*** Official WCOOP 2008 Suggestions***
 

Here you go guys. This is going to be the only thread allowed on OT WCOOP stuff. I'm tired of deleting/locking 8 threads a day on this stuff.

Talk about structure, events, length what you want next year and what you don't want.

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In my opinion Stars did a hell of a job this year and if it's exactly the same next year I won't complain.

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add another series between now and next september

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k, my suggestions

structure is great for the nl/pl tourneys, though the rebuy structure is a little bit too much imo. id suggest removing the first 2 blind levels for rebuys and have them start at 25/50 with the same stack sizes.

limit tourneys need some work imo. have the starting limits higher in relation to starting stacks and add more levels throughout the tourney. as it is, first hour is basically meaningless unless you run super hot or super cold, and then late in the tourney everyone has like 5-10 big bets.

make the larger events 2 days... mainly the sunday NLHE tourneys.

add turbo sats to the 2nd chance events.

more 6 max events, change at least one of the LHE/PLO events to 6 max. 6 max nlhe rebuy would also be nice.

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more 6-max
more NL
more rebuy
stop putting all the awesome events on austin city limits weekend

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add another series between now and next september

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I think this is a good idea. WCOOP should be 2 weeks and by-annually.

Also, as per my rant, fix or get rid of WCOOP radio.

EDIT: Otherwise a fantastic event, well promoted, with awesome structures.

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two
day
events

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add even more micro buyin satellites. i'm thinking a "ONE SEAT GUARANTEED!!!" $1r to the main event, baby.

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In my opinion Stars did a hell of a job this year and if it's exactly the same next year I won't complain.

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add even more micro buyin satellites. i'm thinking a "ONE SEAT GUARANTEED!!!" $1r to the main event, baby.

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actually a micro bracelet event wouldn't be bad. Give it the same structure that a regular sunday mil has, maybe even quicker, and have like a 25$ 300k bracelet event so that low stakes players can get a taste of WCOOP.

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add even more micro buyin satellites. i'm thinking a "ONE SEAT GUARANTEED!!!" $1r to the main event, baby.

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actually a micro bracelet event wouldn't be bad. Give it the same structure that a regular sunday mil has, maybe even quicker, and have like a 25$ 300k bracelet event so that low stakes players can get a taste of WCOOP.

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Actually, this has been discussed. It was decided not to go with it during WCOOP itself, but I won't be surprised to see something like it down the road.

All the best,

Bryan S.
Tournaments Administrator
PokerStars Poker Room Management Team

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k, my suggestions

structure is great for the nl/pl tourneys, though the rebuy structure is a little bit too much imo. id suggest removing the first 2 blind levels for rebuys and have them start at 25/50 with the same stack sizes.

limit tourneys need some work imo. have the starting limits higher in relation to starting stacks and add more levels throughout the tourney. as it is, first hour is basically meaningless unless you run super hot or super cold, and then late in the tourney everyone has like 5-10 big bets.

make the larger events 2 days... mainly the sunday NLHE tourneys.

add turbo sats to the 2nd chance events.

more 6 max events, change at least one of the LHE/PLO events to 6 max. 6 max nlhe rebuy would also be nice.

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Maybe give some guarantees that aren't, you know, 1/2 to 1/3 of what the total prizepool ends up being?

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Maybe give some guarantees that aren't, you know, 1/2 to 1/3 of what the total prizepool ends up being?

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I believe this is something Stars should look at all over the site not just the WCOOP (obviously not suggesting theyre all out of wack, some are just way off tho)

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1. More 6max NLHE.
2. Less of the crappy games. 5 card draw, stud games, O8
3. Start the tournaments 2 hours later. This might mess up the euros but having the tournaments during the work day screws the US players.
4. Same structure, but make most of the tournaments 2 days long.

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Pick a casino in Vegas and play it live.

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Pick a casino in Vegas and play it live.

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lol logistics

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Pick a casino in Vegas and play it live.

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This doesn't make any sense... it's the World Championship of Online Poker, you can't play it live...

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Pick a casino in Vegas and play it live.

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This doesn't make any sense... it's the World Championship of Online Poker, you can't play it live...

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live poker is rigged anyways.

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sunday nlhe events must be 2 days. 24+ hour events are not good.

how many of the fnal table particiapnts of these 24+ events are the same players who started the tournament?

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how many of the fnal table particiapnts of these 24+ events are the same players who started the tournament?

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I think there will be more players who are different if it's two days.

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make the HU event a $1k plz

2 day events for the ridiculously long events

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2 day events.

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how many of the fnal table particiapnts of these 24+ events are the same players who started the tournament?

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I think there will be more players who are different if it's two days.

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i disagree. i think it's more of an exhaustion issue, than a "trying to lock up $$$" issue

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2. Less of the crappy games. 5 card draw, stud games, O8
3. Start the tournaments 2 hours later. This might mess up the euros but having the tournaments during the work day screws the US players.

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2. Umm... no. While 27TD is the most tilt-inducing thing I've ever played, there's only a 215 5CD, 215 27TD, and a 215 Razz, both of which had other events that day. There's also only one 7Stud, 7SHL, and OHL in limit and PL forms. All those games combined is 7 events. There are 8 NLHE events (3 Sunday multimillions, two 6-max, one rebuy, one HU, one shootout).
3. Hell yes.

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i think tom mcevoy said on wcoop radio that it's kind of ridiculous that players have to play so exhausted given the large prize jumps that take place on the last two tables

i think for any of the huge field events, it'd make sense to just pause when it broke to the last two tables, break for like 12 hours or something, then continue playing

i don't see a downside

edit: also agree about starting them later so as not to screw US players. when the largest % of your entrants are US players, you gotta make some exceptions

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2 day events would increase the excitement and prestige infinitely.

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6 MAX limit event.

More starting chips in the limit event. We weren't deep enough.

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Seems like the better players should want 1 day events for a couple of reasons.

1) The fish can't rest and will probably play worse than you will being really tired.

2) The fish won't have time to find someone else to play/buy their seat.

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limit heads up matches please, with 30 minute blinds levels

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for just a second there you all got leveled hard

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3 day events

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6 MAX limit event

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I agree. I would have played that fo sho

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Free bounty t-shirts when you eliminate pokerstars pros.

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3 day events

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[img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] why not

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Why not a poorman's wcoop style series?

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Honestly I'd prefer a worse structure just so it doesn't take so long

Bigger HU event

PLO REBUY 6M, it shoulda been the best event as it was it was kinda lame.

Not a big fan of the pay structure with 100 only getting like 3x what 500 gets.

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HORSE Events need to be fixed in first few levels, there is no reason to play a the first level with 150bb and the 2nd level with 100bb, use this hour of wasted time to make play deeper later on

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more 6 max, and 2 days for the larger events

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add a 1k hu!!!