\"Earn $30,000 Per Month Playing Online Poker\" by Ryan Wiseman
 

I just saw this title today on Amazon. Has anyone read or heard of it? Looks like it is geared completely towards SNG's but I have not heard of the author.
Here is a link:
Earn $30,000 per month playing Online Poker

I think I'll order it and give a review.

Re: \"Earn $30,000 Per Month Playing Online Poker\" by Ryan Wiseman
 

Sounds silly.
What if my goal is to earn 40k a month?
Not a good book for me then...shoot...was thinking about ordering it...oh well....next.

Re: \"Earn $30,000 Per Month Playing Online Poker\" by Ryan Wiseman
 

Title fails to mention that you have to start out with money, so it probably isn't much use to me.

I'd appreciate the review though.

Re: \"Earn $30,000 Per Month Playing Online Poker\" by Ryan Wiseman
 

I had it on pre-order and got my copy today!

I read a lot of the remarks here on 2+2 about how awful this book is sure to be and how a book with such a title alone is sure to be a bomb. If you thought this book was going to be a dud you were RIGHT!! I did see it was published by ECW Press which published Angel Largay's book which I really enjoyed so I felt this book may have a chance of having some decent information. I had some hope for this book but overall it is a letdown. The information in this book could easily be summed up in a matter of paragraphs!

Amazon.com and the publisher show this book to have 240 pages which is incorrect. I opened up the box and I thought they forgot the book!!! The book has only 120 pages... Okay great I have a short attention span and if I can read this book while sitting on the toilet all the better right?!?! Well really this book is perfect for a trip to the toilet however more so for when you run out of toilet paper and not for it's short 120 page length.

The first clue this book is a dud is chapter 1 which basicly tells you how to get online and set up a poker account on Party Poker. Then it details a lot of the SNG helper tools,multi tabling helpers, PokerTracker, PAHUD and outlines them and offers you links to them, well that was a waste of 20 pages as far as I am concerned let me get to some strategy please..

The book suggests typical SNG strategy of staying tight and then attacking during the bubble or at the appropriate blind levels. It uses the Party Poker SNG structure as the basis for small strategic input which is layed out in more or less bullet points. You start at the 10 dollar buy in with a 500 dollar bankroll and using the books tips you are supposed to be a winning player and move up as you get the required bankroll for the next level....which for example the 20 dollar sng's is 1500-1700 dollars and so on.. So it is give or take around 40-50 buy ins.

So for the 10-55 dollar SNG's you will use the same strategy which for example suggests you limp AK because nobody will fold at the lower levels so just limp it. Also if you catch top pair and top kicker you are to go all in if someone bets into you otherwise bet out 75 percent of the pot. It doesnt really say what you do if you bet and are called... TOTALLY leaves you hanging. I have a huge problem with a book that is written for supposedly beginners yet fails to follow through with proper advice. It basicly is a giveaway that the book is just mostly filler and the author was too lazy to actually get down into the strategic substance that is needed.

Each new buy in level the book tends to kinda offer you a new play almost implying that this is a play that works at this level. I think at the 100 and up buy ins he says everybody is playing standard sng strategy so go ahead and take advantage of this but still overall play pretty tight. The stop n go and the shove with multiple limpers he details at the later buy in levels.

The book makes a lot of references to 2+2 which leads me to believe he probably submitted the manuscript to 2+2 and was rejected. He has his own little website he mentions in the book where he wants his readers to download poker sites from which he says is so he can monitor their success.. ahem if monitoring success means measuring your referral paychecks sure. His website is www.sitngoprofessional.com it seems at this point contacting him is the only thing you can do from there.

All in all this book was a huge letdown however I will say it is only 13 bucks so if you have a poker book addiction it will decorate the coffee table well. Otherwise I would say someone is WAY better off with Moshman's book which has the same bankroll guidelines and the strategy that I feel was COMPLETELY missing from this book.

Book Gets a D+ Sorry Ryan Wiseman better luck next time...

If someone wants some more of it clarified I will be more than happy to run and grab the book so I can be as clear as possible. I can REALLY lay the strategy out clearly it is THAT thin on substance.

Re: \"Earn $30,000 Per Month Playing Online Poker\" by Ryan Wiseman
 

Rockasilly,

Thanks for the review, I think you've just saved me 13 bucks. What is the quality of the late game advice? Does he mention ICM or stack dependent play on the bubble for example?

Also, in an earlier thread about this book someone said it was similar to "Kill Phil" with push/fold charts and the like? Is this true?

Cheers

Re: \"Earn $30,000 Per Month Playing Online Poker\" by Ryan Wiseman
 

obv its terrible book if it has this title, kind of a scma porb.

inone way i think hes a scum but then people that are dumb enough to buy this prob deserved to be ripped off.

Re: \"Earn $30,000 Per Month Playing Online Poker\" by Ryan Wiseman
 

With a title like that even if it had any good content it would still be a dud, it comes off as huckster bs.

Re: \"Earn $30,000 Per Month Playing Online Poker\" by Ryan Wiseman
 

Thanks for the review.
I was just about to order it but I will pass now. That is too bad - I was actually looking forward to it.
I wonder if Ryan really does earn $30K/month - do you have his handle on Pokerstars?

Re: \"Earn $30,000 Per Month Playing Online Poker\" by Ryan Wiseman
 

I'm not sure what is your level of expertise.

But I consider myself a beginner+.

With that said, Is it worth for me to read this book ?

Just to define what I meant by beginner+, I have read SNG Strategy by Collin Moshman. I was able to understand some of the concepts but the advanced ones are way over my head. I need to play a few thousand more hands and re-read this book a couple of more times before I can understand the advanced concepts that Moshman has detailed. But there were a few hand analysis in this book that I was able to answer correctly w/o looking at the answers ahead.

Did you have a chance to read Moshman's book ?

Am I in a point right now that I won't benefit reading Wiseman's book ? Because maybe it's too basic ?

Regards.....

Re: \"Earn $30,000 Per Month Playing Online Poker\" by Ryan Wiseman
 

"Every SNG book stands and falls on it's ICM chapter."

I remember this quote from the Moshman review thread. No ICM chapter = garbage book.

Re: \"Earn $30,000 Per Month Playing Online Poker\" by Ryan Wiseman
 

I have also heard you can earn $30,000 a month stuffing envelopes. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

Re: \"Earn $30,000 Per Month Playing Online Poker\" by Ryan Wiseman
 

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No, save the money and play another SnG instead, you'll probably learn more. Just keep playing and rereading Moshman's book.

Re: \"Earn $30,000 Per Month Playing Online Poker\" by Ryan Wiseman
 

First off I want Ryan Wiseman to step out of his igloo or whatever he is in up in Canada and post to defend his book seeing as he is a member here and promoted these forums in the book itself.

I also want him to put up his playing usernames so he can be Sharkscoped. His book advocates strongly looking up other players using programs like Poker Prophecy and even trading databases with other regulars at your sit n go buy in level that you play at to find out info on opponents. I think fair is fair if you want to see other people's stats why not share your own rather than letting your publisher put out their little press release bio on you with your claim of making 100k.

Okay now as far as the questions-No ICM mention although his bubble strategy seems to be what those that are ICM knowledgeable would advocate he doesnt seem to really go further and explain it all out. Also some of his plays late in the tourney on the bubble I think are kinda borderline based on ICM.

For a beginner this book would probably leave you with more questions than answers and more leaks to plug. The style he suggests you play has some huge flaws. I feel to even call it a system or a style would be wrong because it is soo incomplete.

I feel it is a letdown but hey like I said before it is 13 bucks and I have decided I don't have a gambling addiction as much as I have a gambling book addiction so it didn't make me feel too bad to buy this book even though it is a disappointment.

I like the idea of the book of taking someone at a low level, taking them to the higher levels, and basicly showing how to grind up a bankroll with guidelines. I would have liked him to show based on ROI how many games you can play at one level before you can expect to move on and suggestions as to what your goals should be each day so you can stay on track for reaching your target. He needs to explore ICM and present a lot more situations on each level using the ICM theory and getting a reader used to applying it while also keeping in mind the mindset of players at each level and how that may change ones own decision making in each situation.

I think basicly I would like the same book but just have Eric "Sheets" Haber, or Jennifear write it. ha

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So for the 10-55 dollar SNG's you will use the same strategy which for example suggests you limp AK because nobody will fold at the lower levels so just limp it. Also if you catch top pair and top kicker you are to go all in if someone bets into you otherwise bet out 75 percent of the pot. It doesnt really say what you do if you bet and are called... TOTALLY leaves you hanging. I have a huge problem with a book that is written for supposedly beginners yet fails to follow through with proper advice. It basicly is a giveaway that the book is just mostly filler and the author was too lazy to actually get down into the strategic substance that is needed.

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You are assuming that the author knows anything of substance.

Re: \"Earn $30,000 Per Month Playing Online Poker\" by Ryan Wiseman
 

Thanks for the review.

I'm a sucker for these sorts of books.
You just saved me some money.

Thanks again.

Re: \"Earn $30,000 Per Month Playing Online Poker\" by Ryan Wiseman
 

it was always going to be a useless book. The title alone should have been enough.

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The title alone should have been enough.

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Hi Jay:

That may not be correct. Sometimes publishers do silly things and surprise their authors.

best wishes,
Mason

Re: \"Earn $30,000 Per Month Playing Online Poker\" by Ryan Wiseman
 

I don't really understand the purpose of writing a book on how to crush the SNGs at PP when US players can't even play there. Obviously, the majority of those that grabbed this book were probably US customers, so thanks for whatever good this book has to offer. Hmm, that table looks a bit wobbly, I HAVE AN IDEA!

And, I have to agree with Rockasilly, I think Sheets could write a pretty decent book. I also share an addiction to all this poker literature. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I don't really understand the purpose of writing a book on how to crush the SNGs at PP when US players can't even play there.

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It was written by a Canadian, presumably directed towards that, and the foreign, market (it looks to have been printed in the UK as well).

For an absolute beginner, I actually don't see the book as that bad. It's pretty prescriptive in telling beginners how to play these tourneys. But it does look like it's been put together as not much more than a newsletter that the authors had initially written it as.

One of the first things that I read that struck me as unusual was in the second chapter, where the author says (I'm paraphrasing), "We're going to assume you have some understanding of pot odds". This was after the first chapter outlining how to open an online account at Partypoker.

I wonder who Wiseman is? It's not easy to make $30K a month playing SNG's and go completely unnoticed by the poker community. Wiseman's probably a pseudonym. I know RyanGHall is from the same part of Canada and has probably put up those $'s.

Anyway, it's obviously not directed at the market that cruises 2+2, but I'm not sure that it's a total disaster for the beginner either.

Jase

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With a title like that even if it had any good content it would still be a dud, it comes off as huckster bs.

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Exactly. Who would ever buy a book from anyone who uses titles like 'how to make $100,000 a year'?

Re: \"Earn $30,000 Per Month Playing Online Poker\" by Ryan Wiseman
 

I don't want to even recommend it for beginners because it only gives little tips and hints. You don't get advice for a full hand and all the possible scenarious that could happen even in a simple situation.

I love his great advice of limping AK at the lower levels because you can't get anybody to fold then advocating you go ahead and shove all in when you hit the top pair top kicker!

I have a problem with the book because the book is claiming to take someone with little or no experience basicly and taking them with 500 bucks all the way up to high buy in SNG's with little or no advice? I also really was not a fan of the fact the publisher and amazon both listed the book as being 240 pages long initially and then come to find out it is nothing more than 120 small pages...

Bogus claims all around with this book! I doubt Ryan Wiseman exists.

Re: \"Earn $30,000 Per Month Playing Online Poker\" by Ryan Wiseman
 

I know what ICBM means, but what is ICM?

Buzz

Re: \"Earn $30,000 Per Month Playing Online Poker\" by Ryan Wiseman
 

It stands for Independant Chip Model. A good explanation is here: http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...;highlight=icm

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