K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???
 

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Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $12.25
UTG: $14.05
MP: $5.45
CO: $5.10
Hero (BTN): $10
SB: $13.55

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.70</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $1.80</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls $1.10

Flop: ($3.95) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $3.50</font>

Re: K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???
 

fold preflop both times, KJo is a crappy hand, full of reverse implied odds

as played...i think i play it the same on the flop

Re: K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???
 

Sorry, didn't see you were on the button. Raising this on the button is fine to me if its folded to me.

I'll almost always fold to the 3bet though.

Re: K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???
 

I fold preflop but I'm felting this on the flop.

Re: K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???
 

I raise PF as you did, but fold to reraise, especially from BB, but on the flop I am happy to get it all in, this is about as good a flop as you can hope with KJo :S

Re: K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???
 

raising PF sucks, just fold it

Re: K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???
 

KJo is still in the top 1/8th of hands. For the sake of a blind steal here this is fine imo. If you're called you have position with a potentially (yet often dominated I admit) reasonable hand.

I personally only raise this when the blinds are tight enough that I have a reasonable chance of getting away with this pf most of the time.

Calling the 3bet is the main problem here.

Re: K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???
 

Opps. Sorry. I thought pf was folded around.

I am certain to fold in this situation.

Sorry Micro.

Re: K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???
 

yea if it was folded to us on the button, its an easy raise...but not with 3 limpers. if its suited i may limp behind

Re: K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???
 

You have less than a PSR.


Pot is 12:8 so you need 40%.

You are 41% against jj+.

He might fold every once in a while.

Rake hurts a little.

A call is prob slightly +ev, maybe neutral.

Slight rewards, high variance.

I just shove it in.

Re: K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???
 

Too late to edit, but what I was saying:

You are prob looking at a 0ev to slightly +ev situation but with a lot of variance.

However, this isn't all bad.

I take 0ev spots all the time if I think it can help my table image (shoving with draws so I get called when I shove sets vs tp, etc).

Re: K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???
 

ye ICmoney is pretty right. I just shove that, and hope to see some nice Ace of our suit soon [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Re: K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???
 

I can understand folding KJo UTG, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with raising limpers with it from the button we will often be called by worse hands .
I fold to the PF 3bet.
as played ship it in, we have 14 outs to a monster.

Re: K high flsh draw w/ top pair to preflop reraiser???
 

I dunno if you get enough fold equity here to shove. It really depends whether you ca get overpairs with no club to fold. Overpairs are almost entirely villain's range. I very rarely see a limp 3-bet with anything but QQ+. With that i think it's +EV if you can fold out a good portion of the overpairs but at Micro i don't think that happens.

I dunno what to do. Probly just fold. But don't play this preflop and you don't have these problems.