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Biggest fish in high stakes games?
we all know guys like guy laliberte or the tourney winners like jamie gold who come and dump off a couple hundred grand, but who are the biggest cash game losers that are regulars, not everyone can win, I know money comes up, all the way from the 1/2 players who take shots at 5/10 and lose to the guys who take shots at 10/20 who lose, etc, etc, but who are some of the high stakes losers? farha seems to lose a ton, i'd imagine daniel alaei or sheikhan, some of the foreign guys are from rich families and dump off a lot, who are some of the big losers you know of? cuz they arent all making dough
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Online poker is a huge pyramid scam. Everyone is winning (until the whole thing collapses on itself).
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just don't play on a site that has a predicatble rng, aka rigged...that's for you to figure out
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LOL @ Saying Alei is a bad player, he is probably one of the top 20 best cash NLHE players in the world
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Just look on the high stakes db at the biggest losers over the last 4 months and see which names are always on there. That should give you some clue.
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Bigges losers this year on full tilt
noataima $-3.429.854,75 190 38458 377,32 magicpitch1 $-1.207.884,35 112 22848 191,28 David Benyamine $-1.115.986,40 285 44590 349,13 SheFaLLs $-531.084,45 80 9640 84,89 Gus Hansen $-525.601,55 94 7988 90,77 A_Hoffman $-505.281,70 37 5037 31,72 Ram Vaswani $-485.786,50 42 8144 52,96 Luigi66369 $-470.426,10 119 14366 149,18 Mike Matusow $-425.375,55 175 18236 174,22 EarlyCry $-376.650,70 47 3620 18,96 |
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we all know guys like guy laliberte or the tourney winners like jamie gold who come and dump off a couple hundred grand, but who are the biggest cash game losers that are regulars, not everyone can win, I know money comes up, all the way from the 1/2 players who take shots at 5/10 and lose to the guys who take shots at 10/20 who lose, etc, etc, but who are some of the high stakes losers? farha seems to lose a ton, i'd imagine daniel alaei or sheikhan, some of the foreign guys are from rich families and dump off a lot, who are some of the big losers you know of? cuz they arent all making dough [/ QUOTE ] looked like being a good post till you implied alaei is a losing player |
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Online poker is a huge pyramid scam. Everyone is winning (until the whole thing collapses on itself). [/ QUOTE ] everyone is not a winner and thats what keeps the pyramid standing tall. the biggest winner is still the game provider. |
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Farha "seems" to lose a ton? How does he "seem" to do that? The word on the street is he's had a verryyyyy profitable year.
Alaei - great player... Sheikhan - does he even play in the big game? |
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Noataima has lost approx $8,918 per 100 hands this year, and provided his "average limit" is around BB=$300, he runs at around -15PTBB/100.
Zohhh Myeeee Gawwwd Does he have like a million dollar bankroll or something. Are there any poker players that have million dollar bankrolls? Those web trend forecasting spyders have been predicting teh arrival of a poker player with a million dollar bankroll for some time now. I wouldn't be surprised if he was from texas. |
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Noataima has lost approx $8,918 per 100 hands this year, and provided his "average limit" is around BB=$300, he runs at around -15PTBB/100. Zohhh Myeeee Gawwwd Does he have like a billion dollar bankroll or something. Are there any poker players that have million dollar bankrolls? Those web trend forecasting spyders have been predicting teh arrival of a poker player with a million dollar bankroll for some time now. I wouldn't be surprised if he was from texas. [/ QUOTE ] |
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Noataima has lost approx $8,918 per 100 hands this year, and provided his "average limit" is around BB=$300, he runs at around -15PTBB/100. Zohhh Myeeee Gawwwd Does he have like a million dollar bankroll or something. Are there any poker players that have million dollar bankrolls? Those web trend forecasting spyders have been predicting teh arrival of a poker player with a million dollar bankroll for some time now. I wouldn't be surprised if he was from texas. [/ QUOTE ] When Noataima sits down at table on Full Tilt, he is worth way more than the rest of the players combined. |
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When Noataima sits down at table on Full Tilt, he is worth way more than the rest of the players combined. [/ QUOTE ] From what I've heard, Full Tilt tables can have that Jupiterian effect on your net worth. It would be interesting to find out what he's worth when he's not sitting down at a table on Full Tilt. |
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noataima ftw
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SKYWALKER!!!!
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i probably wouldnt call daniel alaei a fish.
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Bigges losers this year on full tilt noataima $-3.429.854,75 190 38458 377,32 magicpitch1 $-1.207.884,35 112 22848 191,28 David Benyamine $-1.115.986,40 285 44590 349,13 SheFaLLs $-531.084,45 80 9640 84,89 Gus Hansen $-525.601,55 94 7988 90,77 A_Hoffman $-505.281,70 37 5037 31,72 Ram Vaswani $-485.786,50 42 8144 52,96 Luigi66369 $-470.426,10 119 14366 149,18 Mike Matusow $-425.375,55 175 18236 174,22 EarlyCry $-376.650,70 47 3620 18,96 [/ QUOTE ] Is this holdem and Omahaha combined? |
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[ QUOTE ] Bigges losers this year on full tilt noataima $-3.429.854,75 190 38458 377,32 magicpitch1 $-1.207.884,35 112 22848 191,28 David Benyamine $-1.115.986,40 285 44590 349,13 SheFaLLs $-531.084,45 80 9640 84,89 Gus Hansen $-525.601,55 94 7988 90,77 A_Hoffman $-505.281,70 37 5037 31,72 Ram Vaswani $-485.786,50 42 8144 52,96 Luigi66369 $-470.426,10 119 14366 149,18 Mike Matusow $-425.375,55 175 18236 174,22 EarlyCry $-376.650,70 47 3620 18,96 [/ QUOTE ] Is this holdem and Omahaha combined? [/ QUOTE ] From 1-1-2007 until now: Pot-Limit Omaha Winners: David Benyamine: $2,271,655,00 Luigi66369: $1.470.436,00 Phil Ivey: $955.747,00 Gus Hansen: $672.321,85 Ziigmund: $670.190,45 Till_I_collapse: $640.007,90 bacina: $617.314,50 KObyTAPOUT: $593.846,00 Ugadabugada: $505.056,75 Losers: durrrr: $-1.082.080,00 noataima: $-858.364,50 Grimstarr: $-488.531,00 CrazyZachary: $-482.852,00 John DAgostino: $-430.062,00 Mr Poker KDH: $-427.080,10 newhizzle: $-313.778,00 ByTheBy: $-305.715,25 Mafews: $-300.833,70 Jigga100: $-298.031,50 No-Limit Hold'em Winners: sbrugby: $3.125.993,40 pr1nnyraid: $1.679.854,65 durrrr: $1.110.025,55 Till_I_collapse: $896.285,50 mjorgenson13: $861.170,25 Phil Ivey: $803.394,15 jinsokkp: $775.572,10 traheho: $740.711,50 Genius28: $716.029,50 93TilInfinity: $692.183,70 Losers: noataima: $-3.429.854,75 David Benyamine: $-2.323.870,40 SheFaLLs: $-531.084,45 Gus Hansen: $-525.601,55 A_Hoffman: $-505.281,70 Ram Vaswani: $-485.786,50 Luigi66369: $-470.426,10 Mike Matusow: $-425.375,55 EarlyCry: $-376.650,70 |
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Alaei.......fish.......no....why would you even think that?
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Alaei.......fish.......no....why would you even think that? [/ QUOTE ] lol, considering he only named three people, and they were all of mid-eastern decent... |
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[ QUOTE ] Alaei.......fish.......no....why would you even think that? [/ QUOTE ] lol, considering he only named three people, and they were all of mid-eastern decent... [/ QUOTE ] So we have a raciest on our hands. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Alaei.......fish.......no....why would you even think that? [/ QUOTE ] lol, considering he only named three people, and they were all of mid-eastern decent... [/ QUOTE ] So we have a raciest on our hands. [/ QUOTE ] or even worse....a racist |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Alaei.......fish.......no....why would you even think that? [/ QUOTE ] lol, considering he only named three people, and they were all of mid-eastern decent... [/ QUOTE ] So we have a raciest on our hands. [/ QUOTE ] or even worse....a racist [/ QUOTE ] Yeah that to |
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no moron, 2 are middle eastern, guy is from canada. and i had heard that alaei was just a trustfund kid who had lost a lot, but thats why im asking. and im not talking about online, cuz there are a million people always taking shots at the high stakes online and losing, but in some of the big vegas games at the bellagio, the 100/200 nl, the big game, 25/50 even, its the same players all the time, im just wondering which of these guys is the sucker, because for most of the year they are just beating up on each other, and unless sam farha has some really profitable businesses outside of poker, dumping off a couple hundred thousand on blackjack, then losing 2 million in the big game really crushes the BR, so what I'm really asking is which of these guys make the big bucks outside of poker? because taking the swings they do, they need to have BIG money (20-30 million), not poker money
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but in some of the big vegas games at the bellagio, the 100/200 nl, the big game, 25/50 even, its the same players all the time, im just wondering which of these guys is the sucker, because for most of the year they are just beating up on each other, and unless sam farha has some really profitable businesses outside of poker, dumping off a couple hundred thousand on blackjack, then losing 2 million in the big game really crushes the BR, so what I'm really asking is which of these guys make the big bucks outside of poker? because taking the swings they do, they need to have BIG money (20-30 million), not poker money [/ QUOTE ] I think A-Rod's played in the big game, of course for him that's peanuts. There's a big buff young guy who plays in those big NL games, maybe he's the fish? not sure though, maybe someone else knows? |
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If that's Madcaddy... I think he once said Doyle was one of the fish.
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It's not really high high stakes, but right now on FTP, there's a 17 person waiting list on board for the $10/$20 HU Game with Fluffdog. I saw a 10 person waiting list for him yesterday. He must be a massive fish. Anyone got teh scoops?
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Does he have like a million dollar bankroll or something. Are there any poker players that have million dollar bankrolls? Those web trend forecasting spyders have been predicting teh arrival of a poker player with a million dollar bankroll for some time now. I wouldn't be surprised if he was from texas. [/ QUOTE ] ok this "joke" was never ever ever ever funny and it's been around for a very long time. Just like the endboss in final fantasy ten, it never seems to die and every new incarnation is worse than the last. |
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[ QUOTE ] Does he have like a million dollar bankroll or something. Are there any poker players that have million dollar bankrolls? Those web trend forecasting spyders have been predicting teh arrival of a poker player with a million dollar bankroll for some time now. I wouldn't be surprised if he was from texas. [/ QUOTE ] ok this "joke" was never ever ever ever funny and it's been around for a very long time. Just like the endboss in final fantasy ten, it never seems to die and every new incarnation is worse than the last. [/ QUOTE ] Sir, there is a tremendous flaw in your logic. If each new incarnation is worse than the last, than isn't the new incarnation the "last", and the last the "second-to-last"? |
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no moron, 2 are middle eastern, guy is from canada. and i had heard that alaei was just a trustfund kid who had lost a lot, but thats why im asking. and im not talking about online, cuz there are a million people always taking shots at the high stakes online and losing, but in some of the big vegas games at the bellagio, the 100/200 nl, the big game, 25/50 even, its the same players all the time, im just wondering which of these guys is the sucker, because for most of the year they are just beating up on each other, and unless sam farha has some really profitable businesses outside of poker, dumping off a couple hundred thousand on blackjack, then losing 2 million in the big game really crushes the BR, so what I'm really asking is which of these guys make the big bucks outside of poker? because taking the swings they do, they need to have BIG money (20-30 million), not poker money [/ QUOTE ] Now we have a racist, a name caller and someone who doesn't like Canadians. 3 posts this guys got and he is already stirring up trouble. Bad start guy, bad start. |
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FFS, I know Guy Laliberte is a billionaire, but donking off over four million in 6 months is still so sick. You think the guy would've either improved or found a new hobby by now. And someone reeeeeaally needs to tell Degenyamine to stick to Omahaha.
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Lol.. Looking at the wikipedia on Guy Laliberte.. How's he supposed to feel about what they said bout him in the poker section..
[ QUOTE ] Playing under the screen name "noitaima" on Full Tilt Poker, Laliberté has lost $3,429,854.75 in no limit hold 'em games in 2007 (through July 13, 2007) making him probably the biggest high stakes fish in the poker universe. [/ QUOTE ] Wonder if he knows that [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].. |
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some ppl are all results oriented. for example, traheho is a winner right now in the big games on ftp. but from what i've seen of his stats, there is no way hes gonna be a winner in the long run. he is still a tourney donk after all
i think david grey is a loser in the big game. dunno about anyone else |
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some ppl are all results oriented. for example, traheho is a winner right now in the big games on ftp. but from what i've seen of his stats, there is no way hes gonna be a winner in the long run. he is still a tourney donk after all i think david grey is a loser in the big game. dunno about anyone else [/ QUOTE ] i read sumwhere david grey was a steady winner in the big game. cant rememver where |
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we all know guys like guy laliberte or the tourney winners like jamie gold who come and dump off a couple hundred grand, but who are the biggest cash game losers that are regulars, not everyone can win, I know money comes up, all the way from the 1/2 players who take shots at 5/10 and lose to the guys who take shots at 10/20 who lose, etc, etc, but who are some of the high stakes losers? farha seems to lose a ton, i'd imagine daniel alaei or sheikhan, some of the foreign guys are from rich families and dump off a lot, who are some of the big losers you know of? cuz they arent all making dough [/ QUOTE ] You started off with a promising title. The post itself is laughable, you throw Alaei in there, just because of his ethnicity. Whenever he's mentioned, it's generally very laudative, by people with good credibility. Have you ever even watched 'High Stakes Poker', since it seems to be a topic that interests you enough to register for it? Nothing like flat brain racist hicks (a fair assumption without having met you, based on how narrow a perspective you exhibit) who expose their foggy knowledge with conviction and illiteracy. Let me guess, you pronounce Guy's surname 'Leah-lee-burt', right? |
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durrrr: $1.110.025,55
durrrr: $-1.082.080,00 stick to NL? |
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Lol.. Looking at the wikipedia on Guy Laliberte.. How's he supposed to feel about what they said bout him in the poker section.. [ QUOTE ] Playing under the screen name "noitaima" on Full Tilt Poker, Laliberté has lost $3,429,854.75 in no limit hold 'em games in 2007 (through July 13, 2007) making him probably the biggest high stakes fish in the poker universe. [/ QUOTE ] Wonder if he knows that [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].. [/ QUOTE ] He's worth 1.5 billion. While his assets aren't liquid, a 2% yearly return on his assets is $30 million. He's lost $4.5 million in 6 months so it's not like he's going backwards. |
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I think this thread should take a little twist, there were a lot of major fish around long before the modern day big game that helped build the rolls of the highest stakes players we see on TV today.
I nominate George the Greek. This man may have single handedly put the big game at Mirage on the map back in the day. |
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