5/10 stars, 200bbs deep
 

Villain is "Alotofaction" on stars. I had 4 bet him twice already, i opted for the more tricky line preflop. comments appreciated.

PokerStars Game #12813106382: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10) - 2007/10/24 - 02:55:08 (ET)
Table 'Laetitia III' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: g0lfa ($3106.90 in chips)
Seat 3: Bill Ivey ($1277.75 in chips)
Seat 4: MT UR Wallet ($180 in chips)
Seat 5: BiG_RoN81 ($575.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Alotofaction ($2032.75 in chips)
Alotofaction: posts small blind $5
g0lfa: posts big blind $10
murph0511: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to g0lfa [Qc Qd]
Bill Ivey: folds
MT UR Wallet: raises $20 to $30
BiG_RoN81: folds
Alotofaction: raises $80 to $110
g0lfa: calls $100
MT UR Wallet: folds
*** FLOP *** [3h 7c 9s]
Alotofaction: bets $140
g0lfa: calls $140
*** TURN *** [3h 7c 9s] [5s]
Alotofaction: bets $470
g0lfa: calls $470
*** RIVER *** [3h 7c 9s 5s] [3c]
Alotofaction: bets $1312.75 and is all-in
g0lfa: ??

Re: 5/10 stars, 200bbs deep
 

Why would you NOT 4bet him this time?

Re: 5/10 stars, 200bbs deep
 

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Why would you NOT 4bet him this time?

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Because we're not comfortable getting it in here with QQ for 200bb. Plus we have postition.

I play the same and I fold river. If this was AOA 3 months ago, I would snapcall.

Re: 5/10 stars, 200bbs deep
 

i dont think hes liable to go nutso preflop with a worse hand (bluff) than yours anyway. but i still dont really like 4betting this deep anyway.

this is well played and riv is an easy fold imo.

Re: 5/10 stars, 200bbs deep
 

Well played, I fold river. I also don't like 4 betting preflop. Good line.

Re: 5/10 stars, 200bbs deep
 

No, sorry, given your history with him, I think you should 4 bet because he might be getting frustrated.

Re: 5/10 stars, 200bbs deep
 

what do you guys put his range at?

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what do you guys put his range at?

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my read was that he either had AA, KK , or a complete bluff. He bet very quickly on the flop and turn making me think it was unlikely he flopped 999 or 777, although possible.

Re: 5/10 stars, 200bbs deep
 

I mean at best you are hoping JJ, but I seriously doubt it. So yeah I agree with your range that this is...
[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] mostly AA/KK
[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] sometimes sets
[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] possibly a bluff (but less likely unless he is in crazy mode.)

So...if you folded river then nh.

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Re: 5/10 stars, 200bbs deep
 

I def fold river, your hand is face up and I doubt he's trying to push you off it

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Re: 5/10 stars, 200bbs deep
 

Although I understand your approach preflop, imho you should have defined the hand in flop, or even on turn.

I don't know the villain but you're allowing him to bluff you out with AK-JJ and TT here so by the way you played the hand you must call. Just my grain of salt.

Re: 5/10 stars, 200bbs deep
 

I don't like a RR PF as I think he has a pretty strong hand to RR the short stack originally. I think we'll look insanely strong here if we 4-bet and playing a pot in position w/ QQ isn't terrible.

I don't know what to do here, though. I'd probably not fold the turn, but fold the river against most people, but I've heard Alotofaction is nutty and terrible. Someone who has played w/ him can probably give better advice.

Re: 5/10 stars, 200bbs deep
 

My instincts, just from playing with him, say to snap call this and pretty much view his very strong lines as like A4cc and lol while you take his stack with a pair. That was at stars 400nl and probably 5 months back, so things may be different now. If he's still hyper-aggro-tard style, I would call most the time.

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My instincts, just from playing with him, say to snap call this and pretty much view his very strong lines as like A4cc and lol while you take his stack with a pair. That was at stars 400nl and probably 5 months back, so things may be different now. If he's still hyper-aggro-tard style, I would call most the time.

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someone must have hooked him up with some sedatives cause he runs like 18/15 and spews a ton less at 5/10

Re: 5/10 stars, 200bbs deep
 

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My instincts, just from playing with him, say to snap call this and pretty much view his very strong lines as like A4cc and lol while you take his stack with a pair. That was at stars 400nl and probably 5 months back, so things may be different now. If he's still hyper-aggro-tard style, I would call most the time.

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someone must have hooked him up with some sedatives cause he runs like 18/15 and spews a ton less at 5/10

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Yea it seems like it's a different person playing tbh

Re: 5/10 stars, 200bbs deep
 

Folding river here seems OK.