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Berge20 10-31-2007 09:28 AM

Charity Events (PPA involved)
 
Do we allow charity event postings?

The PPA is teaming up with Horton's in the DC area:
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Normally I don't have a problem with it, but given it is a PPA related event--it may be viewed as soliciting membership, perhaps?

Berge20 10-31-2007 10:13 AM

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PS - The PPA guys PM'd me and asked if the above is appropriate.

Related thread that one of our Legislation Forum regulars started

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Gildwulf 10-31-2007 10:17 AM

Re: Charity Events (PPA involved)
 
I also have a question about this...one person wanted to post about donating to Dana Farber for the Boston Marathon (a friend was running)

and sent this link
link

was unsure how to proceed, as it would be a direct donation to dana farber

iron81 10-31-2007 10:34 AM

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I thought the main reason we don't like fundraisers is the risk of a Vig esque scam. I'm currently allowing a Ron Paul Fundraiser thread because the money is going directly to the candidate with a minimal risk of a scam. For Gildwulf's link, it looks like the money is going directly to the research institute and the individual fundraiser merely gets credit, so I'd let it go.

For Berge's link, I don't think that the OP constitutes spam because a 3rd party posted it. However, I might lock it for being off-topic.

MrWookie 10-31-2007 10:35 AM

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I don't know who Dana Farber is, but my personal inclination would be to allow posts about giving directly to well-known charitable organizations but ban posts about giving to individuals, even if they say they'll give the money to a charity.

Gildwulf 10-31-2007 10:38 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
I don't know who Dana Farber is, but my personal inclination would be to allow posts about giving directly to well-known charitable organizations but ban posts about giving to individuals, even if they say they'll give the money to a charity.

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LOL


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Mason Malmuth 10-31-2007 11:28 AM

Re: Charity Events (PPA involved)
 
Hi Berge:

This is just the sort of thing that I'm very uncomfortable with and I do not believe we should allow on our site. I believe it is a mistake to allow any requests for money from our members even if the cause is good.

Best wishes,
Mason

Gildwulf 10-31-2007 11:30 AM

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MM,

I planned to do an unofficial bbv christmas drive. The idea would be just post a screenshot or explain a good deed you did on christmas (give a bum a hot meal, donate a grand to charity, etc). It wouldn't be soliciting donations for a specific organization.

Would that be ok?

Mason Malmuth 10-31-2007 11:32 AM

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HI Gildwulf:

I don't thnk this should be allowed either. By allowing stuff like this, we'll open the flood gates (so to speak) and some of this stuff, as we saw with the CEO Poker Tour, won't be legit.

Best wishes,
Mason

Mason Malmuth 10-31-2007 11:35 AM

Re: Charity Events (PPA involved)
 
In general I think it's wrong to be asking our members for money. If you want to talk about your good deeds, that's a little different as long as the money aspect of the equation is not part of it.

Best wishes,
Mason

Gildwulf 10-31-2007 11:35 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
HI Gildwulf:

I don't thnk this should be allowed either. By allowing stuff like this, we'll open the flood gates (so to speak) and some of this stuff, as we saw with the CEO Poker Tour, won't be legit.

Best wishes,
Mason

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Seriously? Just a thread that says "hey do a good deed today" and posting screenshots or telling stories about it?

What exactly kind of floodgate do you expect this thread to open? No charities will be allowed to solicit. I can recommend going on charityvillage.com to see which charities are legit or not and only picking ones with good ratings. Even if a few people end up picking a bad charity but we end up raising $40,000 for good charities again I don't see a problem.

Gildwulf 10-31-2007 11:37 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
In general I think it's wrong to be asking our members for money. If you want to talk about your good deeds, that's a little different as long as the money aspect of the equation is not part of it.

Best wishes,
Mason

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It's hard not to attach money value to it when the forum is called 'brags, beats and variance'.

And nobody would be asking anyone for money, it would be encouraging people to do something nice for someone over the holidays with no necessary monetary value required. If that's $1000 to a charity, great. If it's volunteering at a soup kitchen for $0, even better.

Mason Malmuth 10-31-2007 11:40 AM

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This is another example of precisely the sort of thing I don't think we should be doing. I'm very uncomfortable with asking our members for money, especially for political candidates.

By the way, and this is something I don't advertise, but there is a Mason Malmuth Foundation. It is a private charity I have set up and in which I privately give to. My accountant set it up in such a way that I can accept donations, which would be tax deductable for those who give. But it's not promoted in any way on these forums since I feel that asking our members for money is wrong.

Best wishes,
Mason

Berge20 10-31-2007 11:45 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
Hi Berge:

This is just the sort of thing that I'm very uncomfortable with and I do not believe we should allow on our site. I believe it is a mistake to allow any requests for money from our members even if the cause is good.

Best wishes,
Mason

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Gotcha

Gildwulf 11-15-2007 12:38 AM

Re: Charity Events (PPA involved)
 
bump for popular support for bbv holiday charity drive


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