**Official uNL is this standard thread**
 

Im just doing it now. Here is the idea from another thread:



Here it goes,

its obvious that uNL and SSNL are the most frequented forums of 2+2. I myself find that I often dont post hands cause I think that the hand isnt interesting enough to make a new thread. Or for example, I get coolered and I just want to be really sure that it actually WAS a cooler and not bad play.

The more you play the more changes your style and your idea of the game. Things that were completely standard when you started playing are now big NO NOs and the other way round.

So especially with coolers, bad beats etc. Id find it helpful to be able to post them anyway. Even if all the responses will say "standard" and that is it.


So how about we have ONE thread where you post the hhs with a FEW comments and people may respond with

EITHER "standard/nh"
OR "discussion worthy"


rules would obviously be:

ABSOLUTELY no spam
ONLY post if you DISAGREE (so no need for 10x nh)


but that way we could have many many rather "uninteresting" hands in one thread and only those which are "discussionworthy" will be released in to the uNL forum (posted again, in its own thread).


Thanks to HRA146 for the idea. PM me for a title when you see this.

Re: **Official uNL is this standard thread**
 

Ill start,

no reads no stats

the line is weird cause I was actually mixing it up a little.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG ($30.30)
MP ($55.20)
CO ($60.50)
Button ($112.15)
Hero ($49.50)
BB ($74.60)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $1.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($4.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $3</font>, Hero calls $3.

Turn: ($10.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $24</font>, Hero calls $36.50 (All-In), CO calls $20.50.

River: ($99.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $99.50

ORIGINALLY POSTED BY HRA145

Re: **Official uNL is this standard thread**
 

Might as well get this [censored] started! Villain is 30/0/2.3 over a small sample.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($22.90)
UTG ($123.25)
MP ($49.50)
CO ($38.75)
Hero ($52)
SB ($50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, BB calls $3.

Turn: ($10.25) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $11</font>, BB calls $9.

River: ($32.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $32.25

ORIGINALLY POSTED BY WILDER0

Re: **Official uNL is this standard thread**
 

[ QUOTE ]

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

[/ QUOTE ]i think you got a bit carried away there with your bets. but i guess it's pretty standard to go overboard once in a while [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: **Official uNL is this standard thread**
 

People commenting on a hand will have to quote it every time which will kinda clutter the thread, just for one liner comments...

[ QUOTE ]
Ill start,

no reads no stats

the line is weird cause I was actually mixing it up a little.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG ($30.30)
MP ($55.20)
CO ($60.50)
Button ($112.15)
Hero ($49.50)
BB ($74.60)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $1.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($4.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $3</font>, Hero calls $3.

Turn: ($10.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $24</font>, Hero calls $36.50 (All-In), CO calls $20.50.

River: ($99.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $99.50

ORIGINALLY POSTED BY HRA145

[/ QUOTE ]

I'd be more than happy to play this for stacks on this turn.
The line taken is really weird though, and I don't really like it.

Re: **Official uNL is this standard thread**
 

Stop and go is really weird? Meh.

Re: **Official uNL is this standard thread**
 

[ QUOTE ]
People commenting on a hand will have to quote it every time which will kinda clutter the thread, just for one liner comments...

[/ QUOTE ]why not just quote the hand like i did above? i don't think there'll be so many same hole card hands at a time.

Re: **Official uNL is this standard thread**
 

Villian is 60/20/2

EverestPoker Game #1453051930: Table Doha-20 - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:19:14 - 2007/04/27
Seat 1: SB ($70.15)
Seat 2: BB ($36.08)
Seat 4: UTG ($43.40)
Seat 5: Hero ($50.67)
Seat 6: Button ($32.15)

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero (CO) [Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $1.50.

*** FLOP *** [4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
<font color="green">BB bets $0.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, BB calls $3.50.

*** TURN *** [4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] [3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
<font color="green">BB bets $0.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12.00</font>, BB calls $11.50.

*** RIVER *** [4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] [5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
BB checks, Hero checks.

Re: **Official uNL is this standard thread**
 

[ QUOTE ]
Hero is 60/20/2

EverestPoker Game #1453051930: Table Doha-20 - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:19:14 - 2007/04/27
Seat 1: SB ($70.15)
Seat 2: BB ($36.08)
Seat 4: UTG ($43.40)
Seat 5: Hero ($50.67)
Seat 6: Button ($32.15)

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero (CO) [Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $1.50.

*** FLOP *** [4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
<font color="green">BB bets $0.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, BB calls $3.50.

*** TURN *** [4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] [3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
<font color="green">BB bets $0.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12.00</font>, BB calls $11.50.

*** RIVER *** [4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] [5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
BB checks, Hero checks.

[/ QUOTE ]

fyp. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Re: **Official uNL is this standard thread**
 

[ QUOTE ]
Villian is 60/20/2

EverestPoker Game #1453051930: Table Doha-20 - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:19:14 - 2007/04/27
Seat 1: SB ($70.15)
Seat 2: BB ($36.08)
Seat 4: UTG ($43.40)
Seat 5: Hero ($50.67)
Seat 6: Button ($32.15)

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero (CO) [Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $1.50.

*** FLOP *** [4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
<font color="green">BB bets $0.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, BB calls $3.50.

*** TURN *** [4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] [3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
<font color="green">BB bets $0.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12.00</font>, BB calls $11.50.

*** RIVER *** [4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] [5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
BB checks, Hero checks.

[/ QUOTE ]


discussionworthy. def not standard. You are essentially bluffing a 60/20. 3 outs no good to pull this semibluff on this guy

Re: **Official uNL is this standard thread**
 

for a CO steal vs a loose BB I'd want at least Q7s. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: **Official uNL is this standard thread**
 

Second barrel is a spew, donk has a draw and he aint folding.

Re: **Official uNL is this standard thread**
 

Villian is 14/8.5 after 85 hands...Standard??

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $29.95
CO: $97.50
Button: $104.43
Hero: $108.55
BB: $109.15

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2.25</font>, BB calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($4.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $3</font>, BB calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($10.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $6.5</font>, Hero calls.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($23.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $14</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $14 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $23.5

Re: **Official uNL is this standard thread**
 

so what the point of this thread.. its for a whats my line? wasn't this MY idea in the ssnl post about making things better?

oh and bevil its unlikely he has a king there because not alot of kings are making that call from the BB so call

Re: **Official uNL is this standard thread**
 

my image was like 25/23/4 or somethin like that at the table and he had been such a nit plus fold to cbet was like 90+...

Re: **Official uNL is this standard thread**
 

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my image was like 25/23/4 or somethin like that at the table and he had been such a nit plus fold to cbet was like 90+...

[/ QUOTE ]

well this is a hugely valuable piece of information i thought it was largely unknown, give up on the turn

O.o look what i found from the original how to improve SSNL thread =D

[ QUOTE ]
Why dont we start threads for single hands, two threads, 100nl and 200nl, just for a "how's my line"

SSNL threads that are started hve to be about a complicated hand/multiple hands. We could also compile an FAQ of basic "how's my line hands" put it in the FAQ so ppl ask less questions and read more

[/ QUOTE ]

Re: **Official uNL is this standard thread**
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
my image was like 25/23/4 or somethin like that at the table and he had been such a nit plus fold to cbet was like 90+...

[/ QUOTE ]

well this is a hugely valuable piece of information i thought it was largely unknown, give up on the turn

O.o look what i found from the original how to improve SSNL thread =D

[ QUOTE ]
Why dont we start threads for single hands, two threads, 100nl and 200nl, just for a "how's my line"

SSNL threads that are started hve to be about a complicated hand/multiple hands. We could also compile an FAQ of basic "how's my line hands" put it in the FAQ so ppl ask less questions and read more

[/ QUOTE ]

[/ QUOTE ]


okay, its not like I knew you said something like that and/or stole that idea to make myself look good in uNL.

The point of this thread is a little different though, its supposed to be a continuous one for hands that appear super standard, but people still like feedback. So if its really standard we move on, and if its not then people post it again in the forum.


(Have you read the OP?)


edit: sorry, I see you have.. you only had that in addition.

well, yes. good.

Re: **Official uNL is this standard thread**
 

Villain was 47/26 with a flop aggression of 11 and a WTSD of 40% after about 50 hands.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero ($11.90)</font>
UTG ($8.95)
MP ($4.60)
CO ($9.70)
<font color="#C00000">Button ($17.10)</font>
SB ($15.05)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $0.4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.6</font>, MP folds, Button calls $1.20.

Flop: ($3.35) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $3.2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10.3</font>, Button calls $7.10.

Turn: ($23.95) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($23.95) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $23.95

Re: **Official uNL is this standard thread**
 

standard, nh (or not)

Re: **Official uNL is this standard thread**
 

hra... WEEEE this was ur idea? wp!

Re: **Official uNL is this standard thread**
 

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $6.10
BB: $58.25
UTG: $22.35
MP: $26.95
<u>Hero (CO): $38.75</u>
<u>BTN: $23.30</u>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1</font>, BTN calls $1, 2 folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($2.35) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $1.50</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $5</font>, Hero calls $3.50

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($12.35) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

<font color="black">River:</font> ($12.35) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

I think its pretty standard just curious if a bet somewhere would ship me the pot

Edit: Another standard hand (i guess)

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $22.90
<u>BB: $3.25</u>
<u>UTG: $13.05</u>
<u>Hero (BTN): $25</u>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $0.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises all-in to $3.25</font>, UTG calls $2.75, Hero calls $1.50

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($9.85) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 All-In)
<font color="red">UTG bets all-in for $9.80</font>, Hero calls $9.80

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($29.45) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players - 2 All-In)

<font color="black">River:</font> ($29.45) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players - 2 All-In)

Re: **Official uNL is this standard thread**
 

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button ($40.15)
Hero ($25.35)
BB ($11.40)
UTG ($12.60)
MP ($31.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif.
UTG calls $0.25, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.25, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $1.1</font>, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>, UTG calls $0.75, Button calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3.35) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>
Hero checks, [color=#CC3333]UTG bets $2</font>, Button folds, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $5.75</font>, [color=#CC3333]UTG raises to $13.6 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $5.85.

Turn: ($28.55) Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif [color=#0000FF](2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($28.55) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif [color=#0000FF](2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $28.55

Re: **Official uNL is this standard thread**
 

NYY=Hero
BRS=Villain

NYY is dealt AA. 100000BB stacks

NYY leads for 4BB, BRS raise to 16BB, NYY raise to 40BB, BRS push, NYY class and the red sux hit A K. KKK&gt;AA, LUCKBOXES!!!!

Re: **Official uNL is this standard thread**
 

Nice one EMc &amp; hra, this should hopefully reduce the clutter of standard hands in uNL.

@Sean F - Cbet more on that flop, it is way too drawy, I would make it $3.

Re: **Official uNL is this standard thread**
 

poto ridiculouso

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($91.55)
BB ($59.40)
UTG ($11.25)
MP ($37)
CO ($25.35)
Button ($12.60)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $91.55</font>, BB calls $59.15 (All-In), UTG folds.

Flop: ($151.95) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: ($151.95) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($151.95) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $151.95

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Kh Kc (two pair, kings and queens).
BB has Th Ts (two pair, queens and tens).
Outcome: Hero wins $151.95. </font>

Re: **Official uNL is this standard thread**
 

Villain TAG 20/12 type but has been pretty aggro last few orbits.

Thanks.

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">BB ($49.50)</font>
UTG ($50.88)
MP ($139.48)
CO ($48.50)
Button ($58.05)
Hero ($47.90)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, BB calls $2, UTG folds.

Flop: ($5.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $11.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $21</font>, BB calls $35.50 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $73.50

Re: **Official uNL is this standard thread**
 

[ QUOTE ]
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $11.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $21</font>, BB calls $35.50 (All-In), Hero folds.

[/ QUOTE ]

That's not a very good line.. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

What did you expect to accomplish by minraising? When he pushes you must call. I would have folded to the first raise.

Re: **Official uNL is this standard thread**
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $11.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $21</font>, BB calls $35.50 (All-In), Hero folds.

[/ QUOTE ]

That's not a very good line.. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

What did you expect to accomplish by minraising? When he pushes you must call. I would have folded to the first raise.

[/ QUOTE ]


lol, yeah it looks grim actually.

It's just that I've become paranoid recently that every flop raise is just a test of my cbet, especially on boards that clearly will have missed a lot of my range.

This has led me to start c/r whiffed flops and cb/3betting a lot of them too (as opposed to just cbetting). But this was just obviously the wrong spot to try this, although I have noticed a lot of people taking on cbets at 50NL in a way that used not happen so I'm still gonna try to take on villains I think are being cheeky.

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Villain unknown.

Would a proper flop 3b to $18 have made any difference? I consider this is probably a slightly ahead/WB situation, so while I want some value, I don't want to pot commit. Also,as there aren't draws I'm willing to spend half a stack protecting against, I made a smaller flop 3b.

Clueless here lol.


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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Hero ($50)
<font color="#C00000">CO ($70.40)</font>
Button ($56.55)
SB ($89.65)
BB ($50)
UTG ($20.85)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, CO calls $2, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($4.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $6.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $13</font>, CO calls $6.50.

Turn: ($30.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $15</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $45.75

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Ninja bump for the Standard thread! Yay! I think this thread is a great idea.

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Standard double barrell?

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Hero ($51.18)
MP ($15.99)
CO ($57.90)
Button ($53.90)
SB ($62.21)
<font color="#C00000">BB ($62.24)</font>

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, BB calls $3.

Turn: ($10.25) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $16</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $34.25

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Double barrels are always villain dependent but this is a good spot to try one out. Maybe pot it though given flop texture.

Standard.

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standard imho. you take it down alot on that turn

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the cbet is meh, the turn bet in general is spew. but if you're going to do that, at least make it 6.50 or 7

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i think this is a good board for a double barrel, it seems that not many people float the flop with a king and often they will give you credit for one

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i think this is a good board for a double barrel, it seems that not many people float the flop with a king and often they will give you credit for one

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HIS CALLING RANGE ON THE FLOP IS 22-TT/45s/65s/34s/flush draws

tell me exactly what part of that range folds even if they KNOW Hero has AK/KQ even 50% of the time

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If villain is a TAG with a fold button then I like the second barrel but 0evg0 I think that your logic prevails against the majority of 50NLers. I think betting a bit more gets more FE against that range, but an unknown isn't folding anything but like 77-88 in that range to a 2/3 pot bet.

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not exactly the same, but close enough (drawy flop, i fire again on turn)


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($49.50)
BB ($72.20)
UTG ($56.75)
MP ($43.75)
CO ($15.25)
Hero ($95.45)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.25) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, BB calls $3.

Turn: ($10.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6.25</font>, BB folds.

Final Pot: $16.50


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($149.10)
BB ($33.45)
Hero ($48.50)
MP ($136.80)
CO ($25.20)
Button ($19.85)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, BB calls $3.

Turn: ($10.25) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6.25</font>, BB folds.

Final Pot: $16.50

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($164.05)
Hero ($130.35)
Button ($13.10)
SB ($24.95)
BB ($74.60)
UTG ($39.15)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $1.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($4.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, SB calls $3.

Turn: ($10.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6.5</font>, SB folds.

Final Pot: $17

and so on

of course there were a few where they continued to the river

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all 3 are perfectly standard except i make the turn bets 7.50/8 because of texture

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yeah i need to change my AHK script setting. i think i have it at 2/3 pot for right click.

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yeah i need to change my AHK script setting. i think i have it at 2/3 pot for right click.

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standard stars slider ftw