3/6 deep, set on 3 flush board
 

villain at 30/20, splashing around quite a bit

I'm playing tight and abc

Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $3/$6
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $606.00
UTG+1: $675.00
CO: $2326.10
hero: $2114.80
SB: $542.85
BB: $76.55

Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $24</font>, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $168</font>, 3 folds, CO calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($369, 2 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">hero bets $299</font>, CO calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($967, 2 players)
CO checks, hero checks.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($967, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">CO bets $750

Re: 3/6 deep, set on 3 flush board
 

are you thinking about raising or something?

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No, not considering raising.

Re: 3/6 deep, set on 3 flush board
 

its a pretty easy call imo he'd have to be a lot nittier before i'd consider folding. what was your initial thought on the turn obv you checked but did you really think he had a flush here? when he calls the squeeze i'm thinking he's thinking you're squeezing lightand wants to do something about it.

Re: 3/6 deep, set on 3 flush board
 

he might have aa here too if he's capable of that idk

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thought it possible he hit his flush.

Figure I hear from a set on flop, no?

Don't think this player is getting tricky with aa.

Re: 3/6 deep, set on 3 flush board
 

rarely does 30/20 show up AA here...i never fold this, and berate when he shows up a naked flush.

Re: 3/6 deep, set on 3 flush board
 

besides a flush what hand can you put him on?

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any1 going for b/c 700 on turn?

as played, i think this is an easyeasy river call. you have shown a lot of weakness on turn and he thinks he can get you off JJ,TT etc.

Re: 3/6 deep, set on 3 flush board
 

So what hands do you guys put him on AQhh? Can't be AKhh. I don't get his line. It's either bluff or nuts.

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why cant this be a whiffed cr turned by him with tt-77

this is a v easy call i dont ever consider folding here, i dont see folding or shoving as better options

Re: 3/6 deep, set on 3 flush board
 

wtf lol bet turn play for stacks!

Re: 3/6 deep, set on 3 flush board
 

I bet this turn and if he has it and I don't redraw then reload. Once you check how can you really fold? Get the money in on the turn with decent equity and move on. There are a lot of hands I wish I would have played differently or gotton away from but non of them involve me flopping top set HU.

Re: 3/6 deep, set on 3 flush board
 

do you realize how good your equity is on the turn?

bet

Re: 3/6 deep, set on 3 flush board
 

better than I realized if I'm behind.

I figured he's got the flush or he's way behind. If he's way behind he's not calling a turn bet. Meh!

Re: 3/6 deep, set on 3 flush board
 

Just because he called the flop doesn't mean he had a flush. Your reraise preflop was ridiculously huge, do you not want action with your kings?(at least ya got it though). I probably still bet the turn just because I dont wanna give him a free river heart. What do you think his range is pre for calling? 30/20 is loose but still fairly smart and for him to flat call a raise pre then flat a 7x reraise, its not like he has 67s. Id assume AQhh, AKhh would be the only two flushes he could have, but could definitely have lower set, a slowplayed big pair, or just TP

Re: 3/6 deep, set on 3 flush board
 

WTF? Call!!! There is no way you can fold that! There aren't a whole lot of flushes that he can have, so I can't imagine folding. AKs would probably reraise you on the flop and AQs would probably fold preflop. I don't see any value in reraising, though.

I also like how you checked the turn. Too deep. WA/WB, and now you can also snap a river bluff!

Re: 3/6 deep, set on 3 flush board
 

River seems like a clear call. WTF at your raise sizing preflop though.

Re: 3/6 deep, set on 3 flush board
 

so what do u put him on?

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so what do u put him on?

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I don't know but it's extremely difficult to put him on naked hearts. I don't think it's unreasonable for 22 or 77 to play relatively slow on the flop given that a raise would look ridiculously scary with 400bb stacks, and you could probably get away from AA or AK against a flop c/r. He could also have AA or AK himself, although I'll admit they're less likely.

Re: 3/6 deep, set on 3 flush board
 

I think with your hand it is more of a "what you not put him on" question. You beat any of AA, AK and smaller trips.

Re: 3/6 deep, set on 3 flush board
 

wait, i want to hear an explanation for the preflop 3bet size

also he could have just about any of the sets, alot of flushes a weird multi street bluff, or he could be value betting worse

imo his line is rather consistent with a flush and i wouldnt berate you for folding, but i dont like it and i would call

but then again, i think i bet the turn

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wtf lol bet turn play for stacks!

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Preflop was a bit much but u asked for a justification. Neither villain likes to fold preflop. At the time I thought I might induce a push from first villain if he had any premium hand. I figured second villain had a small pp or a junk hand. Given that we both were so deep I figured I'd bump it up. And so I did.

I think the turn check correct 'cause I don't think there is any way he is calling worse if I fire again. But I don't mind hearing why this thinking is wrong.

Re: 3/6 deep, set on 3 flush board
 

He coldcalled 2x. Shove River. Bet turn.

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so what do u put him on?

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it doesnt matter. you have the nuts. he cant have AKhh, because you hold the Kh. your huge raise preflop left pretty much only PPs and AK in his range. so, he either has a set or TPTK, you beat both.

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so what do u put him on?

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it doesnt matter. you have the nuts. he cant have AKhh, because you hold the Kh. your huge raise preflop left pretty much only PPs and AK in his range. so, he either has a set or TPTK, you beat both.

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this is false, 30/20...but i agree its mostly true but he deff can have a flush here

Re: 3/6 deep, set on 3 flush board
 

Let's say set, flush, or way behind.

I rule out a set given the flop and turn.

Re: 3/6 deep, set on 3 flush board
 

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he cant have AKhh, because you hold the Kh.

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LOL! I can't belive you were the first one to notice. There were so many posts talking about AhKh. Playing for stacks doesn't seem so bad now. Bet turn, shove river is ok too, I guess. However, I've seen quite a few call with suited connectors here, with the intention to play for stacks every time they hit something since your preflop raise pretty much screams AA/KK.

Re: 3/6 deep, set on 3 flush board
 

Just so you realize if he open shoves the turn and flips over QJhh calling is neutral ev. Bet/call turn as played I call river.

Re: 3/6 deep, set on 3 flush board
 

Thanks. I'd've been much happier had he bet or open shoved turn.

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Bet $500/call turn all day. As played, snap call the river, and feel really dumb when he has a lower set.

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Man, oh man, I would love to feel really dumb!

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wtf lol bet turn play for stacks!

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Re: 3/6 deep, set on 3 flush board
 

doesn't the fact that he called such a large pf bet make it less likely he has SCs ? No way can he profitably call that. Man u should def play 4 stax here.