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Andy B 09-09-2007 04:55 PM

Somewhat unusual stud/8 SnG hand
 
This is from a $6+.50 turbo Sit-n-Go which I somehow failed to win:

Tournament - 7 Card Stud High-Low - Level VIII (200/400), Ante 40, Bring-In 60 (converter)

Seat 1: 3,594
Hero: 4,403
Seat 4: 3,001
Seat 7: 1,002

3rd Street - (0.80 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___brings-in
Seat 4: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (1.40 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets
Hero: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls

5th Street - (1.70 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks
Hero: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks

6th Street - (1.70 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets
Hero: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls

River - (3.70 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] xx___bets
Hero: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls

Total pot: (5.70 BB)

Alchemist 09-09-2007 05:06 PM

Re: Somewhat unusual stud/8 SnG hand
 
6th sure looks like a fold to me with no money in the pot and no low draw.

Andy B 09-09-2007 05:21 PM

Re: Somewhat unusual stud/8 SnG hand
 
What do you put the other guy on?

adanthar 09-09-2007 05:26 PM

Re: Somewhat unusual stud/8 SnG hand
 
I don't know about sixth, but I'm sure as hell folding fourth.

Alchemist 09-09-2007 05:40 PM

Re: Somewhat unusual stud/8 SnG hand
 
[ QUOTE ]
What do you put the other guy on?

[/ QUOTE ]

Almost anything. I mean, who the hell limps with an Ace in the door vs. the BI? Your pair of 7s might well be good but I wouldn't really care to pay two more big bets to find out.

Andy B 09-09-2007 05:43 PM

Re: Somewhat unusual stud/8 SnG hand
 
I was pretty sure that my Sevens were winning on sixth.

Alchemist 09-09-2007 05:54 PM

Re: Somewhat unusual stud/8 SnG hand
 
Are you calling a bet on 5th street ?

Andy B 09-09-2007 06:10 PM

Re: Somewhat unusual stud/8 SnG hand
 
No.

PokerJans 09-09-2007 08:04 PM

Re: Somewhat unusual stud/8 SnG hand
 
4th street is just gross.

Bet 5th because you have the best hand and your opponent checked.

I know its the first day of the NFL season and all but have you really drank that much today?

JoeDimaggio 09-09-2007 11:18 PM

Re: Somewhat unusual stud/8 SnG hand
 
flush draw that got there on the river or he is bad enough to limp with an ace and randomly pair the jack what else would he possibly bet at that point / not bet up until that point

*TT* 09-10-2007 01:41 AM

Re: Somewhat unusual stud/8 SnG hand
 
andy - the pot is way too small to peel on 4th. Fold 6th, he has to many redraw outs to pair if he hasn't already and the pot is small.

bigredlemon 09-10-2007 03:22 AM

Re: Somewhat unusual stud/8 SnG hand
 
I'd play exactly the same on every street. Villain is trying to sell to you that he has a weak low hand on 3rd, and strong high hand on every other street. It just doesn't make sense. 95% of the time is a whiffed low that is trying to steal from the bring in. 5% of the time it's a strong hand hand suffering from fancy play syndrome.

I like the call on 4th because a big chunk of the time, villain will catch a big card on 5th, bet out, and fold to a raise regardless of what you're showing. He'll have no hand and no draw, and see that you must have had something when you called 4th, and now have something even better on 5th.

From a tournament perspective, I think winning this pot will put you in an excellent position to finish 1st, while losing this pot doesn't change your relative chances to cash by any significant margin give the stacks. (Winning = Big chip lead on the bubble with one small stack about to get busted = free chips from the middle stacks. Losing = same chip stack = play style remains the same and likelihood to bust on any given hand stays about the same.)

edit: after some thinking, i'm leaning towards folding 6th.


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