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xGREGORx 10-14-2007 04:26 PM

flopped wheel, turned set but flush possible
 
FullTiltPoker Game #3853807771: Table Draco (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 15:13:40 ET - 2007/10/14
Seat 1: ($14.15)
Seat 2: ($26.95)
Seat 3: ($11.15)
HERO ($4.70)
Seat 5: ($10.40)
VILLIAN ($9.05)
VILLIAN posts the small blind of $0.05
Seat 1 posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #5

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
Seat 2 calls $0.10, Seat 3 folds, HERO calls $0.10, Seat 5 87 calls $0.10, VILLIAN calls $0.05, Seat 1 checks

*** FLOP *** [4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
VILLIAN checks, Seat 1 checks, Seat 2 checks, HERO bets $0.50, Seat 5 87 folds, VILLIAN calls $0.50, 2 folds

*** TURN *** [5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
VILLIAN has 15 seconds left to act… VILLIAN bets $1, HERO calls $1

*** RIVER *** [T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
VILLIAN has 15 seconds left to act… VILLIAN bets $1.75, HERO has 15 seconds left to act, HERO folds

Comments on all streets please… thanks!

Praetor 10-14-2007 04:26 PM

Re: flopped wheel, turned set but flush possible
 
looks good

vitti 10-17-2007 04:15 PM

Re: flopped wheel, turned set but flush possible
 
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looks good

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#2

although you could c/c the flop also

thisnamedoesntfi 10-17-2007 04:50 PM

Re: flopped wheel, turned set but flush possible
 
All in on the turn.

Ribbo 10-17-2007 06:18 PM

Re: flopped wheel, turned set but flush possible
 
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looks good

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#2

although you could c/c the flop also

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Which would be horrible. You have to bet the flop.

Poker monkey 10-18-2007 12:05 AM

Re: flopped wheel, turned set but flush possible
 
Wouldn't it be a better idea to just fold the turn?

chucky 10-18-2007 02:58 AM

Re: flopped wheel, turned set but flush possible
 
why fold the turn to a 1 dollar bet? Hero's set is disguised.

Hopscotch 10-18-2007 03:21 AM

Re: flopped wheel, turned set but flush possible
 
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All in on the turn.

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what?

thisnamedoesntfi 10-18-2007 03:41 AM

Re: flopped wheel, turned set but flush possible
 
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All in on the turn.

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what?

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All in on the turn.

chucky 10-18-2007 03:43 AM

Re: flopped wheel, turned set but flush possible
 
Why allin on turn?

Poker monkey 10-18-2007 03:58 AM

Re: flopped wheel, turned set but flush possible
 
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why fold the turn to a 1 dollar bet? Hero's set is disguised.

[/ QUOTE ] It doesn't matter that it's just a dollar - it's 2/3 pot and you don't have pot odds to call (need 29% equity and have around 24%). May be slightly +EV if you expect him to put a bunch of money in on the river if you boat up.

I don't know - is it standard to call a large bet on the turn with a set if you know you're behind a flush or straight?

Elrazor 10-18-2007 04:15 AM

Re: flopped wheel, turned set but flush possible
 
Hero needs to win a minimum of .90c on the river to make it +ev, so i would call the turn

Elrazor 10-18-2007 04:20 AM

Re: flopped wheel, turned set but flush possible
 
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All in on the turn.

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this seems awful - i doubt we have any fold equity against any flush, let alone the NF, especially at these levels.

if he dosent have the flush we are pretty much always ahead, so shoving only folds out hands we want to keep in

chucky 10-18-2007 04:21 AM

Re: flopped wheel, turned set but flush possible
 
OOP, I think you can fold. Given that hero's flop and turn actions do not dictate set, and hero is in position, there is room for a call at this level where people will pay you off.

GoldenIP 10-18-2007 04:30 AM

Re: flopped wheel, turned set but flush possible
 
PF - Reload to max before hand

PF - Fold

As played....

Flop - Good

Turn - Good (For those saying push turn, that's major spew).

River - Good

P.S. He's not opening the river with anything that you beat in all likelihood. He's obv. happy to be raised otherwise he'd c/c river cheaply. Good fold.

thisnamedoesntfi 10-18-2007 04:52 AM

Re: flopped wheel, turned set but flush possible
 
Calling the turn is spew imo.

Elrazor 10-18-2007 05:33 AM

Re: flopped wheel, turned set but flush possible
 
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Calling the turn is spew imo.

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can you explain why raising turn is a better line?

OrrLives 10-21-2007 03:46 AM

Re: flopped wheel, turned set but flush possible
 
well played.


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