nl 100, I played my AA extremely passive. line check.
 

no reads on villain but seems he knows what he's doing.
is this check all 3 streets fine?



Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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UTG: $152.75
Hero (MP): $119.15
CO: $185.10
BTN: $117.35
SB: $219.45
BB: $100

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $4</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $15.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($37) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($37) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($37) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Re: nl 100, I played my AA extremely passive. line check.
 

Obviously you're not getting maximum value out of your AA and you're giving him every opportunity to out draw you.

I'd like to see a c.bet on the flop here, as you should try to get some value ouot of AQ. The king here should be bet aswell because the may have TT and just picked up a straight draw or he may have AK in which case you should be sucking value out of him. The two is a hramless card and he checks to you, now i'm pretty sure you're ahead now because he's essentailly called you're pf 3bet and then committed no more money to the pot so you should bet here to get value from whatever hand he happens to hold.

If you bet one street and get called then it's fine to check later streets in the name of pot control, but I seriously think you're ahead here and you're not maximizing your profits which is as detrementtal to your win rate as not minimizing your losses.

Re: nl 100, I played my AA extremely passive. line check.
 

AA, 3bet pot, get it in any way you can. His line looks a lot like Ak or a mid pocket pair.

Re: nl 100, I played my AA extremely passive. line check.
 

eeee....bet flop plz to charge draws, depending on villian plan accordingly on turn, check behind on turn after betting flop is OK and call a reasonable bet on river

Re: nl 100, I played my AA extremely passive. line check.
 

OP hates the monie$! bet bet...push

Re: nl 100, I played my AA extremely passive. line check.
 

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eeee....bet flop plz to charge draws, depending on villian plan accordingly on turn, check behind on turn after betting flop is OK and call a reasonable bet on river

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i'd say this is the standard line imo.

Re: nl 100, I played my AA extremely passive. line check.
 

So... You hate money?

Re: nl 100, I played my AA extremely passive. line check.
 

I agree that the standard line is bet/bet/push, but I see an argument for sometimes checking behind on this flop for deception/balancing purposes if you check behind here when you dont have a piece of the board, but if you do check the flop behind you should bet for value on one of the remaining streets

Re: nl 100, I played my AA extremely passive. line check.
 

I think you definitely need to bet this flop. This is a pretty draw-heavy board, and I see no reason to let them draw for free.

Re: nl 100, I played my AA extremely passive. line check.
 

Gross man. It's okay to play it passive sometimes but this makes me a sad panda. Lets just ignore the flop and turn for now...what is up with the river? Did he decide to trap you for 3 streets? Not value betting and getting a call from AK or some mid pair is just refusing free money.

Re: nl 100, I played my AA extremely passive. line check.
 

If you dont bet this flop you are a losing player!

Re: nl 100, I played my AA extremely passive. line check.
 

Bet this flop 100% and push turn, or check turn and push river if he checked behind the turn

Re: nl 100, I played my AA extremely passive. line check.
 

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If you dont bet this flop you are a losing player!

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That is debatable

Re: nl 100, I played my AA extremely passive. line check.
 

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If you dont bet this flop you are a losing player!

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That is debatable

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yea definetely debatable lol, but i like a flop bet and proceed cautiously from there IMO. you wont get much more value from any hands you beat

Re: nl 100, I played my AA extremely passive. line check.
 

What is this??

Do you seriously think he is checking the turn AND the river to you when he has two pair, a set, a straight or whatever other monster you're putting him on? Your hand is so rediculously under-repped. Bet the river and get called by anything.

Of course bet the flop, etc as well.

Re: nl 100, I played my AA extremely passive. line check.
 

Bet flop.

Since you didn't, bet turn.

Since you didn't, bet river.

Since you didn't, maybe get a coach.

Re: nl 100, I played my AA extremely passive. line check.
 

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Bet flop.

Since you didn't, bet turn.

Since you didn't, bet river.

Since you didn't, maybe get a coach.

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this pretty much sums it up

Re: nl 100, I played my AA extremely passive. line check.
 

what do you guys think SB's range for coldcalling a UTG+1 3bet is?

Re: nl 100, I played my AA extremely passive. line check.
 

wow

Re: nl 100, I played my AA extremely passive. line check.
 

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what do you guys think SB's range for coldcalling a UTG+1 3bet is?

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See lots of TAGFish do this with 22+/AK.

At night when they go to sleep, they count implied odds instead of sheep.

Re: nl 100, I played my AA extremely passive. line check.
 

i think you should bet somewhere.

Re: nl 100, I played my AA extremely passive. line check.
 

I think when checked to on the flop with a strong straight and flush draws on board a cont. bet is standard most of the time. It's ok to check that flop for deception but you lose most the value you could get from a hand that could call thinking there ahead. If checked for deception on flop then you failed to capitalize by betting turn or river based on the deception. There's just too many ways he can catch up to you and you pay them off based on your passive play.

Re: nl 100, I played my AA extremely passive. line check.
 

What's calling your river shove on that board that you beat?

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Bet this flop 100% and push turn, or check turn and push river if he checked behind the turn

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Re: nl 100, I played my AA extremely passive. line check.
 

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Bet flop.

Since you didn't, bet turn.

Since you didn't, bet river.

Since you didn't, maybe get a coach.

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Re: nl 100, I played my AA extremely passive. line check.
 

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Bet this flop 100% and push turn, or check turn and push river if he checked behind the turn

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Villain is the SB, so he isn't likely to check behind on the turn.

Re: nl 100, I played my AA extremely passive. line check.
 

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Bet flop.

Since you didn't, bet turn.

Since you didn't, bet river.

Since you didn't, maybe get a coach.

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True.

Re: nl 100, I played my AA extremely passive. line check.
 

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what do you guys think SB's range for coldcalling a UTG+1 3bet is?

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See lots of TAGFish do this with 22+/AK.

At night when they go to sleep, they count implied odds instead of sheep.

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lolol