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Kurtis21 09-15-2007 04:10 AM

Stats for my first 10K hands
 

Hello everyone. Below are stats for my first 1o,ooo hands. They were all played at the .5/1.00 full ring games at PokerStars. Please let me know if there are any obvious holes that need patching up. Thanks.
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c1.../Stats_10K.jpg

I'm also new to PokerTracker so if there are some other stats I should be providing, let me know. Thanks.

StrictlyStrategy 09-15-2007 04:20 AM

Re: Stats for my first 10K hands
 
14/5/1

Raise like 250% more preflop and valuebet more.

Pretty solid winrate for a nit though, nice work.(I mean that)

bernie 09-15-2007 04:34 AM

Re: Stats for my first 10K hands
 
10k really isn't much to base anything on.

That said, pretty tight preflop. Hardly raise preflop?

You should be more aggressive on the flop than the turn. The agg factor tends to decline the further into the hand.

But for starters, I'd study preflop play. That's the most glaring.

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Kurtis21 09-15-2007 04:36 AM

Re: Stats for my first 10K hands
 
My pfr% should be around 12?

StrictlyStrategy 09-15-2007 04:52 AM

Re: Stats for my first 10K hands
 
If you're playing 13.78% of your hands you should probably never be limping except in your SB.

Ever.

HoneyBadger 09-15-2007 05:49 AM

Re: Stats for my first 10K hands
 
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My pfr% should be around 12?

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Yeah. Something like 17/12/2.5 is ok for full ring.

HoneyBadger 09-15-2007 06:05 AM

Re: Stats for my first 10K hands
 
Your aggression is 2.4/3.3/2.6 for flop/turn/river. Your turn AF is higher than flop, which is strange. Also, your river AF is too high. You appear to play fit/fold on the turn, and c/r it a bit too often. Change some of that turn aggression to flop aggression and it's perfect.

The most glaring leak is your PFR.

Kurtis21 09-15-2007 10:23 AM

Re: Stats for my first 10K hands
 
very enlightening. thanks very much!

Kurtis21 09-15-2007 10:29 AM

Re: Stats for my first 10K hands
 
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14/5/1

Raise like 250% more preflop and valuebet more.


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Sorry, I'm still very new to PokerTracker. What specifically in the stats tells you I'm not value betting enough?

Thanks.

James. 09-15-2007 10:46 AM

Re: Stats for my first 10K hands
 
work on loosening up when you are in position(late position like the Hijack, Cutoff, and Button). this is where you want to add hands, not in early position.

you definitely need to raise more pf. you are most certaily passing up some preflop equity edges by not doing so. it also widens your pf raising range which makes it tougher for your opponents to read your hands postflop.

as for your postflop AF, generally speaking it should peak on the flop and gradually decrease on the turn and river. you should be jamming good made hands and draws on the flop. by the river, all the cards are out so a different strategy is often necessary based on your opponent and the board texture.

you are folding your blinds too much. 63% means someone can raise any two cards on you and show immediate profit. a good rule of thumb is if your hand shows 35% equity against the late position preflop stealer you should at least be calling. based on other stats, i would imagine you need to be 3betting a ton more as well. this is more important as your postflop game develops, so focusing on calling and seeing a flop is probably going to be a good starting point(at least better than folding).

GrindingIt 09-15-2007 12:03 PM

Re: Stats for my first 10K hands
 
You're so tight preflop that your other stats will be totally off. So other than playing at least double the hands and raising 3 times as much it's impossible to say.

Ricks 09-15-2007 01:54 PM

Re: Stats for my first 10K hands
 
Your attempt to steal blinds is too low. When this rises it is most likely your VP$IP will also rise along with your PFR%. You are most likely folding hands in late position that are good enough to open/raise with.

DosXX 09-15-2007 03:16 PM

Re: Stats for my first 10K hands
 
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Your attempt to steal blinds is too low. When this rises it is most likely your VP$IP will also rise along with your PFR%. You are most likely folding hands in late position that are good enough to open/raise with.

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+1

Kurtis21 09-16-2007 09:44 AM

Re: Stats for my first 10K hands
 
awesome feedback guys.

I had a feeling I wasn't trying to steal enough. Is my blind defense in the ballpark?

RatFink 09-16-2007 09:59 AM

Re: Stats for my first 10K hands
 
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Is my blind defense in the ballpark?

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No, I would seek you out to sit on my left.

Things that work to my advantage would be:
- You will fold a lot preflop, allowing me to open very wide.
- Your PFR means you will rarely 3bet me PF to punish me for my greed
- When you do call, you will fold a lot of flops.
- When you show aggression it will be fairly straightforward to understand where you are.

When you increase your VPIP by adding hands in later positions, and by defending a bit more, then your game becomes harder to play against. It'll be a requirement as you move up.

Kurtis21 09-16-2007 10:19 AM

Re: Stats for my first 10K hands
 
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Is my blind defense in the ballpark?

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Things that work to my advantage would be:
- You will fold a lot preflop, allowing me to open very wide.
- Your PFR means you will rarely 3bet me PF to punish me for my greed
- When you do call, you will fold a lot of flops.
- When you show aggression it will be fairly straightforward to understand where you are.



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You read me like a book. I've only very recently started 3betting late position raisers.

This feedback is both exciting and humbling at the same time.

A bit off topic but how is the 1/2 game compared to the .5/1? My bankroll warrants the move but based on what everyone has said perhaps I should patch some leaks before moving up?

RatFink 09-16-2007 02:58 PM

Re: Stats for my first 10K hands
 
The read isn't on you, it's on your stats. They can be changed.

As for .50/1.00 -> 1/2 I rarely play at Stars so can't provide insight into that. Usually you'll see a little less cold calling, and a little more preflop raising between those two levels. But as I said, don't have firsthand experience of what they play like now.

Another way to bump vpip and pfr is 3betting later position aggressive raisers when you have position. It's easier to get comfortable playing from the button then the big blind, and then you increase your abilities from the blind. Playing some heads up (at a level where you wont get killed by the rake), is also another way to learn how to get comfortable that you can play more hands but not turn into a crazy - raise the turn with nothing spew monkey

z0s01 09-16-2007 03:13 PM

Re: Stats for my first 10K hands
 
You can play nitty and win at 1/2 and 2/4 on Stars...I have. I've been working on the exact things mentioned to you in this thread but doing at the lower stakes levels and I haven't had much luck with it so far...but I'm trying.

Kurtis21 09-17-2007 12:25 AM

Re: Stats for my first 10K hands
 
I'll give 1/2 a shot and try and patch these leaks as I go. If things head south I can always move back down...


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