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Leader 07-31-2007 11:42 PM

***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
Announcements:

-Check out the new Limit--->NL forum.
-Those of you with Neteller moneys may wish to retrive them.
-The weather in Boston sucks. I want my San Diego beaches back. NOW DAMNIT!

Have fun (Don't do anything stupid)!

danzasmack 07-31-2007 11:43 PM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
lol first

sethypooh21 07-31-2007 11:44 PM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
Do any SSSHers live in the Seattle area? I'm going to be there this weekend, and wouldn't mind donking up some LLHE at Parker's Fri or Sat afternoon...

nickg1532 08-01-2007 12:00 AM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
oh great, another month in which i can run bad, hate poker, and want to kill myself

Tryptamean 08-01-2007 12:07 AM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
sethy, I'm from Bellingham.

Parker's is pretty sweet and they even get 20-40 going sometimes. I would go but I'll be out of town those days.

Scorcho 08-01-2007 02:17 AM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
My July graph, which I'm very proud of. First month that I've sat and really tried to focus harder on the game instead of bonus whoring everywhere and not really keeping track of stats and other players' tendencies. All at $1/2.

http://i14.tinypic.com/6g2xx5f.jpg

sethypooh21 08-01-2007 02:29 AM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
Congrats. Every digit you add to the monthly profit is very satisfying (having just had my first 5 figure month, I can certainly relate!). Keep it up!

sethypooh21 08-01-2007 02:30 AM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
[ QUOTE ]
sethy, I'm from Bellingham.

Parker's is pretty sweet and they even get 20-40 going sometimes. I would go but I'll be out of town those days.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm through seattle fairly often, so I'll drop you a line next time I go and have time...

thorleif 08-01-2007 02:39 AM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 


[ QUOTE ]
not really keeping track of stats and other players' tendencies.

[/ QUOTE ]

confused on your wording, elaborate

thorleif 08-01-2007 02:41 AM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
3.5k @ 1/2
4.1k @ 2/4
7.6k @ 3/6
1.3k @ 5/T



http://www.gondtc.com/~rickhbk/Jesse/JULlimit.jpg




I need help. [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Scorcho 08-01-2007 02:41 AM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
[ QUOTE ]


[ QUOTE ]
not really keeping track of stats and other players' tendencies.

[/ QUOTE ]

confused on your wording, elaborate

[/ QUOTE ]

Previously I didn't pay as much attention as I do now on PT stats, PAHUD stats, hand analysis, and just plain observation. Not sure how I was a marginally winning player before, but I was.

sethypooh21 08-01-2007 03:36 AM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
Wait, what?

PokerStars 15/30 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button calls, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, MP calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls, BB calls, MP calls, CO calls.

Flop: (20 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP calls, CO folds, Button calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (12 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP calls, Button calls, Hero calls.

River: (16 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, MP checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 16 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 2c Ac (two pair, threes and twos).
BB has Ad Kd (one pair, threes).
MP has 4d Ks (one pair, threes).
Button has 6c Tc (one pair, threes).
Outcome: Hero wins 16 BB. </font>

Heisenb3rg 08-01-2007 04:55 AM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
sick hand sethy.

Just to let you fools know Im going to be california dreamin , grinding at the commerce from the 8th to the 21st and in vegas from the 22nd to the 28th if anyone wants to meet up or play cards or soemthing.. send me a PM.

Oink 08-01-2007 05:25 AM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
Ship it AP! Finally reached 200k ARP points at AP.

[ QUOTE ]

Dear Mr. xxxx,

Thank you for contacting us.

Let us inform you that we have exchanged 200K RP's in your account for a total
of $3,000 as you requested. These funds are available in your account now; your
balance is $XXXXXX. Feel free to access the Cashier to verify this.

[/ QUOTE ]

sethypooh21 08-01-2007 06:02 AM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
So, 121 hand shot at the 15/30 tonight. Aces once, KK 3 times:

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/4979/hyachace9.jpg

1 for 4. Also:

PokerStars 15/30 Hold'em (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (5 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Ks 7h (two pair, kings and queens).
BB has 5c Qd (three of a kind, queens).
Outcome: BB wins 9 BB. </font>

PokerStars 15/30 Hold'em (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (8 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Td As (two pair, aces and sevens).
BB has 7h 8h (three of a kind, sevens).
Outcome: BB wins 12 BB. </font>

HYACHACHCHACHAHCHA

Gib 08-01-2007 06:26 AM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
What is up with villains turn play? I think it's pretty bad but is it common?

Full Tilt 5/10 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (5 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls.

River: (10.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has 4h Kh (flush, king high).
Hero has As Tc (two pair, aces and tens).
Outcome: SB wins 12.50 BB. </font>

mvoss 08-01-2007 07:30 AM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
Delaying semi-bluffs until the turn is getting more and more common IMO. I don't think this is a good spot for it, but I think sometimes it can be good.

Guy McSucker 08-01-2007 08:05 AM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
[ QUOTE ]

Delaying semi-bluffs until the turn is getting more and more common IMO.


[/ QUOTE ]

Hmmm I wonder why?

Gib 08-01-2007 08:08 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

Delaying semi-bluffs until the turn is getting more and more common IMO.


[/ QUOTE ]

Hmmm I wonder why?

[/ QUOTE ]
Hmmm, I haven't read this yet, i think i better!!

Blue Lagoon 08-01-2007 09:21 AM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
Poster for one year.

Beastmaster 08-01-2007 10:47 AM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
From Schneids: all you tags please leave my tables alone now and move over to NL

Quote:
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My question is, am I wasting my time trying to master LHE. Is it a dead end for building a good roll and moving up in stakes? Should I just focus my energy on NL which I am better at right now?


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If your primary poker goals are to make money and move up in stakes, I think your time is best spent in NL. If you put the me of three years ago in today's smallish stakes LHE games, I don't know if I'd have gotten to be able to build a large BR in LHE or not. I'm not ready to call it a dead end, but, NL is by all means the easier game to get wealthy in today.

Tryptamean 08-01-2007 12:21 PM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
July results are in. My best month ever by far.

The lesson: move up and run sick hot

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/6384/julygraphji4.jpg
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/222/julystatshp5.jpg

Tryptamean 08-01-2007 12:26 PM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
Just for fun, here is one of the last hands I played in July. Yeah, I know its fullring, but I'm going to post it here cuz I like you guys better.

I guess I missed a turn 3bet [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

PokerStars 15/30 Hold'em (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (12 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP2 calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (13.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, Hero calls.

River: (21.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Button folds, BB folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 23.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has As Ac (one pair, aces).
MP2 has Kd Ah (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins 23.50 BB. </font>

NinaWilliams 08-01-2007 12:33 PM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
How do they do it. Guy has tag stats too.

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, CO calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (8.5SB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, CO calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5.75BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (9.75BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 11.75BB
CO showed Qs Ad
Hero mucks 9s 9d

river should prob be a fold but w/e

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 2 folds, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8SB, 4 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, Button calls, SB folds.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5.5BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, Button calls.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (8.5BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, Hero calls, UTG folds.

Results:
Final pot: 13.5BB
Button Shows 9c Kh

Also why is every guy with TAG stats that I play against a [censored] spaztard idiot that puts in 26 bets with the worst hand and gets there every time and takes KQ UI to showdown 80% of the time. I 3 bet their sb opens from the BB 2 hands in a row and they still open with like T5o but it doesnt matter because they outflop me anyway. One guy check raised 3 players on a KQxT board with A4 to make me lose the max when my QJ missed like it always does. I dont think any player pisses me off as much as the bad TAG. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

Beastmaster 08-01-2007 12:41 PM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
nice Tryp-
All on Stars? what is your usual game 5/10?
what is your usual WR?

Scary_Tiger 08-01-2007 12:44 PM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
[ QUOTE ]
nice Tryp-
All on Stars? what is your usual game 5/10?
what is your usual WR?

[/ QUOTE ]

Lol those stats are sweet cause the winnings are all from like &lt;2k hands levels and he's played 16k breakeven at 10/20.

Sayfur 08-01-2007 12:53 PM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
nice Tryp-
All on Stars? what is your usual game 5/10?
what is your usual WR?

[/ QUOTE ]

Lol those stats are sweet cause the winnings are all from like &lt;2k hands levels and he's played 16k breakeven at 10/20.

[/ QUOTE ]wow owned, lol

danzasmack 08-01-2007 12:55 PM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
tryp u run like god vs. me

Tryptamean 08-01-2007 01:06 PM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
Yep, not denying I ran super hot.

Its all on Stars and my usual game is 10/20 and 5/10. I've played about 125k hands since April with a winrate of 1.1bb/100.

What is ur sn danza?

danzasmack 08-01-2007 01:27 PM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
[ QUOTE ]
What is ur sn danza?

[/ QUOTE ]

hothamsammich

Beastmaster 08-01-2007 01:31 PM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
Tiger-yeah I realize it is mostly 3k hands...still a nice piece of shot taking....reminds me of someone else (but maybe not the month of JUly)

danzasmack 08-01-2007 01:36 PM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
he still has a 1.84 bb/100 winrate

tryp i would just approach your 10/20 grind the same way you approach your shots. you KNOW you are more alert when playing the 15 or 30, you know you want to play better and make less mistakes because you want to win more at those stakes. i've had plenty of months/days/sessions like that where i'm way in the red in my "normal game" but up a bit because i saw a good seat 3 handed at a higher game.

Then you realize that you actually ARE thinking differently in the two games. i don't care if you say you aren't because you are. Whether it's stopping the sessions sooner or the complete opposite, i would wager dollars to donuts (chubby guy is hungry - that's me) that you don't play the same in both. Something is different.

read that like 4 times and then do it and then ship me the .8bb/100 i just made you (over your next 50-100k hands).

I'm prob the best coach ever

sethypooh21 08-01-2007 01:37 PM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
What is ur sn danza?

[/ QUOTE ]

hothamsammich

[/ QUOTE ]

Your avatar puts me into a mindbending rage for some reason. Just thought I'd let you know. Also, I'm still life tilted from last night's session - probably an alltime session high for unrealized Sklansky $ for me...

danzasmack 08-01-2007 01:38 PM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
seth did you just level me?

edit to call you seth.

Tryptamean 08-01-2007 01:47 PM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
[ QUOTE ]
he still has a 1.84 bb/100 winrate

tryp i would just approach your 10/20 grind the same way you approach your shots. you KNOW you are more alert when playing the 15 or 30, you know you want to play better and make less mistakes because you want to win more at those stakes. i've had plenty of months/days/sessions like that where i'm way in the red in my "normal game" but up a bit because i saw a good seat 3 handed at a higher game.

Then you realize that you actually ARE thinking differently in the two games. i don't care if you say you aren't because you are. Whether it's stopping the sessions sooner or the complete opposite, i would wager dollars to donuts (chubby guy is hungry - that's me) that you don't play the same in both. Something is different.

read that like 4 times and then do it and then ship me the .8bb/100 i just made you (over your next 50-100k hands).

I'm prob the best coach ever

[/ QUOTE ]

Agreed, that is good advice. I've actually tried to keep this in mind when I'm grinding, but it doesn't always happen.

sethypooh21 08-01-2007 01:48 PM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
No, I mean your 2p2 avatar drives me crazy. The second sentence is completely unrelated...

danzasmack 08-01-2007 01:53 PM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
lol i thought you meant my stars avatar. i was like "um, not me yo"

and that's odd a lot of people like this avatar! I've gotten multiple pai-gow dealers/pit bosses to replicate that dance with me.

sethypooh21 08-01-2007 01:55 PM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
Yeah, I still have no idea who you are on stars.

danzasmack 08-01-2007 01:55 PM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
me neither

Tryptamean 08-01-2007 02:10 PM

Re: ***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread August***
 
What is that dance from?


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