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Daliman 10-20-2007 11:16 PM

Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
YTD:
Teased games: 15-2(88.24%)
2 team teases: 16-6 (72.73%)
+6230


Looks like we finally have more than 2 or 3 teams this week for only 2nd time all year. My guy isn't around yet, but unless the lines change, these will be my bets.

Wash -8/-2
NO -8/-2
TB +2.5/+8.5
KC +2.5/+8.5
SEA -8.5/-2.5

Also, as 6.5 -110 teases, I have:
Dall -9/-2.5
NYG -9/-2.5
Hou +1/+7.5

Each bet to win 720

I am planning on only RRing each subset within itself, which would be 10 and 3 teasers, but I'm looking into how much value I lose from the extra 10c on the 5 games where it's not needed. If I tease them all, it will be 28 teases!(my new record!)

brendanb438 10-20-2007 11:59 PM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
Here you go Michael, if you are gonna follow someone's picks blindly, these have been proven to be +EV. Not as sexy as RickJ I am sure, but Daliman isn't a tout using these boards to sell picks. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Heres to another monster week Dali!

Just don't bet these on sportsbook.com or any family sites. You might regret it soon.

-Brendan

Jazzy3113 10-21-2007 12:10 AM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
sounds good, but im gonna lay off KC and Houston cause my math model suggests it.

CrushinFelt 10-21-2007 12:16 AM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
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sounds good, but im gonna lay off KC and Houston cause they're going to win outright

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kc of course

Schwatt 10-21-2007 12:29 AM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
Keep an eye on Buffalo as well, the juice suggests that line may move to +2.5.

calmB4storm 10-21-2007 01:12 AM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
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Bet Buffalo as well, the juice suggests that line may move to +2.5.

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Thalum 10-21-2007 01:33 AM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
Sorry to sound like an ignorant sheep, but I'm having some trouble understanding how to place these bets (yes I have read the Wong teaser faq).

I understand the concept (I think), however when I go to Pinnacle to place the actual bets, I'm faced with 2 choices:

NFL/College 2-6 Team
NFL Same game

I was under the assumtion that I can tease a single team (Ie. moving washington from -8 to -2) but with "NFL Same Game" I need to select not only Washington -2 but Arizona +16..therefore I need to win both bets to win the teaser? Is this the way it is supposed to work?

When I select the "NFL/College 2-6 Team" it allows me to pick only the Washington -2 and start pairing it with other teasers (I assume to RR them) so this part seems to work fine.

Hopefully there is a quick and easy answer out there for me and I am just missing something small [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Thanks!

gila 10-21-2007 01:55 AM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
Put was/NO together, then was/tb, then was/kc, then was/sea, then NO/TB, then NO/KC, .....all the way to sea/kc. Then you can start with the three team teasers, wrap them all together again, from all angles. For example Was/NO/TB, Was/NO/KC WAS/NO/SEA....NO/TB/KC, NO/TB/SEA, et, al. I don't know about teasing just one team. People do that, but not sure what the ev on that is. I just stick to two team, and three team teasers. Of course, you can then go with 4 teamers and such.

Thalum 10-21-2007 02:55 AM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
Ok that makes sense. For some reason I though the norm was to bet these piecemeal, but I see that they are all RR's.

Thanks!

Paul B. 10-21-2007 07:46 AM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
Oh man, why is 5dimes showing Wash -8/-3.5, TB +2.5/+7.5, etc?

prodonkey 10-21-2007 08:16 AM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
so you want to do a round robin teaser?

thing85 10-21-2007 08:20 AM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
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Oh man, why is 5dimes showing Wash -8/-3.5, TB +2.5/+7.5, etc?

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5dimes sucks now for betting teasers. I'm stuck doing them on [censored] Bodog for -110. Oh well.

prodonkey 10-21-2007 08:23 AM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
bodog always shades their lines to the favorite, great for betting dogs though.

Limpfold 10-21-2007 08:34 AM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
Gonna be nice and point it out one last time, if you only have -110 available then you don't rr the 2 teamers (in a multigame week), you go for the 3 teamers at +180. Unless of course you like to give away about half your EV.

And if anyone eventually should reply to this post - open the WongFAQ, scroll down to where MT2R links a post by TomCowley, read.

Schwatt 10-21-2007 09:23 AM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
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Oh man, why is 5dimes showing Wash -8/-3.5, TB +2.5/+7.5, etc?

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You can only bet those lines straight up, if you try to tease them, they change to +9, +9.5, etc.

Schwatt 10-21-2007 09:31 AM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
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Gonna be nice and point it out one last time, if you only have -110 available then you don't rr the 2 teamers (in a multigame week), you go for the 3 teamers at +180. Unless of course you like to give away about half your EV.



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This is what I'm doing this week. However, not until after I had R/R all the teams did I realize that the variance is way higher betting the 3 teamers over the 2 teamers. The expectation is much higher on a perfect week though.
If we go 6/6 this week I will win 70% of my total bankroll in one week.

03 Z4 10-21-2007 11:03 AM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
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Gonna be nice and point it out one last time, if you only have -110 available

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Unless I'm mistaken, only place these days u can get even odds on teasers is local as none of online sites do this. 5dimes doesn't count as they shade lines to prevent teasing. Mansion did last yr but close to US now.

Austiger 10-21-2007 11:42 AM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
Hou is now -2. Should we be teasing Tennessee at +2/+8?

chaz64 10-21-2007 11:45 AM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
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Gonna be nice and point it out one last time, if you only have -110 available then you don't rr the 2 teamers (in a multigame week), you go for the 3 teamers at +180. Unless of course you like to give away about half your EV.



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QFT. I did NO/TB/Sea as one 3 teamer at Bodog, stayed away from the games with questionable QBs.

GL all.

NajdorfDefense 10-21-2007 11:45 AM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
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Wash -8/-2
NO -8/-2
TB +2.5/+8.5
KC +2.5/+8.5
SEA -8/-2


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Doing all 2 and 3 team teases today. And a 5-team. 1 unit.

0-1 2 weeks ago on 1-team tease. +16.8u YTD NFL Wong Teasers.

knicknut 10-21-2007 11:54 AM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
Bills are also minus odds on the +2.5 at pinn, so teasing them is now a wong, if you get them at +3 that's just gravy.

Adding Tennessee gives us 7 games to round robin.

I just did 6 (with Buf) for 3 teamers (20) and 4 teamers (15). 7 teams would make it 35 of each.... uh... maybe i'll let that one go then considering i already sized my bets thinking i was going to place 35 bets, not 70 [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Schwatt 10-21-2007 11:55 AM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
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Hou is now -2. Should we be teasing Tennessee at +2/+8?

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Where are you seeing that?

edit: nevermind, needed to refresh lines

paperchamp 10-21-2007 11:59 AM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
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Hou is now -2. Should we be teasing Tennessee at +2/+8?

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Where are you seeing that?

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Bodog, 5dimes, some others.

Schwatt 10-21-2007 12:04 PM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
I assume VY must not be playing, that's a 3.5 pt move in 3 hours.

03 Z4 10-21-2007 12:15 PM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
Colins starting, VY back-up.

Daliman 10-21-2007 12:20 PM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
I just couldn't bring myself to do 28 teases in one week...










So I'm doing 36.

Wash -8/-2
NO -8/-2
TB +2.5/+8.5
KC +2/+8
SEA -8.5/-2.5
Buff +3/+9

and at -110

Dall -9/-2.5
NYG -9/-2.5
Hou +1/+7.5

All to win 720.


ONE TIME!

Schwatt 10-21-2007 12:24 PM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
I don't think I'm gonna tease Tennessee. Between VY not starting, and all the other teasers, I'm gonna lay off.
Got Hou when they were +1.5, gonna let that ride.

Have teasers on 8 teams this week, including now Buffalo, and earlier when NYG fell briefly to -8.5.

coolmoedee 10-21-2007 12:30 PM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
I have these, and thanks do the wanger

Wash -2.5
NO - 2.5
Seattle -2.5

$100 to win $140

NewGuy 10-21-2007 12:33 PM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
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I have these, and thanks do the wanger

Wash -2.5
NO - 2.5
Seattle -2.5

$100 to win $140

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I think you can find better odds - $100 should get you at least $180 on a 3-team 6-point teaser

brendanb438 10-21-2007 12:34 PM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
Yeah those odds are bad. +180 on Bodog, 5Dimes, WSEX, hell even Sportsbook.com and a bunch of others.

knicknut 10-21-2007 12:50 PM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
$25k? Wow, good luck Daliman. I'm looking to win total what you're going to win on each one...

LetsGetItOn 10-21-2007 01:02 PM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
This is my first week trying some can someone please tell me if I did it correctly?

2 Team Teaser #89891496
Football - NFL Lines (Game) Pointspread
NFL - WEEK 7
(408) New Orleans Saints -2 Sun@1:00p
Competitor: (407) Atlanta Falcons
(Teased 6.0 points)
Football - NFL Lines (Game) Pointspread
NFL - WEEK 7
(417) Tampa Bay Buccaneers +8½ Sun@1:00p
Competitor: (418) Detroit Lions
(Teased 6.0 points)
Risk $50.00 to win $45.45

2 Team Teaser #89892105
Football - NFL Lines (Game) Pointspread
NFL - WEEK 7
(417) Tampa Bay Buccaneers +8½ Sun@1:00p
Competitor: (418) Detroit Lions
(Teased 6.0 points)
Football - NFL Lines (Game) Pointspread
NFL - WEEK 7
(428) Seattle Seahawks -2 Sun@4:15p
Competitor: (427) St. Louis Rams
(Teased 6.0 points)
Risk $50.00 to win $45.45

3 Team Teaser #89892466
Football - NFL Lines (Game) Pointspread
NFL - WEEK 7
(408) New Orleans Saints -2 Sun@1:00p
Competitor: (407) Atlanta Falcons
(Teased 6.0 points)
Football - NFL Lines (Game) Pointspread
NFL - WEEK 7
(417) Tampa Bay Buccaneers +8½ Sun@1:00p
Competitor: (418) Detroit Lions
(Teased 6.0 points)
Football - NFL Lines (Game) Pointspread
NFL - WEEK 7
(428) Seattle Seahawks -2 Sun@4:15p
Competitor: (427) St. Louis Rams
(Teased 6.0 points)
Risk $50.00 to win $90.00

2 Team Teaser #89998074
Football - NFL Lines (Game) Pointspread
NFL - WEEK 7
(406) Washington Redskins -2 Sun@1:00p
Competitor: (405) Arizona Cardinals
(Teased 6.0 points)
Football - NFL Lines (Game) Pointspread
NFL - WEEK 7
(420) Houston Texans +4 Sun@1:00p
Competitor: (419) Tennessee Titans
(Teased 6.0 points)
Risk $50.00 to win $45.45

2 Team Teaser #90009450
Football - NFL Lines (Game) Pointspread
NFL - WEEK 7
(420) Houston Texans +4 Sun@1:00p
Competitor: (419) Tennessee Titans
(Teased 6.0 points)
Football - NFL Lines (Game) Pointspread
NFL - WEEK 7
(428) Seattle Seahawks -2 Sun@4:15p
Competitor: (427) St. Louis Rams
(Teased 6.0 points)
Risk $50.00 to win $45.45

calmB4storm 10-21-2007 01:06 PM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
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(420) Houston Texans +4 Sun@1:00p
Competitor: (419) Tennessee Titans
(Teased 6.0 points)

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This is bad.

Thremp 10-21-2007 01:11 PM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
[ QUOTE ]
This is my first week trying some can someone please tell me if I did it correctly?

2 Team Teaser #89891496
Football - NFL Lines (Game) Pointspread
NFL - WEEK 7
(408) New Orleans Saints -2 Sun@1:00p
Competitor: (407) Atlanta Falcons
(Teased 6.0 points)
Football - NFL Lines (Game) Pointspread
NFL - WEEK 7
(417) Tampa Bay Buccaneers +8½ Sun@1:00p
Competitor: (418) Detroit Lions
(Teased 6.0 points)
Risk $50.00 to win $45.45

2 Team Teaser #89892105
Football - NFL Lines (Game) Pointspread
NFL - WEEK 7
(417) Tampa Bay Buccaneers +8½ Sun@1:00p
Competitor: (418) Detroit Lions
(Teased 6.0 points)
Football - NFL Lines (Game) Pointspread
NFL - WEEK 7
(428) Seattle Seahawks -2 Sun@4:15p
Competitor: (427) St. Louis Rams
(Teased 6.0 points)
Risk $50.00 to win $45.45

3 Team Teaser #89892466
Football - NFL Lines (Game) Pointspread
NFL - WEEK 7
(408) New Orleans Saints -2 Sun@1:00p
Competitor: (407) Atlanta Falcons
(Teased 6.0 points)
Football - NFL Lines (Game) Pointspread
NFL - WEEK 7
(417) Tampa Bay Buccaneers +8½ Sun@1:00p
Competitor: (418) Detroit Lions
(Teased 6.0 points)
Football - NFL Lines (Game) Pointspread
NFL - WEEK 7
(428) Seattle Seahawks -2 Sun@4:15p
Competitor: (427) St. Louis Rams
(Teased 6.0 points)
Risk $50.00 to win $90.00

2 Team Teaser #89998074
Football - NFL Lines (Game) Pointspread
NFL - WEEK 7
(406) Washington Redskins -2 Sun@1:00p
Competitor: (405) Arizona Cardinals
(Teased 6.0 points)
Football - NFL Lines (Game) Pointspread
NFL - WEEK 7
(420) Houston Texans +4 Sun@1:00p
Competitor: (419) Tennessee Titans
(Teased 6.0 points)
Risk $50.00 to win $45.45

2 Team Teaser #90009450
Football - NFL Lines (Game) Pointspread
NFL - WEEK 7
(420) Houston Texans +4 Sun@1:00p
Competitor: (419) Tennessee Titans
(Teased 6.0 points)
Football - NFL Lines (Game) Pointspread
NFL - WEEK 7
(428) Seattle Seahawks -2 Sun@4:15p
Competitor: (427) St. Louis Rams
(Teased 6.0 points)
Risk $50.00 to win $45.45

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Kiwi

Schwatt 10-21-2007 01:11 PM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
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This is my first week trying some can someone please tell me if I did it correctly?



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You waited too long to tease Hou, if you missed them at +1.5 to +2.5 then they are NOT teaseable.

27offsuit 10-21-2007 01:13 PM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
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ONE TIME!

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priceless

Thremp 10-21-2007 01:15 PM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
This is my first week trying some can someone please tell me if I did it correctly?



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You waited too long to tease Hou, if you missed them at +1.5 to +2.5 then they are NOT teaseable.

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He teased the wrong side. He didn't "miss" them. He meant to do Titans.

brendanb438 10-21-2007 01:16 PM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
How hard is it to understand that if you are not crossing the 3 and 7 you are not making a wong teaser?? Damn my head hurts. Also Houston is off to a stellar start. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

Austiger 10-21-2007 01:18 PM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
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This is my first week trying some can someone please tell me if I did it correctly?



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You waited too long to tease Hou, if you missed them at +1.5 to +2.5 then they are NOT teaseable.

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He teased the wrong side. He didn't "miss" them. He meant to do Titans.

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Actually he was following Dali, so I think he did mean to do Houston. But by that time Tenn. was the only teaser candidate.

Schwatt 10-21-2007 01:23 PM

Re: Daliman\'s Wong Teasers, Season Deux: Week 7
 
[ QUOTE ]
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This is my first week trying some can someone please tell me if I did it correctly?



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You waited too long to tease Hou, if you missed them at +1.5 to +2.5 then they are NOT teaseable.

[/ QUOTE ]

He teased the wrong side. He didn't "miss" them. He meant to do Titans.

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How do you tease the wrong team?

I assumed he was just tailing the posted plays on here and teased Hou without looking at the line.


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