost 20 hours. The 20/40 on saturday started at noon and played until around 11 or midnight and then got kicked down to a 10/20 game which was still going strong when i left at 4 a.m. There's definitely a lot of momentum for these games right now.