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blendedsuit 11-28-2007 02:28 AM

flop set on pretty board, get stacked
 
Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

MP2: $19
CO: $286
BTN: $148.15
SB: $79.80
Hero (BB): $60
UTG: $46
UTG+1: $238.15
MP1: $64.50

Pre-Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
4 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $4</font>, BTN calls $4, SB folds, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($12.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $6</font>, Hero calls $6, CO folds

Turn: ($24.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($24.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $138.15 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $44 and is All-In

Results: $124.50 Pot ($3 Rake)
BTN showed J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a straight, Ten to Ace) and WON $121.50 (+$61.50 NET)
Hero mucked 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and LOST (-$60 NET)

wtf did i do wrong, 1st hand at table. was gonna cr turn

kenadams 11-28-2007 02:30 AM

Re: flop set on pretty board, get stacked
 
866 posts and you are posting results ?
866 posts and you are slowplaying your set?

blendedsuit 11-28-2007 02:31 AM

Re: flop set on pretty board, get stacked
 
seriously, what do i have to watch out for there? i quit poker for a year, now i'm gonna quit forever, it blows, i dont miss it

Dire 11-28-2007 02:37 AM

Re: flop set on pretty board, get stacked
 
...would probably get more useful responses in microstakes unless you're trolling on purpose.

blendedsuit 11-28-2007 02:40 AM

Re: flop set on pretty board, get stacked
 
no troll here. micro is the place to be? seriously, just bet out on flop an d turn?

STARSCREAM. 11-28-2007 02:43 AM

Re: flop set on pretty board, get stacked
 
Wtf at short stacked?

I usually just check-raise this flop and continue betting from there. If checked back to you, i'll lead out a lot of turns, or go for a CR if a scare card hits.

thac 11-28-2007 02:44 AM

Re: flop set on pretty board, get stacked
 
wtf at everything here

blendedsuit 11-28-2007 02:47 AM

Re: flop set on pretty board, get stacked
 
So i messed up? help me out plzzz, fold river as played?

blendedsuit 11-28-2007 02:48 AM

Re: flop set on pretty board, get stacked
 
[ QUOTE ]
Wtf at short stacked?


[/ QUOTE ]

it was auto buyin by mistake, i didnt notice i missed out on max buyin. guess i saved myself 40 at least

orange 11-28-2007 02:51 AM

Re: flop set on pretty board, get stacked
 
dude...are you serious?

i dont mind flop from time to time given your stack. turn is a missed c/r fine- donking the turn is also an option.

river, whatever. given stacks, the way you got there, do not fold.

terp 11-28-2007 02:52 AM

Re: flop set on pretty board, get stacked
 
reload preflop

edit: actually nevermind, you might not be ready for 60+bb poker yet [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Proofrock 11-28-2007 02:53 AM

Re: flop set on pretty board, get stacked
 
I can understand c/c-ing the flop because it's such a dry board. However, you flopped a set and you want to get your stack in. You'll typically have better results if you

(1) don't slowplay unless you have a good reason to and a plan for extracting as much value as possible. In this hand, you don't really seem to have a great plan for getting your stack in, as evidenced by your $6 river bet.

(2) Make bets that allow you to naturally get your stack in. In this hand, I think either of the following lines would have been better:

a. bet 2/3 pot on flop, 2/3 pot on the river, and shoved roughly 1/2 pot on the river.

b. c/c flop, lead turn, shove river.

With your stack size, you don't really need any help to get your stack in, so there's no need to get tricky with the check/raising. If he has any kind of a hand you'll be able to get it in just by betting.

ChoicestHops 11-28-2007 03:06 AM

Re: flop set on pretty board, get stacked
 
I haven't read any replies yet, but I think they can't be good. You completely wasted this hand by slowplaying. You have two options here, and one is to lead out on a very dry flop with your set, and the other is to check and lead the turn. But, you can't check the turn because a check on the flop and then a check raise on the turn is a very unusual line. I think just betting out on the flop is good.. if he has AJ like he does in this hand he folds and you don't make much.. but when you put villain on an equity of hands he can hold which is big pairs, for one, you stack him here when he has a big pair vs your set. Don't slowplay here. imo the best option is to lead.


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